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GM What do you think Rodney Benjamin meant by it? I can't imagine any other way of interpreting it so you will need to be more specific if you wish to clarify your point. Correct me if I'm wrong but adequate pension regulations are in place which are designed to protect the members of schemes. Some UK schemes could not afford to meet the requirements of those regulations which dictate that the schemes must be adequately funded and that is why they wound themselves up. That does not apply to the public sector as we have discussed before. Regarding your comments on financial advisors, that's not my experience of how they work at all. You are also assuming that people can afford to save. The medical officer of health highlighted that there are 10,000 people in Guernsey who do not have access to health equity. How and why would someone who cannot afford to go to the doctor put aside hundreds a month towards retirement? It makes no sense at all. Rodney Benjamin indicated that the members would have to agree to pension changes to affect an amicable solution and I believe him. Are you suggesting that the States are operating with excessive staff levels and that cuts to the pension benefits will allow the states to continue operating on that wasteful basis? If there is spare fat in the public sector surely this should be cut regardless.