TOWN’S largest retail employer has no intention of opening on Sundays.
Creasey’s managing director Tony Creasey (pictured) oversees the local Creasey’s shops, Marks & Spencer, Simply Food, Miss Selfridge, Warehouse and Fuse.
Currently only the St Martin’s Simply Food opens on a Sunday and Mr Creasey said he could not see that changing.
‘My views haven’t changed and we are happy with the current regulations,’ he said.
‘We can’t see any significant advantages of opening on a Sunday.’
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Article posted on 21st July, 2010 - 2.29pm
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Excellent decision. Thankyou. Now let us see all other Guernsey retailers contribute likewise in keeping Guernsey ’special’.
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Who are we keeping Guernsey Special for if you want to open why not if people want to work no one would be forced ,
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What rot. Typical protectionism by Creasey. If a proper, independent survey was to be carried out (not by the extremely biased and unrepresentative Chamber of Commerce Council or the Town Centre Partnership) I think you would find a majority of local retailers throughout the island as a whole coming out in favour of being able to open their shops on Sundays.
Retailers’ fundamental freedoms have been suppressed for far too long and there is absolutely no doubt at all that the vast majority of islanders want to see the current dog’s dinner done away with. The reaction to the Friquet fiasco was enough to show that this is the case.
Going back to Creasey, what a hypocrite! Under the current crazy rules he is allowed to open some of his stores on a Sunday and does so with his M&S in St Martin’s yet he does not want that choice to be extended to others.
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That’s courage for you, well done.
Hope others follow suit
They’ll not lose by it; in fact they’ll gain.
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One can go to countless tourist traps in Europe and find the majority of large shops closed on a Sunday.
What Guernsey had until a few years ago was, I feel, oppressive but the way things are now appear to be a good compromise.
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Martino
No need to get too personal about a retailer’s position.
The chap is a major employer, has a number of units and is perfectly entitled to express a view on how any policy change will or will not impact on his business.
“Retailers’˙ fundamental freedoms have been suppressed for far too long ” And you can stop that as well. I was half expecting you to launch into some Human Rights compliancy para – wind your neck in :)
All he has said is that he would not open on a Sunday. That’s fine, then don’t. But consider not stop other retailers having that choice. Laws that allow you to get dunk on a Sunday, but not buy a bible? Parish officials put in a position whereby have to argue over what constitutes a pot or a vase.
If you are open, then at least you should be able to sell what you have on your floor. If you can’t open due to license restrictions then it’s not unreasonable for us to have that debate and consider whether changes in society mean that that needs revisiting.
I know nothing about retail; that’s either the running end or the shopping bit.
But isn’t it a bit odd that SPP retail opens Monday-Friday when most people are actually working? Their biggest day (Saturday) would suggest that more people shop (spend) when they are free to shop. Therefore Sunday would be………??
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Sunday would be a major trading day, similar to Saturday. No significant advantages? If he really does think that perhaps now is the time to retire and hand over the reins to someone who is interested in retail.
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Actually Neil, practically I agree with your entire post. I duly wind in the fundamental freedoms bit and accept that I may have been a bit too personal with my previous criticism.
What doers need clearing up is the somewhat ambiguous quote: ‘My views haven’t changed and we are happy with the current regulations’
Does he mean simply that he is ‘neutral’ as to whether the current legislation is scrapped/relaxed because he won’t open up any more of his stores in any case? If so I have no problem with that and owe him an apology.
But if he means he is against any change to the current legislation because ‘I’m alright Jack, I can open the one store I want to open on Sunday as things are’ then I really do have a problem with that!
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Mr Creasey, if you’re so against opening on Sundays why is your St Martins store open on Sundays? This article is completely useless…
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I beleive if retailers what to open on a Sunday then let them, but im sure the staff that work in retail would like time off with there families as they work all week. I do find it funny that you can buy somethings on a Sunday but not everything.
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Good for Mr Creasey,at least some shop owners can see staff need time with their families etc.Also if everything was open 7 days a week nobody would gain a single pound extra,in fact it would reduce profits.Retailers have six days on which they can open when they like,and some are open in the evenings.
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How would this reduce profits exactly? Workers would still have the same amount of time off and in fact are protected by the Sunday Working Law. The people who work on a Sunday CHOOSE to work on a Sunday.
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Why,in this modern age,where everyone has transport,fridges,and freezers,is it so important to open on Sunday?.Once upon a time Sunday was also know as the “Sabbeth”,it was the day families got together,and if I may dare say it,others went to Church.So why not one day a week (Sunday) close shops,only those on essential services have to work(and they not EVERY Sunday)And if you can’t run your household so that you can cope 6 days a week without Sunday opening of shops,then you must be a poor manager.And I would not mind betting that opening 7 days a week,with the extra staff needed,may well put prices up!
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I Le Page – your argument about profit may hold water if Guernsey was not a tourist destination and a stop off for a large number cruise ships.
Don – Prices going up as an argument against Sunday trading? I am sorry but that makes no sense at all.
It seems that the majority of retailers do not want to open on Sunday, which I guess is the end of the matter. However, I do now hope we are not going to get the usual moans from retailers about the internet taking their trade away. It seems they don’t even want take advantage of the increase in visitor numbers that Guernsey sees at this time of the year.
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The shops that do open a Sunday haven’t put prices up so there’s no evidence to say that will happen. Everywhere else manage to keep the same prices on a Sunday.
The most important part of your post is Once Upon a Time. Exactly. The church goers can still go to church they can opt out of working. They are though, very much in the minority. Why have pubs open? Why be able to go bowling or to the cinema? why are you able to travel? If you bang on about sabath then surely these things should be included.
Welcome to the 21st century Don, where you no doubt came dragging your feet and screaming.
It will happen, there’s no doubt. The only question is when.
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An interesting debate again which usually winds up with we’re a tourist destination, get into the 21 century etc etc. The point is those who can afford to get to Guernsey (not many I expect based on the price I was finding for a weekend break, let alone a 14 day holiday), don’t want to go shopping on a Sunday. They come for the quiet unspolit place that Guernsey should be. Where I go for my holidays in France, campsite after campsite after campsite, they do not open their shops on a Sunday and they close every day for 1.5 hours lunch but guess what? The place is still heaving with tourists. As for making more money, I expect that what is taken on a Sunday is not taken on a Mon-Sat. People do not have more money to spend just because there is an extra days trading.
Guernseymen, open your eyes and be different from the rest. You may well find that by doing so you make a bit more cash to spend on the boat you don’t know how to sail and the Ferrari you can’t drive.
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I think you’ll find Nick Le P that Sunday is the highest taking day at St Martins M&S.
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Nick, you cannot compare Guernsey to a french campsite and to suggest that Tourists don’t want to spend money on Sunday in Guernsey is a pretty big claim.
My view is that if smaller shops want to open on Sunday, let them do so and it should be free of charge. If they don’t then no problem. The current law makes no sense. I think it would be fantastic if cruise ship passengers were directed towards the Old quarter to spend some of their cash as it a cracking place for a browse.
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If the shops should open on a Sunday, why not the banks! Seems unfair to give the retail trade yet another day to be open when banks are not.
Dave, you say things aren’t more expensive in shops that open Sundays, does that include the Checkers Express’ that although they say the prices are the same, they clearly are not on many of the same products that the big brothers stock.
Unnecessary to open.
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Flash – that may be so but the point remains, what those customers are spending there on a Sunday they are not spending there between Monday and Saturday.
Mutley, you have missed my point. They will spend because the shops are open but they won’t stop coming because they are closed. I was not comparing Guernsey to a French campsite, rather proving the point. They don’t open their shops but the tourists still go there.
Don’t make Guernsey a mini UK it is and should remain much better than that.
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Is it really true that shop workers can opt out of working Sundays? I`d be interested to know if that`s the law.
In any case I`m all for keeping Sunday special. Imagine how depressing it would be if Sunday felt like a weekday!
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I find this whole topic rather strange, Mr. Creasey is quite happy to keep open M&S at St. Martins but does not wish to open his other shops o a Sunday, thats fine by me but why the comment about not seeing significant advantages, of course there is advantages in opening the shop because it is making money. I personally do not think cruise ships rely on Sunday opening I have been on many cruises and the cruises around the med and the baltic often go into ports on a Sunday and a lot of the shops are closed, it certainly does not spoil my cruise and it certainly helps my bank balance.I bet if you gave all shops the choice you would see most of them closed, it just would not be financially viable for them to open on a Sunday.
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I find all these arguements rather strange. If all retailers opened on Sunday what advantage would there be for them? We.ve 65,000 people with only so much to spend you will be spreading your trade over 7 day not six.Why not have All business and services working seven days a week after all that wise old sage Neil Inder says that everyone is working Monday to Friday and Sunday would be busy for retail does this not apply to all businesses? The biggest hypocryt of the lot has been the Guernsey press who have always championed the open all hours shop till you drop ideal yet steadfastly refuses to produce a Sunday paper. I suspect this hypocrasy applies to many. After all why aren’t all of you bashing your boss’s door down to work on Sunday?
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Slep – yes you can opt out of Sunday working.
If you currently work Sundays you can give your manager notice (I believe it’s 3 months, or a month if they have failed to tell you about the opt out clause) to not work Sundays anymore. On the down side what they can do is then cut your hours to give your Sunday hours to someone else who can work a Sunday. They’re not obligated to make up your hours for the other 6 days of the week unless they have vacancies.
If you want to read the law it’s titled The Requirements of the Employment Protection (Sunday Shop Working) (Guernsey) Law, 2001
http://www.gov.gg/ccm/navigation/commerce—employment/employment-tribunal-service/
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kevin
I don’t think that repealing the over complicated Sunday Trading law would make it an offence NOT to open on a Sunday
It wouldn’t make much of a difference to me other than the freedom of knowing that if I needed a pot of paint after morning prayers I could nip along to B & Q or Quayside (whichever one CHOOSES to open )
I don’t think I have ever needed to fill up with petrol on a Sunday but I doubt that many garages have gone to the wall because they have chosen NOT to open
In these days of so many rules and regulations how refreshing it would be to get rid of a ridiculously pointless piece of legislation and give the citizens just a little more choice in how they wish to live their lives
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Last Sunday we were wandering around town and happened upon the Food Festival. Hundreds of American, German, French and UK tourists, their pockets bulging with spending-money splurged their notes under the make-shift awnings along the front – and seemed to be having a jolly time doing so.
As we approached the Pollet, however, a completely different story; lost-looking they peered into the deserted shops with a forlorn expression – lugging their cash-heavy wallets on a sight-seeing-only trip, straight through St Peter Port High Street and back to the Cruise Liner from which they came. It struck me how ridiculous this is. Surely we want these people to enjoy Guernsey and come back, not present them with a dead town! We want them to be buying our goods. Why do we make it impossible for them to do this for a seventh of the week?
This seems particularly insensible during holidays when hundreds of students come home looking for a summer job and are increasingly disappointed. Could the shops that want to not at very least open on Sundays from June through September, holidays and half-terms?
I understand that the Sunday Trading Laws are about to be reviewed, and really urge the States to think about this from a serious socio-economic perspective.
Rebecca Le Prevost BA
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Even if there is some sort of protection for workers,who dont want to work on sundays there are other ways to get rid of workers who dont want to work on sundays,same as if you dont want to do endless hours of overtime.The manager just simply finds other excuses to sack you,or if your looking for a job you wont get the job.
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When one looks around one notices that more and more people are becoming dissatisfied with the Governments they elect to represent them.So why not let the people have more say by means of “referendums”.
So in this case it would simply be the question;
Should shops be allowed to open on Sundays -
Yes -
No -
Simple ‘eh?
(But I would very much doubt it ever happening!)
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Lynnie,
You and I both know that it’s work on Sunday or I’ll cut your money.That is what your post says after all we all live in the real world.
ray
,your post bares no relevance to mine what are you talking about?
Why don’t we spread EVERY business or service provider over seven days a week then we could All avail ourselves of ALL goods and services seven days a week.
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Dave
could you please let us know when you will be starting your Sunday hours so that we may all avail ourselves, at some unspecified time in the future,should we feel the need maybe, of whatever goods or services you are involved in suppliying. If you already work Sundays what’s your problem.
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Rebecca Le Prevost BA,
I take it you’ll be working Sundays then. If you are THE Becky Le Prevost I worked with I recall you were very selective about the hours you were available for .If you are not the Becky Le Prevost I worked with I apologise, although I still take it you’l be working on Sundays..
Kevin Dodd UOL.
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Becky Le Prevost..I know BSc stands for bull sh*t and that MSc stands for more of the same stuff and that PHd is again the same stuff piled higher and deeper, but what is your BA? Why on earth, in these days of an over population of degrees and qualifications, did you feel the need to add that BA? If anything it weakens your case as a contributor…..
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hahahaha Rebecca Le Prevost BA. Bless. Someone has just passed their degree. Let her revel in it for a month or two she’ll soon realise that she looks like an idiot when putting it after her name.
Yup Kevin you’re right. However the law is quite explicit in what you can and can’t do, I just think that no one has challenged it as it’s not a widely known law (for the employees). If they did I’m sure the tribunals would have a field day. Yes you can cut their Sunday hours but if you have vacancy hours elsewhere they must be offered them. They must not be passed up for promotion and so forth. Yes there are things that managers can do to wheedle them out but one day a bright spark will document all these things then take the company for unfair/constructive dismissal. Regardless if they win or not the name of the company will be up there in black and white for all to see or will result in an expensive settlement.
The power is most definitely with the employee. Just need to take a look at the tribunal cases on commerce and employment website to show you that.
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Mr Gamble, my BA is a first class degree in History. I included it simply to indicate that I was a student and I am aware of the problems with students coming home on holiday and wanting to work on a Sunday!
Mr Dodd – yes I did work with you, from 14 to 16. I traded my Saturdays and Tuesday nights (and most Mondays because you were frequently understaffed), and whenever you had more shifts to offer me I took them! Christmas Eve, New Year’s Eve, all Summer, Easter, Winter and Half-Term holidays, shop floor, cash desk, deli, bakery, everything! I worked almost full-time at holidays! Having frequently had you or Mr Lewis call me saying “Bekki – can I have a favour?” and subsequently come in at late notice time after time, I am extremely, EXTREMELY hurt by your comments. Are you perhaps thinking of the “other” Becky? I’d also stay well-past when I should (for free) to make sure everything was finished, and you were full of praise then! You’ll recall the St Sampson’s shop didn’t open Sundays, but when they were short I’d work at Longstore too. When I moved you gave me a stunning reference saying I was a good, reliable worker!
So, in answer to your question, yes, of course I’d work Sundays!
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Rebecca…I think my little bit of silliness may have backfired on me….I am aware of what a BA means, but I was trying to cajole you into using the same yardstick as “PHd means the same stuff piled higher and deeper”…but congratulations all the same!
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I look forward to being able to make an appointment with my Dentist or Advocate on a Sunday as well. Oh! I forgot! They will be the ones enjoying an extra days shopping while the rest of us work. Silly me, the Island doesn’t operate in the interests of the working man does it?
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I’m confused
Does having a degree now make your comments more valid??
I’ll have to start adding my letters now then…..
Ormerman FCA
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Rebecca
You don’t need to justify yourself. You are one of thethe few that post under their real name. Using a nom de plume does allow posters to be a bit more aggressive.
Vic, of course, is at least consistent – he’s just ‘orrible to everyone.
Don’t be put off.
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Becky,
Calm down, if I offended you I apologise but…. this is a debating site for grown ups and not everyone is going to agree with you. Good to see you’ll be working on Sundays though.
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Don – I consider myself to be a modern person and so does my husband, but we do not own a freezer and neither do we own a car.
We are not Christians and in fact do not know of anyone on the island who attends church on a Sunday.
We work six days a week, from Monday to Saturday, in “nine to fives” that take up the hours between 7.30am and 6pm. We would love to see the shops in St. Peter Port open once or twice a month on a Sunday or late night in the week so that we could shop for things like clothes, birthday presents and books, which unfortunately we buy mostly on the internet, on Sundays, which is our day off. We would prefer to give our money to Guernsey retailers, but often it’s just not possible as their shops are never open when we are free to use them.
I can understand why retailers and islanders might be against opening on Sundays. However, from a selfish point of view I would love it if they could open until say 8 or 9pm on a week day once a month (and ensure that it is adequately publicised). It seems to be very popular in December when we have the special Christmas opening hours and I wouldn’t say that those occasions detract in any way from the traditional quiet beauty of St. Peter Port.
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Ms Le Prevost, congratulations on attaining your B.A. I am very proud to see one of the island’s young people achieving a degree and also taking such an interest in the island’s wellbeing. Use your qualification and your intelligence wisely and perhaps you can help to make the island an even better place.
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He doesn’t want to open his shops on Sundays because that would involve paying more out in wages.
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Would be very interesting to see how many from the public sector would be willing to work weekends. I am currently in retail and hate the idea of possibly working on sunday as that is the only day i get to spend with my partner and my family. I find it very hard to believe that people are not able to do there shopping within 6 days.
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I’m a town retailer and believe if shops did open seven days a week there would be very little extra turnover. Most people spend all the money they earn, so an extra day can’t make them spend money they don’t have.
Realistly if my shops did open on a Sunday some extisting staff would have to have to work on that day too, as you can’t employ a sunday only manager or sunday only supervisiors.
We work or are on call to work six days a week, so one day off is not much to ask. Whats wrong with keeping Guernsey Special?
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Kevin
My post was relevant to yours of 25 July because I’m sure you wrote “if all retailers opened on a Sunday” on your first line
The point being that it would be most unlikely that ALL retailers would open on a Sunday
If you didn’t write ” if all retailers opened on a Sunday” I apologise unreservedly
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Ernie – as an advocate I can assure you I am very often already working Sundays, as well as Saturdays and evenings.
Wind your neck in mate with all this class palaver.
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Mr Dodd, your patronising comment sadly only serves to highlight how your first reply was purely personal and didn’t add any mature content to the debate.
“Omerman” – I’m hopeful that no one subscribes anymore to the outdated and idiotic opinion that having a degree makes someone better-qualified to have worthwhile opinions! I’m not going to re-explain why I put BA.
Ernie – I agree that it’d be wonderful if everyone from all sectors would spread their work throughout the week; I personally would enjoy my weekend much more if it didn’t coincide with everyone else’s! It would also allievate many of the problems we have with parking, for instance. I’d also happily have my break mid-week so that someone else could better-enjoy their full weekend with their kids, rather than squeeze them around an over-crowded town on Saturday!
HDM – I’m in agreement over more frequent late-night shopping – Islanders – particularly “9-5ers” are choosing internet shopping because they simply can’t get to the shops or don’t want the hassle when they get there, (although lets not rule out inflated Guernsey prices and a tendancy for impatience – although this last aspect might be exclusive to my family).
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I still haven’t seen or heard a single half decent reason why these restrictive laws should not be scrapped. If you don’t want to open or work on a Sunday then don’t. It’s as simple as that. Nobody will be forced to do anything. People will choose for themselves.
All we are getting from the anti brigade is the same old scaremongering stuff. Remember the (not so) old days when you couldn’t buy petrol or go to a pub on a Sunday? The antis were predicting the end of the world as we know it before these laws were relaxed but, as has been proved, things like this always find their own level and Sundays will continue to remain different because many will choose not to work and not to open.
PS I work on Sundays and it’s entirely my choice!
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….aw come on Neil “‘orrible to everyone”…bit far reaching that one. I was charm itself when you and I last met and cannot recall one ‘orrible or nasty comment made, by me, to you.
And I did apologise to Rebecca BA. That must be worth one teeny weeny little Brownie point surely.
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Rebecca I consider myself well and truly told off, Apologies.
However the point I’m trying to make is that pressure will be put on staff to work on Sundays one way or another if a company wishes to open.When my kids were young they were at school Monday to Friday I worked and still do all day Saturday (7.00 a.m. to 6.30 p.m. is my shift)Sunday was my only day off with them and my wife, I did have Monday off but my wife was at work and the kids were at school. I’ll give you an example of what happens when stores start to open on Sundays the staff get paid double time then that gets taken away and replaced with “Sunday rate” hardly fair I think.Some stores in Guernsey are open 112.5 hours per week is that not enough? By the way what did you expect tourists to buy in the pollet on Sunday? The shops if there are any, were closed because the owners don’t think they can make a profit by opening what’s wrong with that?
Martino good for you if it suits you to work on Sunday but it doesn’t suit everyone. Try asking finance workers to regularly work on Sunday and see how far you get.
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RLPBA
Shame your studies appear to have removed your sense of humour to my gag, or maybe your GSOH was worn out from the corker that came from your keyboard.
Reading your post and your subseuqent rationale for adding BA actually made me laugh out loud and I have a lovely picture in my head of some straws being clutched at.
Please, dont re-explain, a joke is never as funny the second time around.
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Rebecca
Congratulations on obtaining your degree. I usually find those who have to resort to attacking people personally, are the ones who don’t have anything meaningful to add to the debate.
Nick – Dip FCP M.I.C.A
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There are employers out there (myself for one) who (when they employ full timers to work on a Sunday) will give them the Saturday off as one of their days off. Or the other way around. If they worked a Saturday they would have the Sunday off. No one would be forced into working a Sunday they would be told at interview if this was a requirement. Kevin what you posted about double time must be specific for your contract as there’s no legal obligation to be paying extra at all. However, of the two companies I have worked for in Guernsey both pay Sunday rates (which is around 1.5 rate) if it was overtime or asking someone to work a Sunday who normally doesn’t then it’s double time.
Rebecca – I have to say that students are the most flexible. They will do the antisocial hours that the full timers don’t want to do, as much overtime as they can get their hands on and tend to be quite good. They have to be. We wouldn’t take them on for the following season otherwise. Congratulations on your degree. Just don’t go work for the states, you’ll get lynched on here. :)
And it appears I wasn’t speculating about where you work Kevin, funny that…
Lynnie – MA, MCIPD, CPPcert, BA, GNVQ, GCSE
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Okay….. back to topic.
I want to keep Sundays special. This is because in the UK, where personal debt (excluding mortgages) is now averaging £10,000 per person, shopping has become a national pastime. Where once families piled into the car for a day at the seaside etc they now pile into the car for a day at the local shopping mega centre. They queue to get into the car park, drag the (bored) kids round the shops, buy stuff made halfway around the world that they neither need nor can afford, then pile into the car for the journey home again. Did you know the average Ikea customer drives for 2 hours to shop at Ikea? That’s two hours there and two hours back! (But don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Ikea)
I’m certainly not saying we should all be in church, nor am I saying the shops in St Peter Port should miss out on the cruise ship passengers willing to be parted from their money.
So how about this… It doesn’t have to be an all or nothing approach. So, could the shops in St Peter Port open on the Sundays when a cruise ship comes in? Or one Sunday a month? Or some other arrangement which best suits the shop owners, shop workers and customers.
Let’s face it, the St Peter Port retailers could really do with our help and support. There seem to be many shops closing down or already empty. Our town is a lovely and very special place and with some clever thinking we can find a solution that works best for Guernsey.
And for what it’s worth, I have enjoyed reading this thread, but think we should all be able to express our opinions without fear of personal attack. I’m all for a bit of humour and banter, but some of the comments above are just hurtful and unnecessary. Plus, if you have to resort to personal comments, you’ve kinda lost the argument.
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Emma
Thanks for bringing us back to topic at last
Your third paragraph starts ” So how about this…”
I believe that any or all of your sensible suggestions could be achieved by simply repealing the whole Sunday Trading law and let the shopkeepers and shop workers choose what they want to do
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People seem to be being a bit unfair about those working in Finance, many of whom seem ALWAYS to be going in at weekends!
Emma – I agred with much that you said. How do you then feel about my suggestion; ie June to September and holidays? Anti-Sunday retailing people – what objections might you present for this?
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Vic, it was meant in jest.
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Sorry to scotch your suggestion Rebecca but this is just tinkering. You’re trying to turn the dog’s dinner into a dog’s breakfast.
As Ray says the only sensible solution is to scrap the whole inconsistent, illogical, idiotic and unfair system.
And Emma, the horse has bolted already. You are living in 2010 now, not 1960. You are 50 years behind the times. Over the last half century people’s working, shopping and social trends have changed – irrevocably – whether you like it or not. Learn to live with it.
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Creaseys decision not to open Sundays is the correct one. I am a holiday visitor to Guernsey from UK mainland for many years and look forward to a Sunday with no shops, except for essentials. The shop workers must have a day off to be with there families and loved ones. On the mainland the promise of a premium rate of pay for working on Sunday has gradually disapeared and Sunday is just another day to be paid at the normal rate! People have 6 days to shop use them and enjoy a quieter Sunday.
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Do you have no idea what will happen to you for all eternity???
Get yourselves to Church and beg the Lord’s forgiveness!
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Why noy have 24/7 shopping?
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I haven’t read every ones comment too many, all I can say is when the chips were down & I needed to go to work Sat & Sun came in very handy, that way my husband looked after our daughter & I could earn some money
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Neil…well thank goodness for that! Jesters jest, but submarines creep quietly up from the depth to stalk….I’m glad it was the former, you know what a retiring sensitive little sweet-William blossom I can be.
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lynnie,
you appear to be obsessed with where I work just let it go.
Rebecca I know many,many people in finance and they do NOT go to work on Sundays regularly although I do concede a few go in very occasionaly.
Let’s turn this debate around a bit can any of you guys tell me what advantage there would be to open on Sunday for any store which is currently not open. After all you all appear to be experts on retailing. I repeat that I believe stores choose to be closed on Sunday because thet feel they can’t make more profit by opening seven days a week what’s wrong with that. I invite your comments
Blimey Lynnie are those letters after your name real?
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Jesus Loves You.
Love the sense of humour.
Of course Mr Creasey doesn’t want to open all of his shops on a Sunday.
Why should he? He gets enough profit from the ridiculous prices he charges us six days a week.
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Sara Thompson – Get thee to a nunnery!!!!!!
:-)
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kevin
Not all stores CHOOSE to be closed on Sunday
The majority are NOT PERMITTED to open on a Sunday
If the pathetic ( keep the citizens under the thumb )Sunday Trading law was repealed instead of tinkered with yet again the ten Douzaines wouldn’t be in danger of coming up with ten different interpretations of what is a pot and what is a vase
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Well apparently you can have letters after your name for each certificate/diploma/degree you do so yup. Although it does look a bit naff doesn’t it? Hence why I don’t use them… I always find them pretentious and no one ever knows what they mean!
Kevin I may be obsessed but it’s only my need to be right. I’m sure it’s a common trait amongst us HR folk ;)
You bring up a good point though. Open up the law so that if retailers WANT to open they can do, if not then they can stay shut. What I think will happen though is that those determined 7 day traders will do all the hard work getting the trade up to an acceptable limit then those stores who initially snubbed it will give in and open up. Hardly fair is it.
I do think it’s inevitable though. People’s shopping and spending habits have changed drastically in the last 10 years let alone what they used to do in the 60’s. I had to re-climatise myself when I returned from the UK to not find a shop open past 10pm when I wanted a bar of chocolate! The fact is (whether rightly or wrongly) people want more shops open at more convenient times to them. Yes 6 days a week trading is all well and good but when you have people at work unable to get out there for 5 of those days it’s sometimes a squash to fit it all in (along with taking the kids to ballet).
Sunday trading is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Guernsey retailing though. Let’s face it we’re hardly spoilt for choice therefore a lot of our hard earned donkey money goes off into the world wide web of shopping….or Jersey (god forbid) or Southampton on shopping trips. We should really be aiming to keep our coffers on island. If Sunday trading is one way to do that then I’m all in!
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Lynnie
I think you just proved my point.
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Lynnie,
I expected more from you what with all those letters after your name.
You ignore the fact that some stores in Guernsey are open (for your bar of chocolate) from 7.00 a.m until 10.30 p.m. every day of the week. Some stores here in little ol Guernsey are closed for one day of the year that is Christmas Day Some stores are open on New Years Day at 7.00 a.m..Many large stores are open 8.00 a.m until 9.00 p.m. every night Monday to Friday indeed some open at 7.30 a.m.
Just been to look at Waitrose in the U.K. Open 8.30 a.m. close 8.00 p.m.weekdays don’t know about Sunday(I could be wrong but I don’t think they open all day Sunday).Tesco Dublin open at 9.00 a.m. Aldi Dublin open 8.30 a.m. Huge superstores open in France open until 7.00 p.m (only started openng until 7.00p.m. three years, ago big deal).Definately closed on Sunday.
Sarah T. by your logic Creaseys opening on Sunday would mean they could charge “ridiculous prices” your words, Seven days a week.
Further and this is something you shop till you drop folks ALWAYS IGNORE. Open up your OWN business whatever it is to seven days a week trading Batter down your boss’s door and DEMAND to have his\her business open seven days a week and you’ll be there, why not? We are ALL selling a product WHERE EVER and WHENEVER we operate and WHEREVER we work. Come on pharmacists,printers,graphic designers,banks,trust companies,finance houses,estate agents,libraries,off licences, electricians,plumbers,carpenters,painters and decorators, builders, blocklayers,tilers,advocates,surveyors,(same charge as weekdays please) Architects, Guernsey Press,clothes stores,jewellers,post offices,bookshops,states housing,all states departments,travel agents,furniture stores,carpet fitters,fitted kitchen suppliers,second hand car show rooms,Fiat,Ford,Subaru,Jaguar,Peugeot,Seat,BMW, e.t.c.Electrical stores,doctors surgeries,gardeners,hardware stores(all of them)bookmakers, and so on and so on. If EVERYONE opened seven days a week the Sunday trading laws would collapse.What are you waiting for? Apparently there’s lots of money to be made.
Kevin, DipI.G.D. FIOEH,Alumni of L.T. A level (3) O level (10) 11 plus pass tied my shoelaces when I was six.
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Lynnie if you had your way you would’t be taking your kids to ballet youd’d be working too or are HR folks 9.00-5.00?
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Ray I have a vacancy ,
all day Sunday care to apply?
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Flash, If what you say is true why don’t Marks’s open their other two stores. You are an expert your answer please.
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Lynnie p.s.
Tried shopping in Jersey on Sunday a few months ago… busmens holiday, no good went to Maritime museum and Durrell instead, much better than the inside of any store.
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@Kevin
Five separate posts, one of them as interminable as a Sunday trading license application form, and still not a single good reason why the present half baked system should not be scrapped in its entirety.
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Kevin
I think I know where you stand! However, you should realise from a response to a previous post of mine that Guernsey cannot be compared to France.
Lynnie, if one of your staff has a grievance to raise, will you be there on a Sunday to hear it?
Better than that though, surely the banks should be open on a Sunday so that the tourists on the cruise ship can change their groats for Guernsey ££’s to spend in the Pollet? Somehow I can’t see that happening anytime soon!
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So many posters (kevin especially) seem to be arguing from the position that repealing the Sunday Trading law would make it COMPULSORY for all businesses to open on a Sunday
There are many miles of narrow lanes in Guernsey with a 35MPH speed limit but thankfully the majority of motorists do not feel OBLIGED to travel at that speed
I am quite sure that many businesses (including non-food traders )would not give a moment’s thought to opening up on a Sunday,but repealing this Dickensian style law would give them the freedom to do so if they wished
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It is not clear to me why shopkeepers equate Sunday opening to 7 day opening and then moan about it.
Sunday opening, Monday closing, for example, is 6 day opening by my arithmetic.
I think we all appreciate a quiet Sunday. Forcing it by statute law seems a totalitarian approach; if people want Sunday to be somewhat different it will happen anyway if they are free to arrange it.
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Kevin I feel flattered that so many of your posts are aimed at me.
Re midnight munchies this was around 5 or so years ago so I’m guessing trading has changed since then (kind of proves my point) …it was a generalisation. I was used to 24hr shopping therefore had to get used to the fact that my chocolate cravings had to wait until the morning.
I’m not too sure what you mean by the “if you had your way…” comment. I’m not promoting making people work till they drop IN FACT I promote that if you can’t get the job done within your contracted hours then you either need to re-forecast your labour or your workforce are not working efficiently. Kevin you chose to work in retail and there are people who chose 9-5 jobs. What difference does it make that it’s 9-5? Does this mean they don’t work as hard as someone who has to work until 9pm? No of course not. The businesses that they work in have obviously decided that their peak trade is between those hours. To answer your question I’m contracted for a set amount of hours per week but not set 9-5 Mon-Fri etc. If someone has a grievance that absolutely cannot wait then yes I will deal with it. However I would hope that their line manager has tried to deal with it first. If there was a need for my presence over another particular day then I would change my schedule to accommodate (and often do). However, this is not about making one particular staff member available 24hrs a day 7 days a week. This is about a business who have several staff members and can rota them for their contracted hours and days off.
As it is the cruise ships have a bureau de change onboard.
At the end of the day if there is demand for businesses to be open they will.
I agree with Martino. The law should be opened up and transparent as opposed to each parish interpreting it their own way. Those who want to open can do, those who don’t want to work have the choice not to and those who want to shop can.
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Nick,
You seem very pleased with yourself but I fail to understand what point you have proved and you have yet to provide a valid argument for the current Sunday Trading Laws?
Answer me this, what do you say to a local retailer who cannot open on a Sunday whwere other retailers are allowed? The Sunday Trading laws are archaic at best and discriminatory at worst.
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I dont think anyone is saying it should be compulsory!! If Mr Creasey doesnt wish to open on a sunday that should be fine, but if someone else wants to then maybe he should be able too a!!
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I think I got away rather lightly there.
Maybe you folks are right but nobody not in retail appears keen to offer their own business to open on Sundays. Why not?
Martino
I have stated in an earlier post that
I do agree that if you open on Sunday you should be allowed to sell anything.
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He is against Sunday trading, but St.Martins M & S is open and they make a killing on a Sunday (thank goodness!!!). Nice for him isn’t it? He gets a bit of both worlds.
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Creasey NIL internet 1,001………
but Creasey was far too expensive anyway
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Mutley
I am not pleased with myself as you suggest. Its just that the arguments used for shops to be allowed to open on a Sunday usually centre around tourism and the 21st Century as they were at the beginning of the debate. The point that is proven is that tourists don’t stop coming to Guernsey because the shops are shut. In the same way tourism will not increase if the whole of Town is open.
Often, and I think this is the case here, those who want shops open on a Sunday are those who will never be asked to work.
If pushed I suggest that all shops should be shut on a Sunday, with only the sale of papers, and medicines allowed. Guernsey won’t grind to a halt between 6pm on a Saturday and 8am on a Monday.
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You just don’t get it do you Nick Le P? The primary reason for doing away with these arcane, archaic and absolutely unnecessary and unworkable laws is not for the benefit of tourists. It is to remove the unwarranted restrictions against those islanders (a sizable majority now) who DO want to open on Sundays and who DO want to work on Sundays and who DO want to shop on Sundays.
Having specific Sunday trading laws to restrict how people operate is as daft as having Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday trading laws that similarly restrict islanders’ lives. The fact that the present legislation is entirely potty and arbitrary, based as it is on the whims of 10 different parish committees, is only further reason why it must be thrown out in its entirety.
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Sangiune
Absolute rubbish!
people shop on the internet for convenience. Goods delivered direct to your door e.t.c.Sunday opening has nothing to do with it.
lynnie “if there is a demand for a business to be open they would be ” proves my point really.There is not the demand.
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Trade secret here I think the St. Martins M and S has to open to comply with what Marks U.K. wants.
Lynnie as usual you spout corperate rhetoric which ,in my experience is what HR normally do.
I work for an organization which has stoers open 364 days a week. That’s enough.
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Kevin – your juvenile jibes to one side (I see you’re incapable of debating without putting personal digs to other posters that have nothing to do with the topic) I believe Neil Inder did a survey some time back showing interest in Sunday trading?
Considering that Sunday is the biggest trading day for SOME stores then I’m sure there are some retailers who would be interested in opening and would do very well to do so.
Neil, do you have such a survey at all?
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lynnie
what goes around comes around.
Having given this some thought I reckon the posters on here who have hammered Mr. Creasy are upset by the fact that someone in retail is in a position to say no. I take the point that what you guys are talking about is probably not opening food stores for any longer than they open now (surely there are enough)but I sincerely do not believe the demand is there for clothes shops e.t.c. to open seven days a week. The law is another issue Martino is right the laws on sunday trading are strange.Lets do away with them open it up and we’ll see. Be careful though you just might end up with less of a retail offer than you have now. This is my Final post on this topic I am exhausted.
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Hello Kevin. Well aren’t you a cheerful soul.
The L’Islet site was developed on the intention of opening up on Sunday and to take trade away from the Checkers store around the corner. They got the dimensions wrong and the floor space was too large to open. I believe they could have asked for a special licence from the parish or special permission, however, they either had this denied or thought it was more trouble than it was worth.
The town site is connected to the main store. Therefore they would have to partition the food store from the main store to open. I’m not too sure how practical this is so that again may be the reason for not opening. As it is the trading hours in that store are ludicrous. 9am – 5.30pm? Well that’s lovely for the staff but not very practical for a food store in town. I would have proposed an 8am – 7pm to catch the people before work/school and to get the overtime hanger on-ers, or other shop workers in town to get something nice for tea.
As has been mentioned on this thread as well as others people’s shopping habits are changing.
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kevin
I should think you are indeed exhausted having to work 364 days a week
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Martino
I certainly do get it. The law is at fault here, I have never disagreed with that.I am all for a change in the law, just not the way you want it.
What I disagree with is the need for shops to be open on a Sunday and I have put foward valid points to challenge the very often quoted “tourism and 21st century” reasons for opening.
As I said in my previous post I would shut all shops on a Sunday, with the 2 exceptions. Such a move would make Guernsey the place it should be.
I also doubt that this will drive people to buy on the internet. If the price differential is such, people will already be doing that.
I would be interested to know what a sizeable majority of islanders equals and in what sectors they work?
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Nick Le P
You mentioned papers and medicines earlier but you forgot to mention the Amish Shoppe
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“I would shut all shops on a Sunday, with the 2 exceptions. Such a move would make Guernsey the place it should be.”
That’s very big of you Nick Le P but I have a bit of news for you. The people of Guernsey are making the island the place it ’should be’ and you are about 60 years behind them.
Ever heard of socio-economic trends? Whether you like it or not the people of Guernsey, quite rightly, are dictating what they want to do and how they want to lead their lives in the year 2010. The methodist killjoys have had their day and their post war puritanical model is now in its death throes.
There is nothing stopping you continuing to act like some sort of disapproving abstemious monk but please don’t try top force your own rather drab lifestyle (for that is all it is) on the rest of us.
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Once again things turn personal when there is no more value to add to the debate. The tone of your post suggests that you know me?
However, when it comes to news, here goes. I am neither a Methodist or a monk. Where I live I can shop anytime from 8am Monday-midnight Sat and 10-4 on a Sunday. I don’t have an issue with shops being open long hours, but I can tell you its a different place now everywhere is open. I also think that such a model is not necessary in Guernsey. This view is not borne out of religious convinction, although being part of a church with 700 coming every Sunday is a good place to be.
Far from having a drab lifestyle as you suggest, I am very happy with my 6 figure salary and all the benefits that brings. I have had to work hard for that though, including the qualification.
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“don’t have an issue with shops being open long hours, but I can tell you its a different place now everywhere is open.”
@Nick Le P
So as a resident how has shops opening hours affected you/the place you live negatively? genuine question.
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Dave
Its a dfferent place because the atmosphere is completely different on say Easter Sunday when the shops remain closed. There is far less traffic about, much quieter around the whole town.
I personally feel everything is much calmer and I can see the good of that once a week.
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I can see exactly where you are coming from now Nick Le P. Nobody’s seeking to keep your church closed on a Sunday so please try not to interfere in the lives of others who choose a different path from you.
Accept as fact that a huge number of Guernsey people now want to work in and go to shops and cafes and supermarkets and garden centres and restaurants on Sundays. You may not like it but it is absolutely no business of yours whatsoever. Live and let live.
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Martino
Can you remind me where I have made any comment about cafes or restaurants being closed on a Sunday? This is a discussion about shop opening not Sunday working per se.
May I ask why its none of my business? I am a local, is my view not valid?
Also, as I asked you earlier, can you quantify “sizeable majority” and a “huge number”? Has a suitable representative survey been conducted? It would be good to know because then we could really see what the people want.
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I think you are totally out of touch Nick Le P. No definitive survey has been done but I think the recent small study among 400 islanders is about right: around 75 per cent of the people resident on this island want to see the total repeal of the Sunday trading legislation. They see it for the nonsense that it is and they see also that any attempt to tinker with it would result in a different kind of nonsense.
In the absence of any full and definitive survey, however, you have only to get out and about in the community to see that those with your hardline views on Sunday trading are now in a tiny minority. Go to the Friquet Centre, go to the Co-op at Longstore or M&S in St Martin’s or Checkers at Cobo. The world all around you has changed, especially over the last 20 years, yet you can’t accept it.
And yes, I don’t think it is any of your business if person A wants to open his shop on Sundays, person B wants to work in it and person C wants to buy stuff from it. You’re entitled not to like it but it really is none of your business at all. Why can’t you see that?
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Martino
I have already agreed with you that the law needs changing. The trouble is you’re too busy attacking me to really consider the points I have raised. Do you honestly think tourism will increase if the shops in town are open on a Sunday? Do you really think that you will ever get the choice of the following on a Sunday?
Mortgage advice from a bank, routine dentistry,
a GP visit, the chance to post a large parcel,
pass contracts on your next house, get advice
on benefits or pay your income tax bill over the counter. You see none of these will happen in the near future because the world has not moved on as much as you suggest. Far from me having hardline views, I am sure none of those professions will open on a Sunday despite the supposed need to move into the 21st Century. Its just the poor old shops that are expected to open for the “convenience” of others.
If you really believe in what you say then you need to mount a campaign for all business to be available on a 7 day basis. If not you are not being true to yourself.
I am grateful for your clarification on the fact that 300 islanders want Sunday trading. This equates to circa 0.5% of the population and even allowing for extrapolation based on a survey is unlikely to reach 10%. Not what I would call a huge number, you would have to get to 35-40% before you could claim that.
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Martino you go too far.
If someone, anyone, doesn’t want to open their business on Sunday what business it is of yours you say?
If it’s not Nick Le P’s business to question why shops should be open on Sunday why is it your business to question why shops are closed on Sunday?
The fact is that despite my challenges to open your own businesses up on a Sunday not one person on this site has said “yeh I’ll open up or work on a Sunday”, not one.
You can do a survey and ask a loaded question like “would you like to have all shops open on a Sunday?” The answer mostly would be yes.What that answer would mean is “Yes at some unspecified time in the future, if I’m not visiting my relatives or if the weather is bad or I’m bored or if I’m not on the beach or on holiday I may wish to wander into a shop to maybe buy something and you must be there for me. It’s absolute rubbish So until ALL of you are prepared to open up your own business\job to seven days a week opening you have no right to ask anyone else to.
Martino retailers are in business to make money just like everyone else what do you think would happen to the stores you mentioned in your last post if everyone opened on Sunday?
You would get transfer business from your other stores. For Christ sake it’s not rocket science I’m at an absolute loss as to why you shop till you drop people can’t see it.
Martino if you are desperate to work on a Sunday fine no problem, the law should allow you to do so and it does, and the law should allow you to sell what you wish on a Sunday but what the posts on this site have proved is that those who would have full retail opening seven days a week are not prepared to offer their own services seven days a week or indeed even six days a week. Also the shop (maybe) till you drop brigade would have you believe that Guernsey is behind and out of date when it comes to opening hours in retail compared to the rest of the world so I challenge you of the “open all hours(unless it applies to me)brigade to do a survey throughout europe on the net of opening hours.
In my previous posts I’ve given you FACTS about opening hours elswhere but you have ALL ignored them.There are stores in Guernsey open seven days a week 7.00 a.m. until 10.30 p.m please specify how many hours more you think these stores should be open come on Martino and Lynnie e.t.c put it in writing so everyone can see what you expect.
Martino why aren’t you asking ALL businesses to be open seven days a week? Further what are your thoughts on stores open to 10.30 p.m. every day of the week and supermarkets already open seven days a week being asked by Lynnie e.t.c. to be open even longer?
Also Martino if a retailer or any other business holder decides he doesn’t wish to open on Sunday what business is it of yours?
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Nick/Kevin,
Martino’s point is simply this, if shops wish to open on Sunday, they should be allowed to.
Nick you keep going on about there being no benefit to shops opening to allow tourists to shop as Sunday.
Well that is a point of view but but i will ask you again, what would you say to an existing retailler who wants to open during the summer season if he/she believes that opening their shop would be beneficial?
Kevin, this is not rocket science – no-one, and i repeat no-one on here is saying you have to open your shop on a Sunday.
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Mutley
I think the fact that I have said I would shut all shops on a Sunday really answers your question. If a retailer asked me that I would say no. I agree that the current legislation is wrong and being different in each parish is ridiculous.
The trouble with the “if shops wish to open on Sunday, they should be allowed to” approach is that if one opens then the one next door will and so on because they are all afraid of “losing” trade. I know that from the experience my Dad had in the 70’s. His shop used to be closed for lunch everyday, but when one other on the Brdige decided to no longer close for lunch, his boss decided that he had to open too. Gone was his lunch time, save for a quick snack in the stockroom!
The freedom that you want is simply not avaialble.
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Thanks Mutley, you’ve said it for me, concisely and accurately. You and I are not seeking to make it compulsory for shops to open 7 days a week. Nowhere have we said this, Kevin, so I regard the main thrust of your long post as irrelevant. My gripe has always been about allowing those who DO want to open their shops on Sundays the freedom to do so. As I’ve said in previous posts, it will find its own natural level and life as we know it will not come to an end as a result. They used the same doom laden arguments against Sunday pub opening and Sunday petrol sales. They are using them again!
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Trading patterns are changing and they have done for as long as there have been traders. The law is outdated, interpreted different and is very limited. If shops want to open, let them. Nick Le P – I do see your point but that is due to the inefficiency of the store managing their working hours, and not to do with trade levels. I would have thought increased trade is a good thing all in all. There are protections there for workers so as long as stores govern within those there shouldn’t be a problem. No reason to lift the Sunday Working Law as there’s plenty of people out there wanting to work on a Sunday.
Consumer demand will dictate the future of retail. Not the shop traders I’m afraid. If you don’t like that then perhaps retail isn’t the best career choice. Although I have to say that tends to be the case with every business. Of all the companies I have worked for there have been “trading” changes made to better suit the customer.
On another note I went to M&S yesterday in St Martin’s. Cars were queuing to get in, madness inside, people queuing down the aisles. I could also see a lot of people just driving out or putting their baskets down and walking out. They had every till open so they were doing all they could but it just goes to show.
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Lynnie
Thanks for your career advice, although I don’t work in retail. I take your point about M and S in St Martins, but that is not extra trade and is more about the shop being open than consumer demand. For example, I bought some cement yesterday, but not because I needed it there and then, simply because I was by B and Q and it was open.
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Sorry Nick Le P the part about working in retail wasn’t aimed at you, my apologies should have started a new paragraph there.
I disagree that it isn’t extra trade. A lot of these purchases would be from people passing therefore convenient to them at the time. Some people would go back if the store wasn’t open and some people wouldn’t. Whilst I think M&S takings would be slightly higher in the week they would drop overall by not opening on the Sunday. Myself for example would have just gone to Checkers or St Peters. It was a bit of an unplanned trip so couldn’t have pre-empted my need for the Sunday on the Saturday and planned ahead. There’s plenty of other stores open on a Sunday so therefore I would have just shopped there instead, it wouldn’t have been my first choice but then needs must. If all shops closed then yes I would have had to plan beforehand, however, because we do have some trading on a Sunday we can’t move backwards only forwards.
Having worked in retail prior to Sunday trading and after the difference was very noticeable on the Profit and Loss’s. Takings were up, they did not stay the same which is what you and Kevin are suggesting. I know the co-op longstore is open on a Sunday, is it a good day for them there Kevin?
We’ll have to agree to disagree it appears regarding Sunday trading, only time will tell!
Lynnie over and out. :)
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As Mrs McNutty has decreed that her Department will not have a window to look into Sunday opening
until October 2011 at the earliest perhaps we could all keep our powder dry on this subject till then ?
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Lynnie,
as your keen to give out career advice could I be a little cheeky and ask you why you aren’t in retail.
Good point Ray.
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Not cheeky at all Kevin, it was simply career progression.
I’m happy to say that I have worked my way up through the ranks across various retail and other commercial companies. Have been on the front line and have held GM positions. I think a good understanding of the business assists good HR.
I have never worked in finance and have no interest in doing so. I should imagine I will return to retail in due course.
October 2011….one for the diary me thinks!
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@ Kevin Sangiune
Absolute rubbish!
people shop on the internet for convenience. Goods delivered direct to your door e.t.c.Sunday opening has nothing to do with it.
Actually I work in retail for an internet company, and you are WRONG! woefully wrong…..
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