Mixed reaction to Clunes programme on islands
Tuesday 19th May 2009, 1:00PM BST.
Martin Clunes learns to drive a horse and cart in Sark. (Picture by ITV Pictures, 0768371)
AN ITV programme broadcast on Sunday featuring Martin Clunes in Guernsey with a member of the Commerce and Employment Department has not pleased everyone.
Martin Clunes’ Islands of Britain has been described as portraying the island as a ‘haven for the super rich and drug smugglers’, by States members and the public.
However, its section on Sark has been praised for prompting more than 100 emails.
Deputy Barry Brehaut said the programme was a squandered opportunity that was detrimental because it referred to Guernsey as a tax haven.
‘It is a label we have been working so hard to get rid of and from the start the programme he is talking about the island as a tax haven,’ he said.
He was irritated by a section focusing on Customs’ enforcement which described Guernsey’s affluence attracting drug smugglers and another which showed Mr Clunes meeting Deputy Robert Sillars and being driven around St Peter Port in his Maserati sports car.
He then met millionaire businessman Peter Tom and was flown in his private jet.
‘The message conveyed was that Guernsey was a place where only the super rich are able to go,’ said Deputy Brehaut.
Deputy Sillars said he had received around 20 positive emails and calls about the programme and Customs chief officer Rob Prow said he was pleased with the message conveyed regarding what it did.
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Posh chap driving around in his posh car to his even posher friends posh place and then jetting off on his super posh aircraft does tend to reinforce the misconceptions of Guernsey.
Looks like Martin never got to see ‘Guernsey’. Not the Guernsey I know. Missed opportunity? Yep!
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I have already logged a complaint with ITV because I think it was a terrible view of the island. I agree with you Jackie, where was the views of the west coast, a snippet of our islands history, any information at all about Guernsey for that matter.
Our corner also wasn’t helped when Martin Clunes was in Sark and he asked who the last people to inhabit the prison wer and they were from Guernsey!!! Nice one!!!
Very poor television.
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Where do you live then Jackie? Around my area everyone drives a Mas and goes to the Co-Op by their chauffered jet.
Shame that the programme couldn’t have found one local to put him right – but sadly, the real Guernsey wouldn’t have been that interesting to folks overseas would it?
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I, like many watched the progamme and didn’t agree with the “Super rich” comments, especially the fact that the people that Martin Clunes spent time with in Guernsey, weren’t locals. They were wealthy people that had come to live in the island.
Would have been nice to have a bit more of the Guernsey that we all know shown in the programme with maybe something about our beaches that are so popular.
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This was not the Guernsey I know. A shame really cos it’s a beautiful place with lovely people. We should have seen more of the “normal people”.
Hoever, the bit about Sark was spot on and thoroughly enjoyable.
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Filmed on Herm for a day, didn’t speak to any residents, then didn’t show it anyway. They seemed to have missed the point of the show which was about meeting islanders, not rich people who just moved here.
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What did you expect? The media have their own agenda and will always fit the story into it.
Guernsey has a reputation in the UK as a haven
for the rich, whenever I go to the UK and say I’m from Guernsey people assume I’m rich. The media agenda for years has been to reinforce that view and make Guernsey look like a rich island full of tax dodgers.
What amuses me is the naivete of some of our politicians who fell for it hook, line and sinker. What better way for the UK media to reinforce the stereotype than to get one of our local politicians to drive the presenter around in their fancy sports car?! Perhaps they would have been better to get John Gollop to show him round by foot and on the bus. That would’ve thrown the spanner in the works of the media agenda!
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Sorry Guernsey. Sorry Herm. The truth is that Sark looked ab fab and Martin Clunes clearly warmed to the Sark lifestyle and community values.
The truth hurts. Sark is obviously a more honest, interesting and diverse destination than the rest of the Bailiwick, or even Jersey!
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I’m amazed that Deputy Sillars received even about 20 positive e mails.
I suspect that the emails were about his nice car and the camera work that made clear to everyone he drove a maserati and the excellent aerial camera shots.
Can’t see anyone, even Robert Sillars, being happy with the message given by the programme.
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Martin is a great presenter but theres no business like show business!
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I enjoyed the programme but too much emphasis was placed on the rich in Guernsey. Sark was lovely and I’m sure many people will be interested in visiting – it will be interesting to see how many more booking enquiries are made!
At least they didn’t bother going to Jersey eh?
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Oh Dear, watching Guernsey on that program, it is almost like they wanted to portray Guernsey as an episode of Top Gear, with a speed limit of 35 and full of pensioners with too much money.
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I awaited the programme with alacrity however I was somewhat dismayed by what I saw regarding Guernsey. It was difficult for me to believe that the image given was one of incredible affluence with a raging drugs scene. The opportunity was there to influence a huge audience with a good message and they dropped the ball. As for the Leopardess and its rib being the fastess boats in the island? I don’t think so!
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Lets get it clear. Is Guernsey a tax haven or is it not? Yes or no? World understanding seems to think it is. But if not, make it clear in every piece of tourism literature that leaves the island and within a short time the world will know the truth. As for Deputy Robert Sillars and his Maserati? Surely the peoples answer lies in the polls? Elect him again and you get what you deserve, right? Right! Regarding Peter Tom’s private jet? Well there you go, right before your eyes is one more very valid reason not to improve or expand the Airport..ie the ‘richer’ you make Guernsey, the more ‘rich’ it will attract. But no matter what, in the end the ‘people of Guernsey’ have the last word on everything….AT THE POLLS! If you don’t like the island the way it is, vote out the governing body that has made it that way and that body with the good governing body that you want….it’s as simple as that!
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I too awaited this programme really eagerly. I agree with everyone else – this wasnt the Guernsey I grew up in. The maserati just made me nearly choke on my tea !! It did not portray the real island life/people at all. Sark came across well – good for them! I was sorely disappointed with the overall content and am so glad I didnt record it to show my students, who after hearing me talk about this lovely place, would’ve probably thought I’d given them the wrong tape !!!
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I’m from Guernsey, and work in a UK office. I really looked forward to the programme being broadcast, but was really disappointed in the way it portrayed Guernsey. Many of my friends, and colleagues had never seen Guernsey, and I was looking forward, and had told many people about the programme. Where were the beaches, the cliffs, the hedge veg, the cows, etc etc. Sark looked beautiful, I was proud of this part of the programme. I really wish Guernsey has been looked better, a massive opportunity missed, it’s such a shame.
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I too looked forward to this show on Sunday.
Ashame he only interviewed English people, and that they drive their posh cars and pollute the world massively using their private jets to get to London.
Clune’s seriously missed out here, as he could’ve interviewed many local citizens.
“They seem happy and friendly here”
I think that’s how he ended it, probably because we are all so rich!
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I waited excitedly for this episode. What a disappointment, Guernsey was incorrectly portrayed as only a place for the super rich or drug dealers. It showed nothing of the beauty of the island, the rich history, traditions, language, food … It did not even feature any locals.
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I do now wonder if the impression that was conveyed of the other islands that clunes visited was as misleading as his potrayal of Guernsey. The Guernsey programme looked to me like an opportunity for self promotion by those involved, rather than a balanced view of the island. Even customs were apparentely telling him stories – plenty of boats over here would overhaul their rib! Must admit however that the ariel photography was excellent and that this would have sold the island well.
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Martin Clunes and producer got the programme just right, we were invaded by the Germans now we are invaded by the rich, they now are the reason I cannot aford to live in my home, Cynthia Hyam-Mooney
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The more I think about this the more this annoys me. I wouldn’t ever choose to go to Monaco because I have the perception that it’s out of my league and it’s just too rich and brash for me.
So what does Robert Sillars do? He acts like a flash playboy, swanning around with Clunesy while giving the show’s producers the clear opportunity to present Guernsey as a quasi Monaco but with a huge drugs problem to boot.
It gets even worse when you consider his department, C and E, is charged with bringing (ordinary) visitors to the island. Why on earth didn’t they just take Clunes and his mob to see the Little Chapel and field full of Guernsey cows?
As for Rob Prow, he just made a complete fool of himself by coming across like a very bad actor auditioning for a bit part on Miami Vice.
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Oh dear !
Wish I had never told my relatives in UK to watch it now.
They think we all own fast cars and private jets.
Wasn’t going to tell them, however our cover is now blown !
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As a regular holiday visitor to Guernsey I looked forward to the Martin Clunes report on Guernsey last sunday. What a letdown!! No exploration of the island, no delving into it’s history, just talking to 2 multi-millionaires and the head of customs! A ” real” cross-section of islanders, I don’t think!!
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I must say I find the heading “A mixed response” to the progromme surprising.
The Guernsey response seems not only to be 100% critical, but in addition everyone is agreed on the reasons for the response.
The amazing thing is that Deputy Sillars could muster up “about 20 e mails in support”.
Anyone know who persuaded Martin Clunes’s team to include Guernsey, and more to the point who pointed him to those interviewed.
Fantasy TV showing Fantasy Guernsey.
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The programme portrayed the island in exactly the way that we have been trying to discourage i.e. as a tax haven. Deputy Sillars must live on a different planet if he thinks that local people were happy with the programme, it was nothing short of embarrassing.
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I saw this programme and I am very dismayed that the islanders think it did not show Guernsey as a nice island. The drug boat was obviously an option for some publicity to try to stem the chancers who wish to import the stuff. I saw nothing that made me think it was not a nice place to be, and as I am coming out to live there soon, I find the only thing negative is some of the locals attitude to incomers and the anti “states” brigade. I am sure its a vocal minority, but you really don’t do your island any favours.
Oh, and “Tax Haven”. Everyone in the UK is jealous. Milk it.
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Paul Le P, I couldn’t agree more! It’s all about ratings and viewing numbers for the TV channels. They don’t actually care if they a bit obtuse with the facts, although I have to say, the is nothing like the truth to feel like a kick up the butt. How on earth that deputy thought he would be enhancing the programme I have no idea. The States needs to do a lot more work on busting the myth about the negative PR and vision for the island.
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I would prefer them to portray Guernsey like they did then show the reality!!
Cars burning, youths vandelising, locals thieving from our honesty boxes & hedge veg, States screwing over the public & squeezing every last penney from them, raw sewage being pumped into the sea & thugs getting away with biting peoples noses off with the help of one of the most pathetic justice systems not only in Britain, but in Europe…
Do we really want the real Guernsey shown on TV???…
No thank you very much….
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Jackie was quick off the mark about posh people, is this the same Jackie who made derogatory remarks about blue collar workers. Perhaps Mr. Clunes should have had nothing but them in his program.
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It’s right what you say W H Bonney. The nasty little vandals, the raw sewage etc are all part of the real Guernsey too, along with the millionaires and the flash cars, but taken on their own neither are a true reflection of the island. It’s about getting the balance right or as near to right as we can when these film crews come over.
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@Mark, if you don’t like the locals don’t come here then! You obviously have no idea.
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Roger. I’m sure the English get given a little cultural card when they get off the boat with some ‘facts’ about Guernsey
– backward
– inbred
– thick
– a colony
How to avoid them…….
– play golf, at the right club
– go into politics
– eat at the right restaurants
How to make money…….
– buy up lots of property and rent it to them
– buy their fields
– buy their vineries
– buy their shops
Your firends will be…..
– estate agents
– advocates
– any politician that likes shiny things
And don’t forget to continually remind them how grateful they should be.
Mark, don’t like what you see? Stay where you are
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I didnt see the program, but the comments are interesting. I lived in Guernsey for 4 years. All seems pretty accurate to me. It is a tax haven. But a beautiful place all the same.
Change your tax status if you want to be seen differently. Hotels and flight too expensive, arrogant locals not wanting Brits to live there. Stop complaining, you want the English’s money!
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“arrogant locals not wanting Brits to live there”
Arrogant ‘Brits’ thinking we should be grateful.
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Cor la eh!! Who woke Jackie up?!
I thought the program was spot on, you only have to look at half the threads on this forum to appreciate what Guernsey really is as an island – WH Bonney is spot on. I think we all got off very lightly.
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I was born in Guernsey it is a beautiful island I now live on the main land and I am bringing my friends over soon, so I text them and said Guernsey is on TV you must watch it, only to be disappointed by the program it did not show any of the best attributes if a special island at all
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Mark
and as I am coming out to live there soon, I find the only thing negative is some of the locals attitude to incomers and the anti “states” brigade.
how do you know they are local?
there are many rich english that come here who are negative to thier fellow countrymen unless they are rich too.
live and let live i say, wherever your from.
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Yes I run a small business in Guernsey and get told quite often by my UK suppliers “Oh you can afford it you are all millionaires over there”,yeh mate get real, we are not all millionaires or billionaires, I thought that programme was just what Guernsey people don’t want.Why didn’t they goand visit the less fortunate people of Guernsey and get the real home truth, about the hardship’s people have to face every day of there life, good luck to the billionaire I say, he seemed like a nice guy but that is not true Guernsey.
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I was a bit disappointed with the way it portrayed Guernsey but Sark looked beautiful. I might even be persuaded to visit there this summer (not having been there for 15 years as last time i was bored to tears and ended up broke as it was so expensive)!
On the radio this morning Robert Sillars was interviewed and said that he showed the film crew all over the island and also spent a whole day in Herm which they didn’t feature. At the end of the day the producer portrayed Guernsey as a plaything for the rich – his reason was that they wanted to show a successful island rather than the scottish island that were portrayed as struggling. It certainly did that – i have never seen so many posh cars (with 2 digit number plates) and such little traffic along the esplanade!
Rob Prow is local (perhaps he came across as a bit of a plonker rather than a high profile customs officer) and Robert Sillars is married to a local girl so that makes him local in my book – I have never heard of him before though so was shocked to learn he was a Deputy on C&E board (obviously working very hard there)! As for Mr Toms: good for him. He is a self made millionaire and should be an inspiration for many youngsters.
W H Bonney’s idea made me cry with laughter though! Would have been entertaining but not sure that his/her portrayal would have been any better received. The real Guernsey is probably too boring …. that’s why we love it!
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BCB, I agree fully. I don’t know if all comments are from all “LOCALS” but I do find it slightly amusing when I say the TV Prog showed Guernsey to be a nice place, and I still receive typically island mentality responses saying if I don’t like it stay where I am.
Perhaps some people should learn to read my posts and not make reactive statements based in misreading.
I am going to Guernsey whether the locals like it or not.
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Stick to comedy clunesy, its what you are best at.
Wait a minute………..
The U.K have ludicrously high tax rates, we dont, ergo to the people of the U.K we are a tax “haven”. Only us on the rock are worried about the distinction between “haven” and “low tax jurisdiction”. Although when you lay the facts out we are a haven when you compare our regime to the regime of the people that label us such.
Oh and ditch the xenophobia people, its tiresome and repetitive and the same people wheel it out over and over again whenever the UK does something they dont like :(
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Mark: You will love it here I am sure!
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Mark
and I still receive typically island mentality responses saying if I don’t like it stay where I am.
oh come on that is not an island mentality mate it`s an expression used by all nations large and small. has nobody in the UK ever said that to a foriegner who complains about your country ? from my experience and i work with a lot of english, is that we mostly get on very well together and many are good friends.
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Mark I believe we were responding to your last part of the post. “I find the only thing negative is some of the locals attitude to incomers and the anti “states” brigade. I am sure its a vocal minority, but you really don’t do your island any favours.”
“I am going to Guernsey whether the locals like it or not.”
Lovely attitude.
I think Clunes also forgot to include that our food prices and other products have a lot higher price.
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The only way to prove Martin Clown wrong is to invite friends and family to the island, Lord knows they won’t want to be going to Europe because of the state of their precious Pound and let them see how Beautiful Guernsey is and how friendly most of the “locals” are. Perhaps someone should invite Mr Clunes back and show him the real Guernsey (But keep him away from Bankers, Advocates, Politicians and the like because they only represent the island in a bad light (‘cept for our own little Diamond John Gollop!)
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Reads like the programme certainly rattled some peoples cages.
Personally I loved it. I lived in Guernsey for 15 yrs but had to leave when I wanted to move out of home as I couldn’t afford to live there on my own as I was classed as ‘Open Market’. I do miss the Island and the programme bought back some wonderful memories.
Guernsey is a fab Island and isn’t there a saying in PR though that any publicity is GOOD publicity ;) !!
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I am a visitor to Guernsey a few times every year and I wholeheartedly agree with many of the views of this ITV programme. I agree with many people that the show did not focus accurately on what the island is all about. I was expecting landscape, the people and a general feel of what Guernsey IS. It was a shame that the majority of the time shown on the island was spent on a “Millionaire lifestyle” – what benefit is that to people like me and fellow UK residents to see what the island offers? A shame because I, like so many others, enjoy Guernsey and what it offers normal people, and not for what it offers people with loads of money. A beautiful place and strikes me as how Britain was many, many years ago – well before I was born! (late 80′s) Unspoilt, tranquil and special, long may it stay untouched.
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I am from the uk and wanted to watch this programe as it was ment to be about Guernsey the island i know and love so well.With its great character,history and extremely friendly islanders.I was disappointed it did not show Guernsey in its true light,but this will not stop me coming back year after year,hoping one day to make it my permanent home with my husband so i can enjoy the beauty all year round instead of once a year.
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I have to say chaps, I must contest the views of the majority on this thread… Martin Clunes’ programme did a most excellent job of exhibiting Guernsey to the mainland.
I live in Guernsey but go to a nice school in England and, having asked all my school friends to tune in and take a look at my island home, I was dearly hoping that the producers would not include interviews with proletariat fishermen or farmers, footage of that ridiculously small excuse for a chapel, or – heaven forbid – le Grand Bouet.
However, the producer’s use of Sillars’ Maserati, Toms’ Learjet, and the continued emphasis on serious wealth worked wonders – my friends were dead impressed!
One of my friend’s daddies was so impressed with the look of the place that he is even investigating moving to the island (something to do with the mainland’s government taking away 50% of his salary, apparently…)
On my behalf at least, thank you Martin Clunes and co.!
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LOL @ Eton Rifle lmao
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just noticed this thread because it’s about Guernsey.My father was a Guernseyman, but we were never encouraged to ask too many questions,or to visit Guernsey so i think he might have been a bit naughty.I would love to be able to contact any family that are still in Guernsey.My fathers name was John Julius Frederick Brown, my mothers name was Jenny Donnelly and she was from Glasgow.My mother lived in Guernsey for a while.My sister Flora was there at the time she was only very small and my brother John was born in Guernsey.My name before marriage was Anna Grace Brown and i know my middle name was the same as my grandmother.I would be very grateful if anyone could give me any information.ps.Iknow i had an uncle Lin an uncle Bill and i think an uncle Arthur and my father would occasionally talk about some people he knew called Tobbin
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Awful program. No locals featured. No local scenery featured. Just money and shiny toys. How wrong they are.
But in response to those who think this island is rife with crime, and yobs, and vandals I would suggest you’ve not lived in many other places. And I would also suggest you’ve not come across many other criminal justice systems. The one here in Guernsey is more strict than nearly all others in the developed world.
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I agree…a totally inaccurate portrayal of Guernsey and its people. We are not multi-millionaire, Maserati driving, private jet owning, tax dodging, drug smugglers.
It sends out a completely wrong message about us, showed nothing scenic of the island, its history, industries, true local characters, or anything to encourage visitors.
Very disappointing……
Sark’s feature I thought was pretty good though.
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“… now we are invaded by the rich, they now are the reason I cannot aford to live in my home, Cynthia Hyam-Mooney”
Will nobody help this poor lady who has apparently been evicted from her home by evil English millionaires? [How does that work?] Would any ‘local’ (a.k.a. immigrants from a few generations earlier) care to speculate what Guernsey would be like if it had no preferential tax rates or finance industry? Fancy a job growing spuds or knitting vraick into guernseys for non-existent tourists? Me neither.
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Did Martin Clunes visit Guernsey.
By what was said and filmed, no he did not.
As for Robert Sillars, he should not be allowed to take part in anything to do with promoting Guernsey.
If programs about Guernsey are made, there should be Guernsey born people involved, who know its history and their Island.
Robert Sillars has shown, in my opinion, by not even apologizing or admitting,that he was mislead,
that he is a plonker and Guernsey would benefit from his resignation.
Certainly, speaking as guernseyman it may have its faults, but it is still to me (The place where uniqueness was first discovered).
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Apart from the scenery, what aspect of Guernsey do you think the States would want to portray to the UK public if they had the choice?
I’m afraid to say this is how the UK perceives us; Bergerac, and all the time we have our politicians making public statements about how we want the rich tax avoiders to set up here then that is what the media will reflect.
There are no tax havens that would want to expose the everyday reality for the majority because tax havens exist in a different version of reality to the rest of the world and so depend on propogating the ‘playground’ aspect for those that have the toys.
Greek island doc – local fisherman/traditional feast.
Channel Island doc – Maserati/Leah jet.
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My last post didn’t come out very well. I meant to convey that the PR companies that drive Guernsey’s ‘brand’ in the media are quite happy with the perhaps uninformed reflection that Guernsey is a rich man’s playground, simply because Guernsey’s economic model depends on this ‘quality’ to attract the rich. It’s a method that has served the island well for ages.
Which means that the local non-rich don’t have a PR face. Which means our ‘image’ is driven by corporate opportunism. Which means our politicians are quite happy with this. As I say, it’s working to keep the ‘not fit for purpose’ accounts looking vaguely positive (but we don’t really know), so I suppose I should be grateful.
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Arnald
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Guernsey’s PR machine travels the world promoting the island as a rich man’s playground in order to attract even more high-net-worth individuals.
Sadly, however, the reality is quite different. Guernsey – although a charming little place – is so impoverished that it cannot afford to help stricken savers in any way or even send its Chief Minister in Business Class on official business.
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i told lots of my uk mates to watch the show an i was very dissapointed at it…. it didnt really show the island as a community it self centered on the rich (may as well spent all day up fort george. it was nice to see sark ( my mums side is from sark) but where was herm an alderney, are thy nt islands too. as for drug smuggling i have to laugh as i know that part does happen as im a bouetian i know of these things but it is not all the time as with everywhere it happens, but where was the island beauty that was not shown at all
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oi eton nothing wrong with the bouet its snobs like you that make it to be bad, its rep is from the 80′s its changed since.if the island had more for the teenagers to do then we wouldnt have our wkend fun dwn there, and u know what if you took the time to see the bouet estate treats everyone like family, we all look out for each other including the old people, would you run to the shops for a old lady, would you cook the meals if they needed the help, could you get a babysitter in a 10 minute notice?? i very much dought it
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Guernsey is a stunning Island and I would give my right arm to live there- unfortunately I think I would have to- even on a nurse managers salary. Nor would we get to see the family as air fares and ferry fares are shooting up. All this is secondary to the bizarre licensing system and astronomical housing prices. This does not really invite young families to settle rather the richer older generation who may not have as much to offer.
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miss guernsey – I think you missed the tongue firmly planted in Eton Elite’s cheek. Maybe he sounded more believable than he intended?
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I am from the UK and absolutely love Guernsey!! It is my favourite holiday destination – friendly “Guerns”, beautiful scenery, gorgeous beaches, stunning cliff walks and delicious food. Yes of course there are problems just like any place but I think the good far outweighs the bad. Just a shame no-one can get there by air unless of course you have your own private plane!! I think Martin Clunes programme about Guernsey was very inaccurate.
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What an excellent program, honest and to the point. Avoiding the locals at all costs was a touch of genius and made me lol. Sark seems like a much friendlier, safer place to live. If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a million times – open up the flood gates and lets get rid of the image of 60,000 drunks clinging to a rock.
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Miss Guernsey – You are a legend, i havent laughed so hard all year
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Miss Guernsey – Thank you for posting such a positive picture of the parts of Guernsey which Martin Clunes ommitted from the program. It’s a shame they did not cover the Bouet and show what a beautiful island community spirit they have down there. I’m sure they could even hire a translator.
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