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Ed, Who sets the boundary between 'acceptable' or not? This question must be one of the most vexed when it is being considered by parents or professionals who are charged with looking after 'children' or young adults, if you prefer that term). I'd be interested to hear your views, because I can bet that there will be numerous other 'posters' who will either agree or disagree. Basically, I don't believe there is a finite answer to this, so everyone tends to err on the side of caution, hence the unenviable position that parents and professionals find themselves in when they seek to administer what they believe to be 'acceptable' punishments.