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I'm surprised by your stance on this one Ed. You're more lenient on murderers than students. I guess it's different when they're affecting YOU. I believe the lack of respect that is so common in youths these days is down to poor parenting. The schools are extremely restricted as to what they can and can't do. There have been cases of teachers being sacked for pushing children OUT of the way of moving vehicles. Punishment in school is laughable. I recieved the odd smack or two as a child. It did me no harm. It's a good way of explaining right from wrong. IF the child is doing something naughty a little smack (doesn't need to be hard) is enough of a deterrent for them. Once they reach their later school years however, (15, 16 years old) I think a different form of incentive is nesessary. Reward them for good work and good behaviour. This doesn't need to be anything expensive. Maybe a more interactive lesson where the class has a bit of fun whilst they learn etc. Rewarding individuals will always come with problems due to the inequalities of that system. It will always be those that are generally less well behaved that will earn the rewards, for a lesson or two of good behaviour. This is why the class as a whole should recieve the reward. This will also provoke peer pressure related learning as the trouble maker wouldn't want to let down his/her peers.