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GG

It’s because PSD always set out to look for incineration, they never look at the other alternatives. I think it’s worth it, so we don’t have to live with an incinerator for years to come.

On another note, how was the turn out this morning, I couldn’t make it.

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Smoke Signal

Lyndon Trott should be forced to resign over this.
Our Tax Payer money wasted, it’s disgusting.
If you were the boss of any company and told the board you had lost 11million just on tenders heads would roll.

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Dave Jones

The first thing to say is that a substantial amount of these costs went on preparing Longue Hougue for any facility that was going to be built there, An electricity sub station had to be moved at the entrance to the site and the road widened amongst other site preparations, that is not wasted money as the site is already being used as an inert land reclamation site and whatever facility eventually goes there this preparation work would have had to be done. You also have to remember that this massive land reclamation is adding millions in land value to the States of Guernsey what would you think that site would be worth on the commercial land market? The revenue from that inert tip alone went a considerable way to off setting the costs on the tender process for a solution you also have to remember that even back at the time of the Lurgi proposals the tip fees increased year on year to cover the costs of the procurement process and many millions over the last ten years since that abortive project have been recovered but of course that is the bit the you are not being told because it doesn’t suit the argument for scrapping the Suez proposals. Now I am not trying to pretend for a moment that money has not been wasted on going completely in the wrong direction on this issue but as I said a huge amount of these costs have already been recovered by those who dump their waste in all our landfill sites over a long period of time, I agree with David on this we would have been burning millions more over the next 25 years locked into a contract that was not the best deal for Guernsey. One other thing I want to say is that we are NOT as some would have you believe starting with a blank sheet of paper, there has been a huge amount of work done already on more intelligent solutions so we are not having to re-invent the wheel. We have the Dadd report and the people’s panel report together with reams of ideas and proven solutions on waste minimisation and waste reduction from places already doing it successfully. I believe that we can minimise our waste considerably and then treat what we have left with some small modular solutions like Anaerobic digestion together with a small Pyrolosis Gasification plant to deal with the rest, the important point is that neither of these solutions will produce a highly toxic by product (toxic ash) that will cost us many millions over 25 years to deal with.

Our rubbish only becomes rubbish when we mix it in a black sack, in many Scandinavian countries they keep all the packaging from consumer goods separate and dry, it is sent for re-cycling which just leaves food waste and disposable nappies etc which at present is little more than about10% of our entire black bag waste, so if we don’t contaminate the dry recyclables by chucking food stuffs and other nasties on top of them, then the amount of actual rubbish will be vastly reduced. We can do this as a community; we certainly do not need to spend the thick end of 100 million on an incinerator. Everything else can be recycled, wood, furniture metal, aggregates, plastics and the usual household item such as glass, tins, cans, milk cartons etc. We can also recycle masses of commercial waste and turn it into useable products for other industries there are several web sites that can show you how this is done. We have to ship an amount to Jersey until we get our solutions up and running and I am not opposed to that for a very short period say 3-5 years if it is possible but I know one thing there is a real determination to get behind Scott Ogier on this by a large number of States members and I believe we will start to formulate a workable waste management plan reasonably quickly once all the obstructions have been removed.
Finally I know this was a hugely contentious issue and there are strong opinions still on both sides but the legacy we leave our children and our grandchildren is hugely important to all of us and I never thought that legacy should be incinerator shaped.

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