Terminated tenants are running kiosk ‘illegally’

Thursday 15th April 2010, 11:30AM BST.

Left to right, Gary, Anais, Lynn and Kiara de Carteret outside court.  (Picture by Steve Sarre, 0902977)

Left to right, Gary, Anais, Lynn and Kiara de Carteret outside court. (Picture by Steve Sarre, 0902977)


THE proprietors of Pembroke Bay Kiosk have no right to be operating it, the Royal Court heard yesterday.

Crown Advocate Philip Nicol-Gent said Gary and Lynn de Carteret had been served notice to quit in September and, by not doing so, they were occupying the site unlawfully.

The de Carterets are contesting the Treasury and Resources Department’s attempt to evict them from a property that they have used for 15 years. They argue that a letter they received from the department following a meeting in May 2006 showed that they had a 21-year lease.

Advocate Nicol-Gent said all negotiations in 2006 had been subject to contract and there would have been no agreement until signed documents had been exchanged.

Mrs de Carteret said they had never refused to sign a lease but the draft ones sent to them had been ‘littered with errors’. On one, her Christian name had been spelled three different ways.

The case continues today.

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  1. 1
    simon

    People of Guernsey is this how we want our taxes spent? Poor Mr Nicol-Gent, I bet this turned up on his desk and he thought “OMG what am I doing this for, I thought I’d taken a job as a crown advocate”.

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    GG

    Best of luck to the De Carterets! It just goes to show how bad the States Departments are, spelling a name different each time! It’s not like they don’t employ many either.

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    Eric

    Have the States no shame?
    Why this witch hunt every season?
    What is behind it all?
    What you, The States, are doing is not in our name:
    If you can’t treat our people with their due rights, then you had better resign;
    My wish is; if you succeed in getting your own way; then I wish the same sentence be passed on all who wish this loathsome act to succeed

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  4. 4
    Martino

    To GG and Eric, are you perchance related? The same negativity, the same mildly xenophobic, oppressed little guern, all you outsiders are destroying our way of life themes evident throughout your various postings…
    Just wondered???

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  5. 5
    Eric

    No Martino.
    not related, and have no connection whatsoever.
    But we seem to have something quite foreign to you-
    Compassion-
    And a feeling for an Islander being squashed by outlandish ways of these days.

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  6. 6
    GG

    Martino, seriously what are you on about with “xenophobic”, I haven’t said one thing against foreigners here, I personally believe the States have made the wrong decision, and it’s not for the first time either!

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  7. 7
    simon

    GG
    If you want to know what Martino is on about try looking at your various postings on this site.

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  8. 8
    Lindsay

    Is there any reason why a Notice to Quit was served in the first place apart from the legal technicality that no Lease is in place? Does the States object to a kiosk being run at Pembroke? If the States are happy for a kiosk to be run, why not simply issue a new Lease or License Agreement and have the matter resolved?

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  9. 9
    Greg

    Looks to me like the de Carteret’s only fancied serving the public when they felt like it!

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  10. 10
    Paul Le Page

    The title for this article is quite dramatic – are the States going to send Arnie to Pembroke packing the Uzi 9mm to say “GET OUT”?

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  11. 11
    simon

    Paul Le Page
    Thats pretty much about whats happened, isnt it?

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  12. 12
    JamieC

    So is the lease for the kiosk up for grabs? Or has it already been promised to someone who’s friend’s friend works for that same States dept.?

    1) Why is the lease not being renewed to the the same experienced people?

    2) Given the profligate waste of the States, they can hardly claim that there’s more money from another tenant or that they are doing this for financial reasons. From the State’s perspective, the kiosk is a benefit to visitors of the area, nothing more.

    3) How much has this case cost us taxpayers, and who authorised it and why?

    We will never know, because no-one will demand to know.

    Quite frankly this is exactly the sort of back-biting witch-hunt that has made me and a lot of other Islanders leave in utter disgust. And my family had been in Guernsey for nearly 400 years.

    Officers of the States – you should be ashamed of yourselves…some of you really are disgusting.

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  13. 13
    CO

    It’s probabaly going to re-open as “Trotter’s Teas”

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  14. 14
    Helen

    What a sad state of affairs that its come to this, the Guernsey States are an insult to the people of Guernsey! Yet they are quite happy to pay someone on a weekly basis for doing absolutly nothing apart from roaming the streets, but a hard working family trying to fight for something they paid for many years ago get this sort of treatment., Its not right.

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  15. 15
    Steve Le Cheminant

    I’m waiting for the stories in a few months,”Families in beachwear turned away from the bunker, for inapropriate apparel”.
    You know it will happen.

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  16. 16
    Gary

    hav nt the law officers nothing better to do with there time than to pick on a hard working Guernsey family, who are providing good old local service, they should be spending there time studying these contracts that they draw up properly instead of costing us tax payers millions of pounds,well done Gary and lyn and your family for standing up for your rights against these people who don t know the guernsey ways,

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  17. 17
    milton

    I SUSPECT A LOT OF WHEELING AND DEALING WENT ON TO GET IT REMOVED TO MAKE WAY FOR THE TOMB NEXT DOOR

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  18. 18
    milton

    I SUSPECT ANOTHER KIOSK WILL NOT GO THERE

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  19. 19
    Emz

    GG – You really are the most ill-informed repeat contributer on this site. You are persistently xenophobic and appear to believe that Guernsey may exist in a bubble and does not benefit from inevitable population migration or anything that the States of Guernsey or its employees achieve. Perhaps I am paraphrasing and missing a subtle point? Various contributors have noted, often, that the Press is not regarded highly for its balanced reporting? Once again, there are many facts not brought to light in this matter.

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  20. 20
    Ray

    milton ( small m )

    I suspect you forgot to switch off your ‘shouty’ button

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  21. 21
    Ray

    Emz

    Good though he is GG will need to improve a thousand fold to wrest the Prix d’Honneur from Arnold

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  22. 22
    GG

    Cheers Emz. I’ve been really xenophobic in this news article haven’t I, all these foreigners running this kiosks, ruining for the locals. Darn the foreigners eh… hope you get my sarcasm.

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  23. 23
    EMZ

    GG – It was a general comment about how ill informed yet opinionated you often are. I hope you appreciate that there is no sarcasm whatsoever in my reply. “I believe in total freedom of speech” – there, that’s a little bit of sarcasm, at the risk of lowering my States- employed, foreign self.

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