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Ed. This was the page I read about the Curitiba bus system. http://urbanhabitat.org/node/344 Obviously their situation is very different from ours but all the same, I thought there were some interesting points made, not least that as long ago as 1965, the planners saw that it would be sensible to integrate public transport with urban planning. They realised, all that time ago, the need for a transport strategy that addressed the needs of ALL people- not just those who could afford cars. And they recognised that allowing cars to dominate would eventually create problems including intolerable congestion.