Unrepentant Hadley faces second conduct panel
Wednesday 20th May 2009, 2:29PM BST.
ANOTHER complaint has been made about Deputy Mike Hadley.
Housing minister Dave Jones and his chief officer, Steve Langford, have reported Deputy Hadley to the Code of Conduct Panel for comments made to the media.
It is the second time in his first year as a member of the States that Deputy Hadley (pictured) has been referred to the panel.
He was first reported for comments made about Health and Social Services and the panel recommended he be cautioned for the use of words that were ‘totally unparliamentary’.
Deputy Hadley was informed yesterday of the second complaint, which followed his media statement criticising the way Housing dealt with licence applications for HSSD staff.
The complaint alleges that he acted in a manner unbecoming of a member of the States by making unsubstantiated allegations against Housing.
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I predict a bi-election
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I predict obfuscation….delay….and a belated apology for ‘any offence inadvertently caused…’ If Flouquet can get away with ‘Golliwog’…..
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There seems to be a lot of back stabbing around at the moment within the states.
Where is this going to lead? States members choosing to remain quiet through fear of saying the wrong thing. Outspoken deputies spending massive sums of money on PR and lawyers so that they can pass the blame onto a third party if somebody has a gripe about what is being said.
Rather than getting on with what they should be a lot of members are choosing to pick holes with each other and achieve little other than letting the public know that they are next to useless.
I seems as though the leaders could not care less. Rather than sorting things out they would rather swan off to wherever they can and leaves the cats to squabble amongst themselves.
Somebody needs to take control and some stern words needs to be spoken. Back stabbing is not productive in any area of life.
Any chance in the CM doing his job for a change or is he to busy planning his next excursion?
GRRRRRRRRR
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In today’s GP it is reported that Deputy Hadley has written proof of the information given to him by the husband of the psychiatrist involved – so one would assume that he has permission to use it in his defence? Perhaps there was a misunderstanding along the way but i think that Deputy Hadley is only trying to do his best for the electorate.
On the other hand i think that the Housing staff have a very difficult job to do and I would assume that the psychiatrist had a high TRP as she would be earning a good salary – which may have been a bone of contention if they wanted to buy a cheaper house with a lower TRP. The local market is now becoming out of reach for many locals who are not in high earning jobs and low cost flats are being bought up by rich people so that they can rent them out at extortionate rates.
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D Jones
complains about this but supports his MATE flouquet,,, but of course it`s got nothing to do with the fact he`s one of his mates.
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Deputy Hadley is the only politician I see who is actually trying to make a change, and improve the lot of the people of Guernsey. If the others were as enthused about their work as he, we may well see improvements. Instead, Deputy Hadley has spoken out about things that EVERYONE knows is going on, that the States and various departments have been trying to cover up, or explain away for years, and he is referred to the conduct committee!!!
What a disgrace.
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Agree completely with Belinda.
Some people just cant accept criticism. Someone needs to stand up for health and social services. We need doctors, nurses, health service staff. How many wards have to close before the states will listen?
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Paul, I’m afraid that indulging in Lyndon bashing doesn’t solve the problem. As far as the “Ministers” are concerned, he has a much control over them as he does the average ice cream van. The title “Chief Minister” should also have a sub heading “And Whipping Boy”!
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Martini
out in support of your chum again i see,
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Free Speech or we become like China who have just censored a song by the Pet Shop boys!
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Martini
I fully accept that the CM has got an exceptionally difficult job to do with his position. He took it and should be up to the tasks he now finds himself in.
You are wrong in your assumption regarding control. I will concede that the point which you raised is part of the problem. A Chief Minister should know exactly what is going on with regards to what he considers himself a leader of.
He is in charge of Guernsey full stop. He should be in the position to iron out all the creases so that the government runs as smoothly as it should do.
He has to demonstrate leadership skills and enforce good order and discipline throughout the whole system. He does not do this because if he doesn’t get his way he gets childish with regards to the lack of respect he is being shown.
He has not got much of a clue of what goes on on a daily, or weekly, basis cos he is to busy chasing dreams that are going to enrich the Islands coffers in one fail swoop.
We would all wish to enrich ourselves overnight with a single mega deal. Life is not that simple unfortunately.
The biggest problem with the man is the fact that he thinks he knows best and wont listen to anybody other than himself looking into the mirror.
He represents his own ego and that’s pretty much it. He wont answer questions unless they are aggressively forced onto him and he cant get out of not providing an acceptable answer.
There are many problems within the states at the moment. A good leader will sort out his own house before swanning off chasing dreams that in my opinion will never come to fruition.
Maybe if I spend all my savings on lottery tickets I might get lucky and become a multimillionaire? Maybe I would be better off with my savings left where they are?
The man is a gambler but it is not his money to be gambling with. If it were I’m sure he would be pig sick with all the losses that he has racked up over his political career.
Just ask yourself how people friendly he is. When a problem arises he expects it to sort itself out whilst he is off enjoying the high life at the taxpayers expense.
I just wish somebody somewhere could calculate the losses this man has cost the taxpayers. It would run into more than 100 million if all his bright ideas and notions were to be calculated fairly.
How much is our telecoms infrastructure worth at today’s rates?
A pretty penny that’s for sure.
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Paul
spot on with that post,
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How would our “Dear Leader” sort this problem out?
Well, I suppose he could always threaten to “knock his ******* teeth out!!”.
That’s his style isn’t it?
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nice comments paul, i have to agree with you about our terrible cm. and all this hadley stuff, well good for him for rocking the boat and saying what he thinks, i too think it’s laughable that dave jones(has he managed to get out of that digger cab yet?) is having a go at him and defends flouquet for his gollywog gag.
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Paul,
If you seriously believe that this CM, or ANY CM is actually “in charge” of Guernsey, you aren’t getting out enough.
NONE of the CM’s has any real authority over the ministers, only the States as a whole is in the position of being able to admonish or even dismiss them. Sure, the CM can exert influence, or enlighten the Ministers about plans they may not be aware of, but to blame the CM (not just because it’s Lyndon, any CM, bcb) for the failings of a particular departments policies is wide of the mark. The CM is the Island’s political head (we have to have one, after all) who should be representing Guernsey Ltd. in any circumstance that it is necessary, be it the EU, London or Washington. As for ironing out the governmental creases, fat chance! I see that Derek Neil is still in post after being almost described as a despot in court over the Jane Stevens issue, what chance then has the CM, who has no authority?
Certainly Lyndon has his faults. Don’t we all? As a politician, of course he’s going to obfuscate and avoid questions – are you telling me he’s any different to any other politician?
What I find unfair, is constant, unremitting, broad brush, invariably inaccurate, verbal attacks on somebody, anybody. This time it happens to be Lyndon. Frankly, I’m not a fan of some of the things he does either, but until I’ve got the guts enough to step up and offer myself for the Job I’m going to shut up. Many others, who also lack his (or any other CM’s) courage, would do well to do the same.
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Deputy Jones and his Chief Officer, Steve Langford.
Oh what a pair they are….
They sit in their Ivory Tower looking at applications
‘mmm, Steve, look at this application, Master Degree in psychology, Post Grad in Management, 15 years expertise in London and has managed 150 staff for the last 10 years, and we need a new consultant for our mental health service’; CLUNK goes the Reject stamp on the 15 year licence.
Steve to Vinny Jones ‘But Mr Jones (in his Norman Wisdom accent), they are well qualified?’
‘Ah but Steve, the applicant is a woman, and not only that, but she is apparently a parent, and not only that, she asked a question in a meeting – how dare she’.
Good on Hadley.
What happened to freedom of speech??
Its funny how Deputy Jones is on this forum daily slagging everyone and sundry off for their far fetched statements, however as soon as someone who is obviously not in the boys club speaks up, they are for the chop.
What a bunch of losers we have in charge.
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I’m starting to warm to Hadley.
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Darren
Oh dear I hardly know where to start, firstly I wasn’t aware that my contributions to this blog consisted in the main of me “slagging people off” perhaps you can point me to the examples where I have done so. All licence decisions are taken by the board and none of the Housing staff have any say in those decisions and only elected deputies have a vote. If you believe that people like Deputies Jane Stephens, Sean Mc Manus, Gloria Dudley Owen and Deputy Graham Guile are a bunch of loosers then you clearly have little knowledge of any of them as they collectively are the people in charge at housing.
Deputy Hadley of course is entitled to his view, however it is Housings job to present the facts which is what we are happy to do.
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Surely “All licence decisions are taken by the board and none of the Housing staff have any say in those decisions and only elected deputies have a vote” can’t lead to good decision making?
How do the esteemed political members of the Housing Board get their information in order to make decisions?
Should they get input from the paid staff on applications, information on the law and any precedents that should be followed, along with some guidance as to awadr a licence or not?
Do the Housing department staff that attend its meetings make any contribution to the discussions on licences?
Surely the paid staff must have some say (I would prefer the word contribution) in the decision making.
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Deputy Jones
I would be interested to see, as Stephen John kind of alludes to I guess, any minutes of meetings with records of the formalised and rationalised process for selecting suitable candidates.
For example, Dave Clark was an accountant – these are more ten-a-penny than Portugese Bakers yet he still got his 15 year licence.
I have been privvy to discussions with some of those Deputies you mention, and I do not believe all of them are losers, however I will say this – I have yet to see any evidence that the process for selecting 15 year licences and approving that process is either transparent or fair.
If you care to read the post about the Portugese Baker I defended you and your bunch for once.
You are quick to quash arguments where it suits, but never put up with any evidence to queries which require data or information.
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Oh and I forgot to mention – if as you say Deputy Hadley is entitled to his view, then what is the problem?
How can he have behaved in such a ‘non Deputy’ way?
Don’t tell me, I know, he said taking a jolly to Washington at the taxpayers expense was unwarranted. Or was that China? Maybe it was a question as to where the $750m has gone on capital and all we have to show for it is an over burdened, archaic system of governance (i.e. the Deputies).
Better still, maybe he said that he felt there was no transparancy in the States and there was far too much self interest?
Good on Mr Hadley I say.
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Belinda| May 21, 2009 at 9:00 am – I completely agree with you. Isn’t it nice seeing someone actually make a decent effort for change? Perhaps a little naively, but then it is his first term in office and don’t we all make mistakes? Mr Flouquet? Mr CM? Mr Jones? or maybe not….
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Well Deputy Jones there is your answer. Its a board issue. You need someone on the board who actually understands the needs of health and social services. It is a very complex industry and unless you have worked in that sector then you wont have a chance of making an informed or educated decision. Its difficult to present facts to someone who is incapable of comprehending them. Maybe you should consider electing Hadley? -or at least someone with experience and knowledge in that area. Actually just recruiting someone with those qualities should be an eye opener for you.
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I have some e mail correspondence from ‘minister’ Jones relating to the Flouquet affair. E mails in which he is unprofessional, and where he most definitely contravenes the code of conduct. I think I will dig them out.
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Bryn
Lets see em….
but there mates so it doesn`t count..
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