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]]> By: Hell n Back http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56952 Hell n Back Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:42:33 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56952 I wonder just how fair is is on the poor creature to try to repair the leg. As he already has one weak leg and is clearly going to suffer a great deal of pain during his recovery, a recovery which is not guaranteed, I personally would have put the poor thing down, it is the one thing we can do for our animals that we are not allowed to do for our family! I wonder just how fair is is on the poor creature to try to repair the leg. As he already has one weak leg and is clearly going to suffer a great deal of pain during his recovery, a recovery which is not guaranteed, I personally would have put the poor thing down, it is the one thing we can do for our animals that we are not allowed to do for our family!

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]]> By: Concerned Local http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56916 Concerned Local Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:47:32 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56916 I just have to have my say about the previous comments. I am also a neighbour of Mr Falconer. I know for a fact and have witnessed that the dogs are always walked with their leads. So the previous "Neighbour" comments are utter rubbish! Also about the other comment by the "Neighbour" - do you know why the dog went missing?? No I suppose you don't. There were builders working on the house and they left the back garden gate open!! So that was why the dog escaped from the back garden. The dog was found after 8 days. Mr Falconer and his friends had been searching every day until it was found. It just makes me so irrate that such NOSEY "Neighbours" can get all the facts soooo wrong! We should just be happy that Coby appears to be on the long road to recovery. I just have to have my say about the previous comments. I am also a neighbour of Mr Falconer. I know for a fact and have witnessed that the dogs are always walked with their leads. So the previous “Neighbour” comments are utter rubbish!
Also about the other comment by the “Neighbour” – do you know why the dog went missing?? No I suppose you don’t. There were builders working on the house and they left the back garden gate open!! So that was why the dog escaped from the back garden. The dog was found after 8 days. Mr Falconer and his friends had been searching every day until it was found.
It just makes me so irrate that such NOSEY “Neighbours” can get all the facts soooo wrong!
We should just be happy that Coby appears to be on the long road to recovery.

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]]> By: Neighbour http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56874 Neighbour Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:27:48 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56874 Hi, I need to comment about Mr Falconer 4 dogs. I live by Mr Falconer. A number of times I have seen his dogs around on the roads by they self's. It was only the other month he lost one of dogs for a number of weeks!!! I have never seen Mr Falconer put leads on his dogs when putting them in his van or when he walks them up the road. Poor Coby, a very sweet dog. I hope you gets better soon. Hi,

I need to comment about Mr Falconer 4 dogs. I live by Mr Falconer. A number of times I have seen his dogs around on the roads by they self’s. It was only the other month he lost one of dogs for a number of weeks!!!

I have never seen Mr Falconer put leads on his dogs when putting them in his van or when he walks them up the road.

Poor Coby, a very sweet dog. I hope you gets better soon.

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]]> By: andy http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56857 andy Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:23:33 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56857 hi, the dogs involved here all had leads on, they jumped out the van when the 4 were being put inside hi, the dogs involved here all had leads on, they jumped out the van when the 4 were being put inside

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]]> By: Donald Remfrey http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56799 Donald Remfrey Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:12:36 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56799 Thought it might be interesting for some of you to know what the Motoring Organisations and Police advise on the Continent,bearing in mind that speeds on motorways etc are much higher than in Guernsey.So the advice is,if you are driving and are suddenly confronted by an animal on the road in front of you grip the steering wheel firmly,do not swerve or brake hard as this may cause you to swerve either into the oncoming traffic,or a tree,with dire consequenses.If you hit the animal you are required to inform the police(remain where you are till they arrive)The local Forester will then be asked to either put a humane end to the animals suffering,or remove its body.One may ask,"why not brake hard or take evading action",well there is just not time to consider these options.And remember too,a sudden "evading action" by pulling the wheeel left or right will be enough alone to cause an accident,especially if the car is not fitted with ESR, ASP and other electronc devices.And of course,if the road is wet or icy-----------!!!!!! And if you see the sign warning of animals crossing the road,SLOW DOWN,I learnt a lesson a few months ago,we had been out to dinner in the country,were driving home in the dark,70KPH speed limit,and the animal warning sign.Can't say why,but something told me to slow down,and suddenly a small herd of deer appeared in front of me,and I was able to stop in time.Had I been doing the 70KPH I would have hit them without doubt! Thought it might be interesting for some of you to know what the Motoring Organisations and Police advise on the Continent,bearing in mind that speeds on motorways etc are much higher than in Guernsey.So the advice is,if you are driving and are suddenly confronted by an animal on the road in front of you grip the steering wheel firmly,do not swerve or brake hard as this may cause you to swerve either into the oncoming traffic,or a tree,with dire consequenses.If you hit the animal you are required to inform the police(remain where you are till they arrive)The local Forester will then be asked to either put a humane end to the animals suffering,or remove its body.One may ask,”why not brake hard or take evading action”,well there is just not time to consider these options.And remember too,a sudden “evading action” by pulling the wheeel left or right will be enough alone to cause an accident,especially if the car is not fitted with ESR, ASP and other electronc devices.And of course,if the road is wet or icy———–!!!!!!
And if you see the sign warning of animals crossing the road,SLOW DOWN,I learnt a lesson a few months ago,we had been out to dinner in the country,were driving home in the dark,70KPH speed limit,and the animal warning sign.Can’t say why,but something told me to slow down,and suddenly a small herd of deer appeared in front of me,and I was able to stop in time.Had I been doing the 70KPH I would have hit them without doubt!

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]]> By: Paul Le Page http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56791 Paul Le Page Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:15:09 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56791 I see VQ, trying to get some brownie points eh...with populism like that you should be in politics! ;-) I see VQ, trying to get some brownie points eh…with populism like that you should be in politics! ;-)

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]]> By: Paul http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56730 Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:01:59 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56730 I hope the Press do a follow up to this story as I understand the driver did stop and the owner quickly called the 3 dogs in. One can only assume that at that time , as the dog was able to move quickly away the injury was not immediatey apparent. Was the owner concerned of being liable for causing an accident? are the animals licensed? or insured? and does the cost of repairing the dogs injury have any bearing on the owner trying to shift the blame of the accident? I hope , for once, the outcome is published as all too often things are reported in a headline grabbing way and readers are left to draw their own conclusions to who was really to blame. I hope the Press do a follow up to this story as I understand the driver did stop and the owner quickly called the 3 dogs in. One can only assume that at that time , as the dog was able to move quickly away the injury was not immediatey apparent. Was the owner concerned of being liable for causing an accident? are the animals licensed? or insured? and does the cost of repairing the dogs injury have any bearing on the owner trying to shift the blame of the accident? I hope , for once, the outcome is published as all too often things are reported in a headline grabbing way and readers are left to draw their own conclusions to who was really to blame.

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]]> By: VQ http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56708 VQ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:04:29 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56708 Oh blimey, I see I need to be careful what I say on here - I made the comment about a pet being as important as a child so the animal rights bashers wouldn't have a go at me!! But all the parents did instead - oops. Of course your child would be more important than a pet but the point is, you wouldn't let a child run out into the road so why let your dog or anything for that matter?? Roads are dangerous places. That's the real crux of the point I was trying to make. Personally I'd rather have a dog than a child....but that's not important to this thread! Oh blimey, I see I need to be careful what I say on here – I made the comment about a pet being as important as a child so the animal rights bashers wouldn’t have a go at me!! But all the parents did instead – oops. Of course your child would be more important than a pet but the point is, you wouldn’t let a child run out into the road so why let your dog or anything for that matter?? Roads are dangerous places. That’s the real crux of the point I was trying to make.

Personally I’d rather have a dog than a child….but that’s not important to this thread!

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]]> By: GG http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56699 GG Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:24:38 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56699 I can see both sides to this, the driver perhaps could've been a bit more careful, but in all seriousness it's quite easy to not realise you've hit anything, it might've been a pothole! But even so, the dogs should've been on leads, and the owners should've taken more concern. I can see both sides to this, the driver perhaps could’ve been a bit more careful, but in all seriousness it’s quite easy to not realise you’ve hit anything, it might’ve been a pothole!

But even so, the dogs should’ve been on leads, and the owners should’ve taken more concern.

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]]> By: Donald Remfrey http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56695 Donald Remfrey Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:50:28 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56695 I do hope that doggy suvives as I do know how important dogs are to some people,and in many cases are an inportant factor in their health.Oddly the wife and I were walking in the local Castle grounds and we met a guy with a dog,and guess what,the dog had three legs!This was today,we chatted with the guy and he told us the dog,when a puppy,got caught up in a fence and the vet had no choice but to amputate.The dog seemed unaware of his disablement,and the guy said his dog was perfectly happy. So I wish all in Guernsey a pleasant weekend,don't forget the lead though when you take Fiffi out to do whatever dogs do when out! I do hope that doggy suvives as I do know how important dogs are to some people,and in many cases are an inportant factor in their health.Oddly the wife and I were walking in the local Castle grounds and we met a guy with a dog,and guess what,the dog had three legs!This was today,we chatted with the guy and he told us the dog,when a puppy,got caught up in a fence and the vet had no choice but to amputate.The dog seemed unaware of his disablement,and the guy said his dog was perfectly happy.
So I wish all in Guernsey a pleasant weekend,don’t forget the lead though when you take Fiffi out to do whatever dogs do when out!

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]]> By: Paul Le Page http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56662 Paul Le Page Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:39:51 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56662 Further to my previous post and to clarify in case of misunderstanding - of course if our dog started showing signs of "un-friendliness" to our daughter we would try to find a new adult-only home for her first; it would only be if she actually attacked our daughter or another child that we would have her put down. Fortunately she is really friendly to our daughter who, even at 3 months, is interacting with her. I'm convinced one of the reasons for this friendliness is that our dog knows her place at the bottom of the "pack" hierachy. Further to my previous post and to clarify in case of misunderstanding – of course if our dog started showing signs of “un-friendliness” to our daughter we would try to find a new adult-only home for her first; it would only be if she actually attacked our daughter or another child that we would have her put down.

Fortunately she is really friendly to our daughter who, even at 3 months, is interacting with her. I’m convinced one of the reasons for this friendliness is that our dog knows her place at the bottom of the “pack” hierachy.

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]]> By: Paul Le Page http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56658 Paul Le Page Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:02:26 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56658 "A dog is every bit as valuable as a child." In your opinion however it is not one I share. I own a dog and have a young daughter. Rest assured although my dog is a much loved pet, my daughter (or any other child for that matter) is of infinitely greater worth. If I thought for one second my dog was a danger to a child I would have her put down. If I thought a dog was going to attack my daughter or another child, I would use whatever means necessary (including deadly force) to protect her without a moment's hesitation. A child is of infinitely greater value than any dog. “A dog is every bit as valuable as a child.”

In your opinion however it is not one I share. I own a dog and have a young daughter. Rest assured although my dog is a much loved pet, my daughter (or any other child for that matter) is of infinitely greater worth.

If I thought for one second my dog was a danger to a child I would have her put down. If I thought a dog was going to attack my daughter or another child, I would use whatever means necessary (including deadly force) to protect her without a moment’s hesitation. A child is of infinitely greater value than any dog.

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]]> By: bcb http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56655 bcb Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:19:59 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56655 A pet just as important as a child? God if i thought my pet rabbit was as important as my daughter i think i would go straight to the doctor for help. I also dont see anything wrong with D R post. Hope the dog in question gets well soon. A pet just as important as a child?
God if i thought my pet rabbit was as important as my daughter i think i would go straight to the doctor for help.
I also dont see anything wrong with D R post.
Hope the dog in question gets well soon.

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]]> By: VQ http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/11/19/dog-hit-by-car-left-with-100-breaks-in-leg/#comment-56647 VQ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:11:49 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=39575#comment-56647 I don't understand why people are criticising Donald Remfrey's post - it's perfectly acceptable to say that it could have been much worse if the driver had taken evasive actions and killed a person instead. It's also true that dogs on or near roads should be kept on a lead (particularly when there was 4 of them!!) And to all of you people who say a dog is just as important as a child (and I do agree with you) you wouldn't let your child go running off so why allow a dog? And it's also true that some people panic after an accident but as Mr Remfrey says, the driver has now been to the Police and fair play to him/her for doing so. And as for Belinda saying that anyone who is driving safely has no reason to hit anything, that's absolute rubbish. Even the safest of drivers can't predict when something is going to come tearing out of a gateway and run into their car. This is an unfortunate and sad accident and I suspect that the Guernsey Press is making a big deal out of it because of the background to the story i.e. being a rescue dog. I'm intrigued by the Press's comment about it being one of 45 malnourished or dead dogs - was it malnourished or was it dead? Stupid editorial by the Press again. It must have been very upsetting for the owners, I've watched a loved cat get run over when it followed me to the main road and I know how awful it is. I hope Coby makes a good recovery. I don’t understand why people are criticising Donald Remfrey’s post – it’s perfectly acceptable to say that it could have been much worse if the driver had taken evasive actions and killed a person instead. It’s also true that dogs on or near roads should be kept on a lead (particularly when there was 4 of them!!) And to all of you people who say a dog is just as important as a child (and I do agree with you) you wouldn’t let your child go running off so why allow a dog?

And it’s also true that some people panic after an accident but as Mr Remfrey says, the driver has now been to the Police and fair play to him/her for doing so.

And as for Belinda saying that anyone who is driving safely has no reason to hit anything, that’s absolute rubbish. Even the safest of drivers can’t predict when something is going to come tearing out of a gateway and run into their car.

This is an unfortunate and sad accident and I suspect that the Guernsey Press is making a big deal out of it because of the background to the story i.e. being a rescue dog. I’m intrigued by the Press’s comment about it being one of 45 malnourished or dead dogs – was it malnourished or was it dead? Stupid editorial by the Press again.

It must have been very upsetting for the owners, I’ve watched a loved cat get run over when it followed me to the main road and I know how awful it is. I hope Coby makes a good recovery.

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