Another pub’s turned to dust
Wednesday 10th March 2010, 2:30PM GMT.
A digger calls time on the Salerie Inn’s distinctive frontage yesterday. (Picture by Steve Sarre, 0929782)
GUERNSEY’S Salerie Inn was torn down yesterday.
Building work is under way to redevelop the landmark site fronted by the former pub into a block of nine flats.
The demolition has left some islanders mourning the permanent loss of another traditional pub – and neighbours facing months of construction in their back yards.
Glategny Holdings and Salerie Holdings applied in 2008 to demolish the former Salerie Inn and neighbouring Onesimus Dorey building.
The flats, with parking, will form part of a residential complex along with five Victorian-style terrace houses, which are currently under construction at the back of the site, facing onto Well Road.
National Trust of Guernsey president Roddy Dudley-Smith said that while the Salerie Inn was not historically particularly significant, their concern was what would replace the buildings.
Project architects, Atelier Bas Mooarc, have promised that the proposed developments will be tasteful and in keeping with the area.
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Sign of the times I suppose. Still, the Foresters and Jamaica are down the road in one direction and the Ship and Crown the other, so there’s still somewhere to go for a quick pint of Guinness, game of darts or a place to watch the footy.
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Darts in the ship & crown???!!!
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No, the Foresters Mick :)
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Drinking in the Jamaica……
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Maybe so Paul:
However it’s more to it than just a pub;
It’s another bit of Guernsey gone forever:
it proves what I have thought for years:
We’re not a dependency: that’s a fancy name for Slavery; they crack the whip and we are supposed to jump.
I know the usual will come Xenophobic racist etc: but how can anyone describe all this vandalism of a once beautiful and peaceful Island. It sickens one to hear and to see.
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Typical of the GP trying to make a story out of nothing.
This pub has been closed for years and nobody has shown any concern.
Why did they make it headline news?
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That’s one drink less on a pub crawl.Shame to see these old building being pulled down ,but new life will be in this area and regenerate it .
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John;
they made it head-line news, to let us Guernsey people know how Our Island is being, broken down to suit the Rich from England who instead of helping their own country, they decide to Tax-.avoid in luxury at our expense.
I hope that who ever wins the election in England they will stop this vandalization of our Island.
Also stop that false headline “Guernsey UK”
We’re not UK; and after what they did at wars end I say thank God for that.
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Lets reserve judgement until we see what replaces it.
eric, really starting to love your posts, keep it up!
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Eric – Your starting to sound like John Cleese – ‘What have the English ever done for us?’ It was a pub – and not a particularly popular one at that. OK it made a few pounds here and there, had its locals and was on the bus crawl route but its just a building at the end of the day. That whole corner (with the exception of the seafront houses)is run down, and has been really for the last 25 years. Its crying out for re-development and if it also takes a bit of pressure off the housing market and livens up the area then why not? Its not a conspiracy against us, its just investment/gentrification/business and time moving on. Please be careful of expressing xenophobic views on this open forum which is available for the whole planet to read, as it only casts the Island in a bad light – whatever you may or may not think Guernsey is not isolated! And just to head you off at the pass so to speak, i’m local – and a current member of The Peoples Front of Judeah….!
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To be quite frank, James;
“I don’t give a damn in what you think;
I still maintain it is a one sided affair the Rich get richer and the poor get poorer,
It isn’t a monetary thing either,
‘They get rich in their obscene manner of building luxury homes for themselves, most English ‘Nouveau Riche’
Now if there was any fairness in all of this, why does one be allowed to build such dwellings. when a family wishes to build 3 houses is not allowed- It’s obscene to be so judged by whom?
Who gives them the rights to dictate, did they learn that from tho 5 years of dictatorial unwanted guest’s?
All I wish to see is fair play, not good for the goose, but not the gander,
I sincerely hope that next time round this will all stop and Guernsey will have come out of therapy.
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Eric – Your posts are consistently appalling and disgraceful. Every time you comment on this site it is purely to blame it on UK and ‘English’ (although the correct term is British).
Your clearly a bitter man living in the 1920’s, but that’s fine, stay like that and keep making your life miserable by insisting on being so bitter and out of touch, but its people like you that give Guernsey and Guernsey men a bad name.
It’s a rundown grotty pub that was closed for years get over it! and find someone else to blame!
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Eric
You really are a cheery old soul aren’t you?!?
Chill out for goodness sake, shouldn’t you be taking things a bit easier?
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Mr T ands Phil:
You don’t get it do you: it’s not the grotty old pub as you like to describe it;
It’s the manner of doing things that hurts; the injustice- why should they be allowed to build luxury homes, whilst other are barred.
those that come to our Island are those who by fair or fail means have become rich; they become like squirrels they don’t want to lose their wealth, so they come to the Channel-Islands,
We are supposed to be a dependency of the throne, not the Whitehall mob.
Now if the Monarch has no ruling any longer then we are no longer a dependency and therefore we can tell those misers to Fiche Le Camp.
If there had been a little more fair play, then it might have been different, but greed is a powerful and terrible illness. and one day those rich will succumb to the illness and lose all. No one will cry for them.
As for thinking I give Guernsey a bad name is in your thoughts, what are you frightened of?
Your problem is you just lie down and let them run all over you. Or you have like many been Bought.
Do you Mr T know anything about how the English treated us at wars end? do you know how they sided with their cousins, do you know how they refused us permission to claim compensation for the damage to our Island.
Do you know anything in your little make belief world ?
You probably never had the guts to stand up and be counted. and by doing so you allowed yourself to be browbeaten into submission.
So I cry down the English (not UK) as you try to fob off, another weak paint of yours, but if I do I do it openly, not tied to your so-called justice.
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Eric, are you sure you are not Eugene as per the occasional letter in the press?
Digs – please sign Eric up as a contributor to the press for the funnies page!
I am at a loss to understand what this has to do with the UK – it was a non story yet prompts this many posts or rather one contributor generates this level of discussion.
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Eric – please can you provide some evidence to back up your libellous claims about the English ruining Guernsey? How many English people are States members?
How many English people run your ‘local’ architects and construction companies who are actually responsible for the re-development, and may I dare say modernisation of Guernsey? Glategny Holdings and Salerie Holdings sound like Guernsey companies to me…..
If you loved the Salerie Inn so much, please tell us: how often did you drink there? If you were that concerned about the place, why didn’t YOU buy it and run it as a business?
Please get back in your time machine & go back to 1945 – maybe if us English knew then the rubbish you would be spouting now, we may just leave you to be permanently occupied by the Germans…..
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Sadly our island is no longer a Guernsey person’s home as us locals once knew it.
We are gradually being shunted aside and it is the rich non-locals who are responsible.
My late father said many, many years ago that one day Guernsey would no longer be a Guernseyman’s home.
Seems he was right.
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Watm:
You are like so many of your kin; you cannot believe that your country has anything but good in it,
Get out of your fairy tale world and look around, do you believe that your great empire was a thing for good of those you enslaved? yes enslaved. your history is one great marvel to you and your land, well the Brits land, which you stole, You are Anglo Saxon.
I don’t have to give you proof- your history books does that for me and others,
I am not afraid to speak out, because I speak the truth,
Back to 1945- oh yes we remember, and remember well- we recall how we were treated as alien to your cause as we had been occupied by the stupidity or perhaps by willingly not revealing that we, an unarmed small Island. We received letter (copies of which I have) by your king saying how sorry he was: we were sorry as well when those letter arrived within days of being occupied.
Why did you stop us, (as other countries had done) trying to get some compensation for the damage, done by your cousins.
You may not know but I’ll tell you it was Guernsey that had to bare the cost of the German Occupation, not England as many thought- no you gave no encouragement to us, but always demanding more money more money, well for my part we are small but not afraid to speak up; as many of your former colonies are doing, you’ll one day rue the day you did and in some cases still do to other people’s your mad urge to own. Australia already wish to disassociate from the crown, I agree,
You helped your cousins on the road to recovery, and gave us the finger, well Maybe I’m alone nbut I do likewise with the finger.
You say it should have been better to let us remain Occupied, why say that;? we are still occupied by the Saxons.
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Eric…under which rock did you grow up? Please go to College of Further Education and learn how to write a decent sentence!! You should be glad that all the foreigners are here as they have added a bit of fresh genes to your depleted stock. It really is time for you to join us in the 21st century. Yes the war was terrible and horrible things occurred, but for goodness sake….IT IS OVER! MOVE ON!
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JS;
I grew up on a rock called Sarnia; for which we have our own Anthem known as Sarnia Cherie, it tells a story of love, adventure compassion, and above all about a place of Beauty; the only persons mentioned(if you listen) is of those who love and miss their Island
In other words it’s about all of us, not just a single person.
Now about a decent sentence, of course you mean English: Hmm Very difficult-
1) it isn’t our natural language,
2) Difficult because your language continually changes, now indeed it’s more American than English.
As for the new Genes you talk of May I ask from which country does those Genes come from.
Depleted stock, quite true. Because in 2 wars we weren’t afraid to help you out.
As for the 21st century. Why.? when your country still lives in it’s Empire days, when Bwana was boss and you treated and called grown men BOYS.
Then you last bit really takes the biscuit, what do you know about the war, it’s horrors- one of the facts you might have had to put up with was the shortage of Underwear,
So stop ranting on about things that are only hearsay to you, try being understanding of the way things are;
‘Why for example are you in Guernsey away from your paradise of a country, be honest (if you can)’
I’m a good listener, but detest b***s***.
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Eric…If Sarnia Cherie states compassion, maybe you should listen! I am not from England, but am a Guern. I however cannot stand this xenophopic rubbish you keep coughing up. I have a problem when people speak such utter rubbish in my name. There is nothing wrong with being proud of who you are and the culture that is yours, but to keep ranting as if 1945 was just yesterday is madness. Yes…there was suffering during the war. Yes…Guerns have strong feelings about this. Yes…some may feel agrieved by this. But to live in the “dream” of bygone days does no one any good. The whole island speaks English, except for you apparently! I cannot help but wonder when people like you will realise that time has moved on and to keep harping on about things that happened 70 years ago serves no helpful purpose whatsoever. I note that you have a gripe about the German gentleman from Sark who was recently honoured for his SERVICE to Sark. I am convinced that the gentleman in question has done more for that island than you have ever done for yours! From now on will you please state that when it comes to the rubbish you write on this forum you do it in your name, and not in the name of Guerns…It saddens me to no end that attitudes like yours still exist in a world than can do with more tolerance and respect. I am proud of my heritage, just like you are, but I will never accept that intolerance like yours has any part in my culture.
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Well JS:
at least you are honest in your reply.
Yet if you look back, you’¨ll nhote I was not the one who brought up any of these subjects, however I do reply to them.
I cannot answer any of your questions, not because I don’t want to, but because other reasons which is my personal reasons.
Therefore it is unfair to keep you lingering, so sorry and all that; you have said your thoughts, and I respect that.
Would that I could tell more. but I am honour bound to remain silent:
In so doing I must therefore accept the wrath of others.
Therefore A Votre bon Santè a la Perchoine.
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eric – you are right in outing the rich as powerful movers against the common man. you are wrong in thinking such movers are never local. plenty locals (there is a strong kernel of local dynasties that have used their wealth to rule you for donkeys years – even if only by avoiding tax). such ruling classes have something broad-minded in common – they have no problem in crossing boundaries – look at multi-internationals. your enemy is class-
based eric, not based on race or nation.
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Oh no!!! A PUB!! Not to a pub, please don’t deprive us of a dank pit to get drunk in!!
Where will we go? What will we do?! Oh no, I’ll actually have to go home after work, and sober at that! I’ll actually have to look at my children, and maybe even enjoy their company.
Oh God, NOOO…. there must be another one somewhere!
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Such a shame……..a tradional looking pub that could have a modern looking seating outside looking across the water-such island life feel. DONT BE SILLY whack up some more glass fronted crap and sell it for stupid prices, its just in keeping with the island!
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Could it be that Eric just needs a Pint !!!!!!!
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Oh dear:
Is that how it affects some?
My word the real one was nearly right anyway, I refer to John Smith.
But not a pint, but a nice tot doubled of real Cognac.
eric smith alias jones
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First of all, an APOLOGY in advance – to all the reasonable intelligent Guerns who read the following, it is not aimed at you or others like you, or the island itself. This is purely for the one small-minded person who I believe actually lives in la-la-land.
So, Eric, following your ideals, how about this for an idea: every single non-Guern leaves the island, taking every single penny they have with them and every single service they provide.
Now, there will be no-one to staff the hotels but that doesn’t matter as there will be no tourists. Why? Because all the evil rich foreign airlines & shipping companies have withdrawn their services.
There will be no banks as there is money left in them as all the evil rich foreigners have taken it with them, save for maybe one holding the locals’ cash. But then mass unemployment will mean a shortage of money so the bank will shut soon anyway!
You will have no transportation – except maybe an old Donkey! – as there is no way of importing vehicles to the island due to no ships or airlines coming, but that’s ok because all the evil rich foreign oil companies have closed their garages so there is no fuel for them anyway! & that also means no fuel for boats or oil for your central heating.
There will be no telecommunications as all the evil foreign rich companies have withdrawn their services, so there will be no way of contacting anyone anywhere by phone or e-mail, no TV or radio & no website for you to complain on and no newspaper for you to write to!
There will also be nothing to eat as all the evil foreign rich stores have pulled out and all the goods and foodstuffs provided by them (no means of importing things either remember!) – but that’s ok, you can live off the tomatoes that grow on the island.
& do you think “that’s ok, we can build our own boats fuelled with will-power to go to the UK, France or anywhere else to get our goods”. Sorry Eric but it doesn’t work like that – you see all the evil rich foreigners won’t allow you to enter their countries or sell you things in retaliation for your actions against their nationals by kicking them & their businesses off your precious little rock.
So, to summarise: No communication with the outside world. No food. No heat. No fuel. No money. No building materials. No clothing. No services. No utilities. No idea. No hope.
Now, how long do you think Guernsey can survive with NOTHING, except your ideals and some tomatoes? It’s not such a rosy little picture you paint all of a sudden is it?
As for you repeated comments about claiming compensation from England for the occupation, I thought you didn’t want our money? Or do you just want the cash, and all the people who provide that can just go and rot?
One last thing: and I quote your earlier reply to me directly – “you cannot believe that your country has anything but good in it”. First of all, at no point did I say that. But hey, at least we are capable of being self-sufficient – something that Guernsey isn’t, wasn’t, never has been and never will be. So lets face the facts: YOU need England an awful lot more than WE need you.
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Eric:
I have noticed this before with you, your historical references are inaccurate. It is for this reason that you have such an out-dated view of international relations. Please, do some homework!!
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Well I have to be honest,this all made great reading and I even put the Auto,Motor Sport magazine down!
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WATM_
Do you often write such fairy tales, tut tut, such a long tale with no tail to it.
You try to impress, sorry you fail miserably,
It’s that attitude that is to your disgrace.
You write as if you owned that land now called England.
Once the Romans had left, then you took a chance, on an already weakened Britain, and took over.
You never owned it, but as you have done throughout nthe centuries, subdued people to your ways.
It’s you who should read your history, but above all other countries histories.
Your books try to tell us how you were angelic in dealing with other peoples.
Your excursion from Bristol took you to Africa, and then took people to America; were they the first Tourists or 1st settlers.
I had no argument with England, but the tricks you played on us was so appalling that I decided to put in on paper; are you denying all I say?
Your little speech proves my point; you firmly believe the world would collapse if England was not there, Poor soul. rest your weary head, the sins I have caused you must hang heavy on your conscience when you come with such poppy cock as you have worked up:
Take it easy, live man live, and allow us to decide whether our hotels have waiters or not
As for our Toms, well they are also known as LOVE APPLES.
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Truth Man:
If I have misquoted history, at least you should point it out:
Or don’t you know either.
If I am wrong I am willing to admit it.
are you willing to elucidate.
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Oh for goodness sake!! Eric is truly living in his own world. Can we all just ignore him, because if he keeps churning out such drivel my PC will melt! As far as I am aware no one forces a local to sell his house, business or anything else to a non-local( Eric…see Englishman). Is it the guy paying who is greedy, or the guy selling? No one forced Guernsey to have foreign labour! It was needed! Some people always complain about the non-locals doing this or that, but never mention the local involvement at all…yet it is the local who takes the money. This is a thank you for all the “infiltrators” from foreign lands (again…Eric…see Englisman) who contribute to Guernsey…as long as you pay your way you are more that welcome here! At least your money helps the lazy ones to stay at home, sit in front of their computers and write nonsense. Ohterwise they might have to actually go out and work….heaven forbid!
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Well well JS.
Would appear that something has touched a nerve somewhere.
Or else you like to see yourself in print abusing others.
You fail to see the point of my postings; It is not the ordinary English people I get at, but those who arrive on our shores to dodge paying his lawful due to his own country.
How else can you describe it;?
To locate a business or bank account to evade the tax is how it is printed in newspapers;
Then tell me JS (without letting off steam) who is lying? Newspapers or the ones who re-locate.
You Harp on about : ‘without England we would perish)
Against all odds, and with the enemy occupying in force, we survived. England was nowhere in the vicinity. IT’S FACT JS.
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If as they seem to assume we are with England and it’s laws ( to a certain extent) then it shows that the ruling body has no Idea how to rule. They allow those tax evaders, and still say it is not a tax evading place.
Most continue to moan about the Airport, you want it improved! then cash out a bit and you’ll get an airport,
They want better refuse disposal, Well Apparently England is so clever, why can’t they come up with a suitable unit, and help pay for it.
Complaints about sewage, and rightly so, it’s a disgrace, however who will pay.
Many of these things could have been accounted for, unfortunately we are trying to right
the many wrongs done by the Huns.
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can we get back to the pub please?
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We can’t Baphomet. It’s gone…..
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Ah Baphomet;
alas it is a pub with no beer-
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Not been on here for a week or so and boy what I have missed. Where did this Eric guy spring up from?
I haven’t laughed so much in ages. His rants are priceless. I though Arnald and Pete Burtenshaw were good at winding up the forum, but even they slip up now and again and post something sensible. Keep it up Eric, you’re brilliant.
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Bogart:
You know it takes a bigger fool to recognise a lesser one.
However I’m sure you’re a nice feller deep down. how deep is up to you.
Yet you know all those who try to belittle me (take note, Try) I will say this.
You really have no idea how Guernsey was when we were in the middle ages just pro 1940 that is; a happy Island, welcome to all.
Then the dregs arrived; they let their (Own) country be destroyed and come and try to destroy ours.
‘Many of you can’t see that, they give you a few coloured beads and you’re happy.
Well I want more for our Island; I am not against them, but wish only that they mind their own business, and not interfere with our Island’s ministration.
Those who now rule should be kicked out, and a more reasonable band of People with Guernsey at heart.
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Eric,
After picking myself off the floor, I found I had no time to type a full reply to you. Please keep posting though, sounds like Bogart and I need the laugh!! Love and peace.
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Well Truth man.
Makes me happy to find you are enjoying yourself, and of course with, as is usual a cover for not answering the ? ABOUT historical DATES.
however as you seem to enjoy yourself in your own little world of mirth, I leave it out.
I will not write further on this blog, after all what’s the point you all seem to know the answers. albeit many of you weren’t even born, but you know—
The will to hide behind statements you cannot understand is all so easy.
However one day you will realise that the moon IS made of cheese–
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There must be some kind of delusion inducing plant on this island that he keeps getting hold of…there really is no other explanation!
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Bogart
Your post is perhaps more valid than I first thought. Arnald appears to have vanished from this forum, however someone else has quickly taken up the mantle with regard to making long, nonsensical posts.
Arnald, you haven’t taken on yet another identity have you?
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Phil
Maybe Arnald’s exit from the forum is a sign of Technophobia?
Eric has certainly stepped in well though. He should start publishing his own newspaper to pour out his xenophobia. The Island’s answer to the Daily Mail.
Bearing in mind this thread began with the topic of a pub, he’s certainly developed it into a conversation akin to those which groups of people find amusing after a few hours sitting in one and becoming less lucid.
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Phil
Please don’t disturb Arnald.
I reckon he’s been ordered by his ulcer doctor to ease off the anti finance bile for a while.
I genuinely hope it’s working.
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No Eric, please don’t go.
I for one appreciate a fellow true Guern’s opinions.
The tax dodgers arrive as visitors and once they have their foot in the door start ruling/ruining our lovely island.
I daresay that whatever monstrosity replaces La Salerie Inn will be for the benefit of such people and priced well out of the reach of us ordinary hard working Guernsey folk.
Do any of them know or even care about the area’s history? I doubt it.
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CheesedOff
I understand that the ex Sandy Hook Chalets are now available to the ordinary Guernseyman starting at £425K
January 2010 England average £214,003
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I’m still here, don’t worry.
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Salarie was deralict for years! why the outcry???
Oh grumpy old “guerns” objecting to any sort of change per usual.
I think the seafront is looking attractive. A nice change from crumbling old warehouses/hotels/pubs which lay empty for years. What a nice site for our tourists to see when coming into the island’s capital. And also something nice for us to look at whilst stuck in traffic!
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cheesed off at al – give me one true example of a non-local tax dodger (as opposed to a local tax dodger – plenty very wealthy guerns employ every accounting trick in the book to avoid tax)that has started ruling this island. as i told eric – it aint where you come from that gives the power, it’s how wealthy you are. you will change nowt flying your local yokel flag.
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We all know whats going to be built in place of this pub, luxury flats commanding some of the finest views that you will find in the British isles, commanding some of the highest prices found in the British isles.
James writes and tells us that its investment/gentrification/business. What that actually means is, the dear old pub made a few million over the years but that’s not good enough, the dear old pub has to go because the developers who owned it want to make a few million in 18 months.
That doesn’t benefit you James, unless your a shareholder in the company or in some other way on the payroll, or me or my sons and daughters who, on an average wage, can’t afford to get on the property ladder. It will benefit a few wealthy enough to afford the commanding views at the commanding price.
I did, on the other hand on occasions sit in that dear old pub and enjoy a quiet pint with friends and probably had a good moan about how the island was going to the dogs, how every thing I new and loved about my Island was being changed, ripped down and replaced by glass fronted office blocks and ugly flats. That did benefit me as it could have done every Islander of drinking age, not just the few who could afford the view.
Alas, its all clear to me now James, its investment/gentrification/business and I need to move on. Unfortunately I hear the words move on all too often in my house. I hear the words “move on” from my children, usually in the same sentence as, New Zealand, Canada, Germany, and they are all skilled workers and for the record, my family has lived here for countless generations.
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Yes Ray, that’s right. Many of us locals can only afford to ‘up sticks’ and purchase property anywhere except our island home.
Lynnie – that’s terrific! Why would tourists want to see office blocks and luxury flats? Surely they’d be more interested in pubs, restaurants and hotels? They don’t come over here because they want to look at offices and luxury flats. How ridiculous! Tourists want to enjoy our island and what it has to offer which is sadly becoming less as time goes on.
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@CheesedOff
What so ambandoned pubs are much better for the eye? No, what tourists want to see is an attractive island. They turn the corner at the salary and there are umpteen number of attractive pubs/eateries and few yards in the other direction and you have yet more cafe’s/pubs/bistros. How many more pubs can this island take for it’s size? I hardly think they will be left wandering like lost souls in search of a pint.
I agree, it is terrific. In the good sense of the word :)
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Lynnie. I don’t see the word abandoned anywhere in my post…
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Nor did I say you used it CheesedOff I was merely stating that the pub had been abandoned and left derelict for the last few years and to have that there instead of something serving a purpose and being attractive (in the eye of the beholder) is ridiculous.
The fact is businesses struggle in that area due to the busy road and how difficult it is for pedestrians to cross. This was stated as the reason for The Rowen Tree closing its doors and a fact that everyone who has dared to cross that corner know all too well.
If they do make the area into apartments then this will increase the pedestrian traffic and I only hope that they put measures in place (A crossing perhaps) that way new businesses (cafes, pubs etc) will develop and strive.
Please don’t feel that I’m singling you out CheesedOff I merely replied to your previous post.
I can’t help but feel that there is an element of not wanting to adjust to change and hang on to days gone by just for the sake of it. I see that you have already decided that whatever is coming in is monstrosities therefore have already closed off your mind to anything new happening!
Unfortunately we can debate until the cows come home (as we still have cows, I’m sure you’ll be pleased to know) and will have to agree to have differing opinions.
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Lynnie
I cross that road twice a day every day and i can assure you it`s a doddle;). The round-about end i would say is a bit more of a task though.
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Ah bcb I’m sure that is due to commuting to work rather than deciding to visit one of the pubs on a daily basis? Not commenting on your drinking habits of course but you do it out of necessity rather than choice I should imagine. I appreciate that you are a self aware individual however with buggy and toddler in tow can prove to be a tad on the krypton factor side (not to mention when you want to take the dog out!). I feel worn out by the thought of it.
Some sort of pedestrian crossing along that stretch is needed I feel. Especially as the area develops in whichever business.
Sorry, seem to have gone off track there for a moment.
Pro change woo!
:)
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I accept that you were not singling me out Lynnie.
I must say though that I have not closed my mind at all to change. The pale granite building with the arches standing where The Savoy used to be is a fine example of architecture.
What I object to is Guerseyfolk being gradually pushed out of their island home.
I also feel that if La Salarie Inn had been refurbished as a pub then it would still be enjoyed by myself amongst others.
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Cheesed Off:
Your comments are indicative of a grumpy old Guern who hates change just because they hate change, and if it is a non-local who is involved in the change then you enjoy hating it and complaining about it even more. Luckily, you are the minority. Most of us can see the wood for the trees.
By the way, it is not your island.
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Lynnie
i was only commenting on your original post as i think you were makeing it out to be a bit more than it actually is imho.
But you are right about crossing with a buggy or young child, I think any large car park where many people will need to cross should have a crossing near by. Safety first.
I only drink once or twice a year but when i do i sometimes have to go on all fours, safety is low on my list at that point;).
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Truth Man
I grumpy old Guern I may be but I’m a Guern born and bred and proud of it.
So Guernsey folk are not entitled to call Guernsey home? That’s your opinion and you entitled to it as I am mine.
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‘I daresay that whatever monstrosity replaces La Salerie Inn will be for the benefit of such people and priced well out of the reach of us ordinary hard working Guernsey folk.’
But CheesedOff, what if it’s a nice pale granite building with arches?
And if that is not making your mind up about something then I don’t know what is!
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Sorry maybe I misunderstood but I was under the impression, according to the GP article, that flats were being built where La Salerie Inn once stood. I doubt very much that these flats will either
a – Be built for first time buyers
b – Be built in keeping with traditional architecture
c – the building will be built on the style of a bank as per the pale granite building
Hence my comments that they are bound to be beyond the reach of your average Guernsey person/young couple starting out.
So I like the building with the arches, is that wrong now too?
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Cheesed Off:
Whether or not locals and non locals who live here can call it home is irrelevant. What you said was:
“The tax dodgers arrive as visitors and once they have their foot in the door start ruling/ruining our lovely island.”
It is not OUR lovely island. It is for all of Guernsey’s residents to enjoy, local and non-local alike. It is no more yours than it is a person who now lives here having been born elsewhere. And if in your opinion the only thing Guernsey has going for it is the positive tax benefits then perhaps you don’t hold the island in such high regard as non-locals do!
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I know what I said thank you very much.
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Cheesed Off:
Based on your previous reply, I can see a conversation with you will simply go round and round in circles.
I think I made my point, and I note you did not respond to it.
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