Thursday, 9th September 2010

News from the Guernsey Press

Shell Beach could become party venue

0617059.jpgBEACH parties and lunch on the White House Hotel lawn could all be on the cards in Herm this summer.

Recently-appointed hospitality director Jonathan Watson is looking at new incentives to bring people to the island.

He arrived in Herm with his family in July 2002 to manage the hotel.

In August 2006, he was appointed general manager of both the hotel and the Mermaid Tavern, employing a manager to run the pub. When John and Julia Singer took over the island’s lease on 1 October, a board meeting was held and Mr Watson was one of three directors appointed.

‘It’s very exciting, but there is so much to do,’ said Mr Watson.

On the agenda are parties on Shell Beach – but plans are still at the preliminary stage because liquor licences would have to be approved. For a couple of weeks either side of the longest day – 21 June – beach parties could be held in a fenced-off area of the beach operating as an alternative to the Captain’s Table service.

There are also plans for an alfresco formal dining area with 30 covers on the lawn in front of the White House.

Article posted on 5th February, 2009 - 1.00pm

Reader Offers
Liberation Supplements 1Halftime
iTEX - Making IT easy - 468

62 Article Comments

  1. Mrs Marquis

    I have just read on your website the section about Herm Island with regarding to the beach party on shell beach.

    If Herm do go ahead and do this I feel this could upset the area of the beach. I feel that this is not a way of getting people over to the Island.

    Have people thought about the litter, Glass Bottles broken or left lying about. Barbeques, what about drugs! There are so much that could be left lying about on the beach. Will there be security on the boats if people are coming back drunk from the parties. Young adults tend to go for the drink and sun which as we all know is not a great combination. Also the cost of clearing up after the pary. Who is paying for it?

    I know with friends my age, mid twentys and younger this would be a place for them to enjoy sun and also get wasted. Which is what you don’t want them to think! You want them to enjoy the environment and island around them.

    We have other ways of bringing people over to the island and i don’t think this is one of them.

    Report abuse

  2. anita zabiela

    I am dismayed to learn of the suggestion for beach parties and whould have hoped that the uniqueness of Herm and the conservation of the habitat and the wildlife and marine life would have been a priority for this little gem in the sea (a title which is usually reserved for Guernsey).
    I appreciate greatly the importance of the Island finding ways to finance itself and to remain attrractive to all ages etc but surely ther are other methods and events.

    How controlled or organised are this to be? I though the new people weren’t going to change the essence of the isle?

    Guernsey has a history as has Jersey of the negatives, which outway the presumed positives of holding such parties.

    Litter, heavy wear and tear and tear on the beach areas and sand dunes, risk of needles from social drugs, glass, etc.

    I have attended such parties in Guernsey organised and private, so have experienced such parties.

    I have also attended wedding dances on the common in past years which was better supervised by staff. This offers a age mix/social mix which may naturally have a different atmosphere.

    Also what about increased or new security on the boat for drunken behaviour (it does happen).

    Cant Herm look for other revenue streams? Other creative ideas.

    How about two centre holidays, I for one wanted to do Sark and Herm together – tap this area, you may get new business?

    Shoulder month occupancy – corporate outward bound events.

    Review pricing of food at Captains table, look for corporate functions to come over.
    Look at what D Coates is doing with Alderney or can you link with hime for some two centre trips?
    I look forward to staying this year in the lovely isle.

    Anita aged 48.

    Report abuse

  3. Anon 2

    I fully agree. You just have to look at last summer to see how “beach parties” can get out of hand.

    If such events are planned they should be done tastefully, with an emphasis on families and not getting drunk, which could easily be the perception if not done properly.

    Herm is a fantastic and safe island for all to enjoy and it should not have a dark and dismal “party island” cloud hanging over it.

    Report abuse

  4. andrew boyd

    I was amazed about the idea to run beach parties on beautiful shell beach.
    Myself and my family adore the Island and would really hate to see this idea approved.
    I can understand the idea of making more use of the White House Hotel but please leave Shell beach in its natural and unspoilt beauty.
    I show pictures of shell beach to freinds and family and they all comment by saying “im so pleased they havent spoilt the island ”

    The island is my favourite place in the world and I count the days until I return.

    Report abuse

  5. Fay Thompson

    As regular visitors to Herm in Spring, Summer and Winter I read with a sense of impending doom about the possibility of holding parties on Shell Beach. The attraction to Herm for my partner and me – and undoubtedly for many regular visitors – is the pure unspoilt breathtaking beauty of the place along with the ability to view the amazing wildlife. By fencing areas off, increasing noise levels and no doubt the pollution that goes with a party, the very nature of what attracts people will be destroyed. You may encourage newcomers who like the party scene, but you will discourage people who appreciate the Island for its natural values. There are very few accessible places like Herm – please think again before you make it too commercialised.

    Report abuse

  6. Malcolm Barnes

    BEACH parties… ahhh White Russians, Sex On The Beach, Bob Marleys and A Farmers Daughters – but that’s enough of my love life and last summer – lets all embrace the Herm Party scene. Anybody for a Shell Beach margarita?!

    Report abuse

  7. GsyGal

    Sounds good. In regards to glass bottles. Its easily avoided. No drinks etc to be taken in. All have to be bought on site, so you either get plastic bottles like music festivals, or put it in a cup. Obviously, i expect a small fee would be paid ‘on the door’ which would cover security and the clean up. And there are always loads of drunks on the last boat back in the summer anyway, I assume this would be till the early hours, so a hotel/tent would be needed so the hungover can go back on the morning boat.

    Report abuse

  8. Malcolm Barnes

    This one be a grand idea me heartys… how about anchoring a galleon, (an old, old wooden ship), off Belvoir Bay (like they do in the Caribbean at Deep Water Bay) and promote Pirate Parties aboard the Jolly Roger! Come on me lily-livered locals lets share and shake the booty!

    Report abuse

  9. Paul Le P

    Al fresco dining at the White House seems like a great idea in the Summer.
    As for the beach party idea, I don’t think we should jump to conclusions until more details about the proposed format are given, as well as clientele they would be targetting. If these parties are geared towards those who simply want to ingest as much alcohol as possible in the time given, it raises concerns. This isn’t just young adults either by the way – I’ve seem plenty adults in the 30s, 40s and even older at office parties who are equally, if not more drunk than the 18-30 crowd….and we wonder why so many young people have an irresponsible attitude to alcohol!
    Although I’m not a great fan of Herm, I do hope the management consider carefully what they decide, as the idyllic peace of Herm is a magnet for the tourist industry, not to mention those islanders who are after a quiet, cheap break. It all depends on where their priorities are I suppose. If they’re just after profit, don’t be surprised to see alcohol high on the agenda as encouraging excessive drinking, though not particularly pleasant or imaginative, has always been a quick and easy money spinner.

    Report abuse

  10. CD

    Malcolm, much as I would love to shake my withered booty at a Shell Beach party (which, at my age would doubtless result in a call-out for the Flying Christine), I just don’t think this is the right venue.

    Plastic glasses and clean-up plans are all very well but – be honest – the place is going to get trashed (look at the aftermath of a Glastonbury festival if you don’t believe me).

    The common land adjoining the beach is home to some amazing and rare plant and animal species and no amount of fencing is going to stop drunk and/or spaced-out party goers from tramping all over it.

    I bet you and GsyGal and every other person young enough to want to go to this beach party would claim to be sympathetic to the environment. If so then I would urge you to prove your eco-credentials and find another venue because Shell Beach really needs protecting.

    I am all for the new hospitality director’s plans to make Herm profitable (and hugely grateful that the lease wasn’t sold to a hotel chain) – but how about using agicultural land for the gig rather than this vulnerable habitat?

    Report abuse

  11. Malcolm Barnes

    Paul Le P, OAP more like it! Let the young enjoy good living and a little bit of fun my man. Time for you to take your afternoon nap I believe!

    Report abuse

  12. Malcolm Barnes

    CD – I agree with you 100% and echo your sentiment about the environment. Indeed I’ve spent many hours speaking wih my kids and many children from all over the world talking about these so called, ‘Global Warmings’ and how we as a people can help make the earth that little bit warmer. We are a small island but we can leave a massive footprint on this earth, (and more importantly on Shell Beach), if we all just pull in the same direction. As a much wiser man than I once put it,’you can take a horse to water, but you can’t climb a ladder with a bell under each arm’.

    Report abuse

  13. Vee

    Oh my god, what a bunch of typical boring old no bodies! You all moan about the youth, teenagers, pub goers, that you want them off your perfect streets, you want them removed, out of site! get a life! look at Thialand who is famous for its full moon parties and beach parties! i say hell yeah! i’m 25 and id love to go to a beach party in herm, not being funny but shell beach isnt exactly great to relax on, you kill your feet on that place, so lets get the party started i say! Its a nice large area, its not facing Guernsey,so you wont hear the “noise” so what’s the problem?! The problem is, you lot want the youth out of site, out of mind so you dont have to complain about them, well here’s your chance eh! but then again what would you all moan about?! I wouldnt expect all you moaning oldies to even begin to understand what the youth of today want, and clearly you just dont want to understand!

    Report abuse

  14. Expat80

    Herm is a beautiful gem of an island that we have all loved for countless years and as such must never never have the envisioned ‘parties’ on Shell Beach or on any other island beach because we all know what comes with such parties and the answer is a big NO!

    In fact, I’m wondering whether or not Herm Island has been leased to the wrong tenants and whether or not our States representatives included safegaurds for the island in the lease contract???

    Report abuse

  15. C.Elliott

    OH no! Herm is perfect as it is. Please don’t ruin it for those of us who love it-or for future generations.

    Report abuse

  16. Shell

    Stop being such doomsayers. The Mermaid did the first beach functions last year with no problems whatsoever.These aren’t just booze ups – these are organised functions with excellent staff to clean up later. Besides, the summer staff have beach parties all throught the year and no-one ever complains about that. Will everyone stop putting such a downer on Herm. Times change – deal with it!

    Report abuse

  17. Shell

    And why did no-one complain like this about the beach parties last year? Because it was cleaned up properly and none of you even knew about it when you were sunbathing on clean white sand the next day!

    Report abuse

  18. Student Bob

    You’re all missing a trick… If the parties are to be held in a fenced off area, why not position this on the waterline at low tide? Six hours later the litter is on its way to Jersey and we’ll have removed that segment of community typically responsible for vandalism and drink-related violence?

    Why, we could all have a whip around to have the Deputies Summer Ball there too!!

    Report abuse

  19. Paul Le P

    Malcolm Barnes, if I may borrow some of your poetic talent for a moment:
    Paul Le P…he’s not an OAP…but 33, actually….
    Perhaps check the facts before making assumptions my man…but an afternoon nap sounds like a good plan… :-)

    I like fun and good living too but I guess it depends on your definition. I remember not that long ago enjoying the “good living” you refer to…if memory serves (which admittedly got rather cloudy at times….another “benefit”) it consisted of drinking so much that you lost your mind, made a complete fool of yourself, threw up then woke up the next morning with nothing more than an aching head and an empty wallet.
    If you call that “good living” then I guess our definitions differ somewhat!

    Report abuse

  20. Timo

    Oh no…. commercial beach parties on Shell. I cannot think of a quicker way to detract from Herm’s uniqueness. Island staff go to great lengths to weed out the type of folk who may upset the balance; on the boat, at the campsite, in the pub and so on… now they want ot ferry them in by the boat load?

    Herm is a business, indeed, and ideas need to be thrown around. The greatest test for the new management team will be to make the correct decision – I am confident that with closer scrutiny, this particular idea will be safely filed away.

    Such a small island cannot be all things to everybody – it already has a unique identity. There may be some short-term gain in catering to the young ravers, but at what cost?

    Report abuse

  21. GsyGal

    Maybe a different beach to preserve the common land around shell beach? As not all the beaches are surrounded by the common.

    Report abuse

  22. Paul Le P

    Vee, we don’t all want the youth out of sight and out of mind. Incidentally, if you are 25 you are no longer a youth but an adult! :-) To oppose drunkenness is not to be anti-youth but anti-drunkenness. To oppose anti-social behaviour is not to be anti-youth but anti-antisocial behavour. To oppose drug abuse is not to be anti-youth but anti-drug abuse. I think you get the point.

    Sadly however your reaction (and that of others here) is typical of the prevailing cultural attitude that seeks to build schisms between the young and old. It doesn’t have to be that much older either – I’m 33 and when I walk past groups of teenage lads, I often say “alright mate” to which although I will often get a response, it is clear by their body language that they are surprised to be addressed by an adult and also suspicious. The same fear also exists from the older side, where young people are treated with suspicion and fear.

    There is a growing mutual distrust between the generations fuelled by popular culture and it takes effort to bridge it. That doesn’t mean pandering though from both sides. I don’t expect young people to act like pensioners any more than I expect pensioners to act like young people. They are different yet both have much to offer, they are also stronger together than apart.

    As to the subject in hand I’m not against beach parties (though whether Herm is the right environment for it is debateable for a number of reasons) per se, or drinking for that matter. In fact, a beach party, properly organised and open to all ages would be good fun for all. It could have a mix of music that appeals to both the young and old and people could enjoy a few beers without getting totally bladdered. It might sound like a fools utopia but it can be done – it just takes a bit of effort.

    Report abuse

  23. pam b

    I remember when the new tenant of Herm took over from the Heyworth’s it was emphasised that ‘there would be no changes to the island’ – what happened to that statement!!!How will such a large amount of people be ferried over to Shell!! I have been visiting Herm for over 30yrs & thankfully I do not stay there in the dates suggested for the beach parties, imagine if you had paid lots of money (which you have to to stay on Herm) & then have to put up with that of an evening.

    I take note that there have been beach parties there before but not over that side of the island as we all know it is quite a trek to Shell beach even when sober.

    I can understand Mr Watson looking for ideas to bring young people to the island but I do think he needs to put his sensible hat on!!!!

    Report abuse

  24. Russ

    Nice idea Student Bob, except the tidal flow when the tide is on its low cycle would take the rubbish towards the Lower Heads rather than in Jersey’s direction.

    Back on the topic in hand, I think it is worth trialing at least rather than dismissing the idea totally. The staff who look after Herm do a great job of keeping it in top nick and would no doubt take extra care if serving up the option of a designated beach party area.

    My environmental bugbear with Herm are the majority (not all) of the jet bikers. But that’s going off topic again.

    Report abuse

  25. Malcolm Barnes

    Just out of curiosity when was the last time anybody found a shell on ‘Shell’ beach?! I remember when I first arrived on this island some 25 years ago that all Guernsey people visiting Herm used to collect shells in there thousands, from this very beach, and take them back home to Guernsey by the bucket load. I myself have a substantial rockery of shell, as does most of my family, made entirely from shells from Shell beach. Surely our generation that indulged in this long term shell extraction have had far more impact on the environment than a few people getting together for a series of friendly gatherings?!

    Report abuse

  26. Bridge

    I think everyone should stop predicting doom and gloom. If properly managed, the idea of beach parties on Herm is a good one. At the end of the day, these people are trying to run a business and it’s not as if they are proposing to build skyscrapers or a massive entertainment complex on Herm. The clutter of a beach party is easily erased if attended to properly. My only concern would be the potential disturbance to those staying there on holiday – if I had spent my hard earned cash on one of the (not inexpensive) holiday cottages on Herm, I would want the assurance of peace and quiet. I can see this would be problematic if the wind was in the wrong direction.

    Report abuse

  27. Vee

    Paul LeP: I never called myself a youth! I said older people have no idea what the youth want today! Therefore i am saying, look at Thailand (where half my age group are at the moment) and younger, they love the beach parties, Ibiza great for beach parties, why not Herm! Who said there will be drug use, there will be fights, there will be drunkeness?! who knows until you try?! I can bet my life there are people your age in Thailand, UK, GUERNSEY, that are doing drugs, people need to understand that its not just kids! I know that if a beach party was to go ahead and it was run properly (say by the people who run the Vale Earth Fair) then there wouldnt be a problem. Why are typical Guernsey people so against trying new things? I 100% understand that people love herm, i’m one of them but why not try something to improve it for nightlife?! If it didnt work out, then people like yourself can wear a big smile and say i told you so! but let them try?!

    Report abuse

  28. Cian Thomas

    Please rethink this plan as it will destroy the tranquility of the Island for visitors and will drive away gannets, geese, waders and seals.

    Report abuse

  29. Jackie

    About time beach parties were brought back. Thankfully somewhere we can enjoy the evenings without the fun gestapo getting in the way.

    Imagine that in Guernsey? Police, douzaine, residents………

    ….good luck to Herm. I’m sure it will be a blast!

    Report abuse

  30. Shell

    Last year parties took place in the summer BEFORE the new management took over. And yes, they were ALL on Shell Beach. It is impossible for noise to travel to any of the areas where guests stay, and guests are rarely down at the beaches after 7pm anyway.

    Report abuse

  31. Malcolm Barnes

    Are the rumours true that the Mermaid will be turned into a disco on Fridays & Saturdays during the summer months. I think this is an excellent idea – as my late dad used to say, what is the summer without wet t-shirts, thongs and a spot of evening pole dancing – god rest his soul.

    Report abuse

  32. Malcolm Barnes

    Wouldn’t it be lovely to have themed evenings such as Caribbean night with an authentic steel band, a rum punch pool, a large bbq with all the trimmings , fire dancers – a great way to experience a different culture and enjoy the outdoors with friends and family alike.

    Report abuse

  33. Paul Le P

    Vee: accept your first point about you calling yourself a youth, I withdraw my comment with an apology.

    As for the rest of your rather bombastic response to my post, I can only assume that you neither read that post in its entirety or my previous post on this thread, as you are aggressively defending points I actually made!

    “People need to understand that it’s not just kids” – good point and one I made in an earlier post in regard to drunkenness.

    “I know that if a beach party was to go ahead and it was run properly….then there wouldnt be a problem.” – I made the same point in my post.

    As my final word on this subject: contrary to your concluding assertion, I would have no desire whatsoever to put my self-righteous hat on if something went wrong. What possible good would that do? So kindly don’t make character assumptions about someone you probably don’t even know.

    Report abuse

  34. Matti

    Masses of young people and alcohol do not bode well for Shell Beach -you only have to take a look at Cobo beach in the summer after some party or barbeque, broken glass and rubbish everywhere. Herm has always been attractive for its tranquillity and ‘Shell’, yes, times do indeed change, but that’s the very attraction of Herm , the fact that it DOESN’T change with the times but remains peaceful and quaint, and people will travel a long way to try and find that sort of holiday.

    Report abuse

  35. Guern abroad

    Want is a personal statement about now and my lifetime.

    I too am concerned for Herm, not about beach parties, yes they would be fun if well managed etc.
    But how do you protect the fragile existence of the northern land of Herm. The dunes are very fragile.
    Lots of people partying on the beach are going to wonder around, who recalls sneeking off to bedrooms at house parties, sneeking off to the dunes/heath is no different.

    It is not about being selfish and saying no, it is about thinking outside of personal wants and consider what is best to preserve the habitat on Herm for us now and for future people.
    It could be done if there was no booze, it may be possible to have a party and not risk the island.

    There was a time when parties were for a celebration, now it is just an excuse to get plastered, like most things being ’special’ has lost it’s shine and has become normal to have.
    The bar just gets higher and higher, is it because limbo dancing is too hard….

    Report abuse

  36. maryline calabrin

    After reading all the comments made,there is a simple solution,have the beach party’s but no booze!!!! I wonder if then could Herm survive the summer without the booze!YES because this island has the attraction of beauty and if managed in a good way it will always be a place for all of us to enjoy.

    Report abuse

  37. Samantha

    The trouble is that people always rush in and spout without first knowing the details: they just assume the worst and start from there!

    Report abuse

  38. Larry

    anita zabiela – “needles from social drug use” ?!?!?! WAKE UP !

    Report abuse

  39. Henry

    In the 1950s and 60s Tektronix organised a beach party every summer for its 500 or so staff and families. A team (of which I was one) went over on the Saturday and set up tents, a dance floor, tables, barbeques, bins, etc.
    It was a great success as I recall with no damage and a thorough clean up afterwards.
    Properly managed – beach parties can be a great idea.

    Report abuse

  40. Jackie

    The other solution is to shut up about it and let the owners get on with job of building their business. Guernsey residents’ opinion is largely irrelevent, it ain’t our island.

    Report abuse

  41. Pete

    Well done new landlords – all we need now is donkey rides (no pun intended) and ‘kiss me quick’ hats.

    Why not have a candie floss stall and maybe a fairground as well? Once the party gets going and the booze starts flowing, what we need is noise, lots of noise. Wow, yes and fireworks, we could have lots of fireworks especialy bangers.

    There really isn’t anywhere else to party these days so come on all you moaners, get out of the way so we can have fun!

    Report abuse

  42. Eric

    Well; Okay; allow this in Herm, and that lovely Island, is finished; It will become (little Dubai), Now Dubai can manage it, and it’s great.

    But Herm is a natural haven of beauty, That will disappear.

    I speak strongly about Herm; for it had great memories for me: having lived there; I can assure people of it’s beauty and serene nature.

    Has this mixed up States no say in the matter; It is a lease, The Island belongs to the people of Guernsey; It was our money that bought it back from the English.
    Think before you leap–

    Report abuse

  43. Merlin

    The new owners have to do something to increase the viability of Herm as a business and therefore i have no problems with well planned beach parties now and again. It will not detract from Herms uniqueness at all. There are parties at the Mermaid all the time and the island has not turned into a drug abusers paradise.

    I also remember beach parties of old which were well run and there was no trouble. They could hold festivals like the Sark sea festival which brings in lots of visitors.

    It is a business and not there for us Guernsey to go over maybe once a year for a walk around a picnic. We have to support it if it is to remain a going concern and something has to change – it does not have to be to the detriment of Herm.

    Report abuse

  44. Expat80

    Whoa, Jackie, hold the phone!! Your comment ‘Herm is not our Island…shut up and let the owners get on with their job’ has me confused as I have always believed Herm does indeed belong to the Bailiwick and as such ‘belongs’ to the people of the Bailiwick. If Herm does not belong to the the Bailiwick and, through that, the people, then how come Guernsey can ’sell and issue’ a lease for Herm and how come it is only Guernsey who can deny or issue a liquor license? Perhaps some one in authority could clarify this for me?

    Report abuse

  45. Guern abroad

    Going on published facts some tiem ago.
    ‘owners’ as posted above means Tenants.
    Tenants if they fall foul of the Lease can get the boot.
    The Landlord in this case is Guernsey.
    Ultimately this means the way I see it is that the current Tenants do not have free reign to do what ever they choose but have to act responsibly.
    Not everything in life can or should be driven around money.

    Report abuse

  46. Jackie

    Hi Expat80, just for clarification, when I said it ‘ain’t our island’ I was referring to the tenants as lease holders. Yes it is Guernsey’s in as much as we ‘own’ it but have leased it. They abide by Bailiwick laws, including maritime and can’t build without planning permission.

    Report abuse

  47. Sally

    Why is everyone getting into to such a state about something that hasn’t even happened yet? Do you you honestly think that the new Tenants and the management team will allow Herm to be spoiled in any way and change things so drastically. Give the guys and chance.Everyone who lives on Herm really cares about the place. Maybe people are reading too much into the article.

    Report abuse

  48. Expat80

    Hi Jackie, many thanks for the clarification. Guern Abroad, thanks for your clarification too, and I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments that ‘tenants’ do not have free reign and that everything in life should not be driven around money. If only everyone thought the same way.

    Report abuse

  49. Hermite

    Getting the balance between keeping Herm as it is and making money will always be difficult .I am not wild on the idea but need to know who are the intended party folk . Beach bbq may mean many things to different people as evidenced by the response .
    I was young once and if I wanted a wild party would not want a sea ride back to Guernsey . I would rather sleep things off in the Dunes .Is this what the Singers want?

    Report abuse

  50. GsyGal

    Hermite: I believe thats part of the idea. People having to stay in the hotels, campsites and guest houses over there. Assuming people would rather a bed or even a tent to a sand dune that is.

    Report abuse

  51. Mato

    I suspect that the whole beach party thing was one of many ideas that the hospitality director is throwing about. Let’s face it we all love Herm & care about what happens to it, but I do wonder how many of the people commenting before the idea has been fully clarified actually put their money where their mouth is & visit Herm? It is a business & with the tourist industry in Guernsey going the way it is perhaps the new management team want to target Guerns to help balance the books. Everyone should be grateful that the lease wasn’t sold to some faceless business with no connection to Guernsey. Let’s bide our time, maybe spend some of our hard earned cash at the Mermaid & give the new management a chance.

    Report abuse

  52. Sally

    In reply to GsyGal – do think staff and residents on Herm want people on the campsite and Guest Houses (wherever these are on Herm) sleeping off I think not!

    Report abuse

  53. Theresa

    I have a feeling what the Tenants of Herm are suggesting is private parties for special functions, like weddings and company do’s, rather then a swinging free for all! I also imagine that the party will finish just before the last boat is due to leave, much like the Captain’s table and the Mermaid barbeque, which means people are merry rather than flat out drunk.

    Personally I hope they do go ahead as I wanted to get married on the beach in Caribbean but I’m too poor and so I had visions of getting some cut-out palms, big bowls of rum punch and coconut “glasses” and having the do on Shell Beach….those Herm folks have been reading my mind!

    There is too much doom and gloom, let them try it and see.

    Report abuse

  54. Voice of Reason

    Good God the GP must be thrilled with the mass hysteria whipped up by their inacurate article. It always amazes me that inteligent readers automaticaly take as gospel what a paper has to report, and all common sense goes out the window.

    Sally and Mato I applaud your reasoning. Herm’s new management team are not going to do anything to put the Island or their own job security in harms way. As Mr Watson said on Channel tv last Wednesday, they are looking at many possible ideas to bring people to enjoy Herm. He did not say it was going to become the next Magaluf!!. We do need to support Herm as Mato said, especially in todays climate. We take Herm for granted but don’t visit as often as we could, so lets either put up, or shut up. As for it being a haven for druggies and Shell beach becoming a needle hazard, GET A GRIP!!

    Report abuse

  55. Shell

    It seems the only person who read my previous posts was Theresa. PRIVATE AND CORPORATE FUNCTIONS. Why can no-one understand this? Do you really think Herm residents want booze-ups and drunks on Shell Beach?

    Report abuse

  56. Timo

    I don’t think it is hysteria at all; people love and care about the wee island. In fact, rather nice that in this day and age people are passionate about the place they live (for Herm is part of the Bailiwick and everyone has an interest in it).

    Still, as mentioned in my earlier post, ideas need to be thrown around and I still trust that with further consideration, this one will get the chop. Would it be too simplistic to wonder if Herm will actually benefit from the ‘credit crunch’? After all, it already offers good value and many may cancel their European/overseas trips in favour of staying closer to home. If only!

    Report abuse

  57. DanLobster

    During my formative years growing up on Guernsey, I attended literally dozens of beach parties, mainly at Pembroke and Little Pembroke. Some of these were organised and sanctioned, some were not.

    It was terrible, I can tell you! The majority of revellers were drug injecting, glass breaking, foul mouthed miscreants, some of whom were wearing hooded jumpers. In fact, there was almost a total lack of decent hard working people, simply enjoying each others company in a beautiful outdoor environment.

    Needless to say (or should that be ‘Needles to say’!?), nobody cleared up after themselves, and a rotten time was had by all, excluding of course the aforementioned hooded individuals, who seemed to have a whale of a time ruining everything for everybody. Won’t someone please think of the children!

    Report abuse

  58. Shell

    In reply to Dan Lobster:
    I think you’re being ridiculous. You are forgetting that Herm has excellent staff and policing and ‘drug-injecting foul-mouthed miscreants’ wouldn’t even make it off the boat. Get real.

    Report abuse

  59. George

    Amazing how people jump to conclusions and feel they need to whine and rant about it without having any actual facts about what is actually planned!

    And Shell, DanLobster is being ironic, not serious.

    Report abuse

  60. Millie

    Please leave the Shell Beach as it should be (Beautiful) you will ruin it having parties with all sorts of stupid people attending. This ia a very beautiful Island and unlike some should remain beautiful, Guernsey has been ruined with yobs, drunks and drugies..as for Student Bob you need your A** kicked into touch by even thinking of letting the litter be swept to Jersey by the tide..this is the sort of idiot that we don’t need on our island..

    Report abuse

  61. DanLobster

    Millie, please take a deep breath, ensure that the rabbit inside your head operating the controls has adequate food and water, re-read Student Bob’s comment, and tell me if you seriously believe he was being serious…

    Report abuse

  62. mick

    Anything that removes the party types from Guernsey the better I like it.
    Pity Herm is only 3 miles away.

    Report abuse