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I agree with your comments Dave but I want to add that it is not only certain elements of the public who want what we can not afford but also some deputies who sit in a position, or have been in a position, to spend on large projects, elements of which were beyond what was needed. So the attitude of if we can not afford it we can't have it needs to be both embraced by the States and the public fully. Borrowing would be a slippy slope to ruin which with being an Island can ill be afforded. We need to tackle the big nettles and stop targeting the in comparrisson little spends, and we all know what they are.