School walking route ‘ready by September’
Tuesday 20th April 2010, 2:29PM BST.
Living Street members with representatives from Barclays Wealth, which has donated £7,500 to pay for fencing for the proposed school walk for St Sampson’s High. Left to right are Deputy John Gollop, chairman of Barclays Wealth Charity Committee Guernsey Keith Le Parmentier, Pat Wisher and island director of Barclays Wealth Ken Bradley. (Picture by Peter Frankland, 0954418)
Despite opposition from some landowners, the road safety group plans to start developing the route within the next few weeks.
The charity has been able to push forward with the work following a £7,500 donation from Barclays Wealth.
Living Streets secretary Pat Wisher said the donation was vital as it would pay for fencing that will border the route through the privately-owned vinery that the group will rent.
Planning permission to develop an area at the vinery was passed by the Environment Department in September.
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I am astonished that this project has got off the ground. How anyone can think that this is providing our children with a safer route to school is beyond me. It is not overlooked and there is no CCTV. This will make it the perfect place to encourage unsavory behaviour such as bullying and the selling of drugs. I honestly feel any child would be safer using the public highway to get to school and the objection at a recent meeting that objectors would rather see a child killed is absolutely ludicrous.
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Which Parish will be required to provide street lighting for Perv’s lane?
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Aren’t you both over egging the perv pudding a bit?
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Neil
As sure as eggs is eggs it will happen
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I don’t recall mentioning anything about ‘Pervs’
There are already reports in the paper of children being drunk at school and the gangs – this will just give them a secluded area where they can carry on with this anti social behaviour unobserved.
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MC – I don’t get your final point – you say there are reports of kids being drunk at school and gangs. Surely if this is the case then the priority should be taking action there – after all if they can’t control this behaviour in their own back yard, what hope is there off the school grounds?
You suggest that this lane will assist antisocial behaviour because it is unobserved. what’s your solution? a CCTV camera on every street corner or in every isolated area on the island? Should we install CCTV cameras on the cliff paths – they’re not overlooked? The reality is that kids that want to be antisocial will be antisocial – if not there than somewhere else.
Besides, we need to get out of this mindset of ‘cotton wooling’ our children and be grateful that Guernsey is relatively safe in comparison to many areas in other parts of the world. Sure, a lot of unpleasant things happen here I don’t deny it but there is not a paedophile, drug dealer or potential assailant on every street corner. I’d rather my daughter walked to school and gets the health benefits from that then live in constant paranoia.
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PLP
I agree the action should be taken at the school to address the issues, however until it is sorted we should not encourage it by providing them with an environment where it could flourish. I am not advocating placing CCTV cameras all around the island, and agree that our children should walk to school and get the health benefits. But what is wrong with walking to school along the streets where they can be seen from houses which has got to be much safer than through a quiet lane that is not overlooked.
Finally I agree with your ‘Cotton Wool Mindset’ comment. By giving them a lane is not encouraging them to learn Road Safety, thus wrapping them in cotton wool?
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Your ‘cotton wool’ comment had some validity MC – I notice someone on the other thread mentioned that the students would be at least 11 years old and therefore should be perfectly capable of walking along a pavement.
I would certainly be inclined to agree with that comment.
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I Quote:
A SAFE walking route for Baubigny Schools students “will be” completed by September, Living Streets has said.
“Despite opposition” from some landowners, the road safety group plans to start developing the route within the next few weeks.
Another idea, decided upon without actually listening to the opposition..
Has “IDC” or whtaever they call themselves these days, approved these fences being erected too ?
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Oh another point.. we taxpayers paid out for new traffic systems in the surrounding areas, crossings, lights, one way ststems,cycle tracks, illuminated slow down signs, was this all a waste of public money, if living streets wants the school kids walking through a secluded lane ? leaving all us motorists to pay 4 times the amount in petrol, as that has doubled in price too, to drive twice as far, use twice the amount of petrol, and take twice as long or more if ur stuck behind a cyclist that is going the opposite way to the cycle lane, than we used to. Thats my rant over for today. !
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“Perv’s lane”?
Where is a child most likely to encounter a paedophile?
a) on a path on the way to school
b) in their own home
If you think the answer is a) – I suggest you do some research. Most sexual abusers are family members or friends of the family. It’s an unpleasant fact, but a fact nonetheless.
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Oh, well said David. And as someone who makes the effort to cycle to work (and is therefore probably so inconveniently ahead of you), can I say thank you to you for driving round in your car, creating congestion, pollution, noise, and helping to use up our finite supplies of oil and contribute to global warming at the same time?
Remember that parking place you found when you last went somewhere by car? Drive cyclists off the road into their cars (because most of us do have cars too) and suddenly you’ll find it isn’t there, as the ex-cyclist has got there first.
And don’t get me started on the contribution of cars to road traffic accident injuries and deaths, or the increase in obesity.
There. My rant over too.
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James
I think cyclists create more congestion and pollution( pro rata) on this Island than motorists(excluding buses).
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Well said, David and MC.
James – if it’s you holding me and everyone else up in the mornings, just think how much fuel you are causing us to waste.
Statistics* prove that 99.9% of accidents are cyclists’ fault. Motorists that have been stuck behind a bloney cyclist for miles suddenly hit the accelerator with much more aggression than before, or are driven to drink. The other 10% are caused by buses being too big for our roads, and the remaining fifteen percent by women – either being too pretty and distracting drivers, or just by being rubbish drivers.
*invented for convenience like most of the others used on this site, and possibly inaccurate.
It’s a nice walk – maybe the school’s nature trail? Likely to become a rat run for cyclists and four-wheel-drive types.
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