Valnord residents’ parking loss anger
Saturday 31st July 2010, 11:30AM BST.
RESIDENTS of Valnord Hill are angry to have been given only a few days’ notice to quit an area of land they have parked on for many years.
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Shame they don’t live in States houses, I hear it’s quite easy for those in States houses to have their front garden knocked down into a car park.
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Did I read this article wrongly? are these people actually whingeing because they won’t be allowed to park on someone else’s land?
Just because you have done something for years does not give you any right to continue! They seem to have been very lucky to get away with it for this long – and as for their comments about little children and pets being in danger – well, its up to the parents and owners of the pets to take a bit of responsibility for a change and not let them hang around on the roads!
Perhaps they could sell their vehicles and buy a bike – that way, there would be no need to whinge eh?.
Oh, I forgot – they probably work in Town and have to commute.
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If the residents have legitimate concerns about access by the emergency services, they have every right to take this up with the Environment Department.
As for the parking issue, I can understand them being a bit miffed that their free parking spaces are being taken away but as far as I can see from the article Portholme haven’t done anything legally wrong. C’est la vie!
The full article also stated that the group was considering the Clameur de Haro. Correct me if I’m wrong but surely this would do nothing more than delay the inevitable? I cannot see how the Clameur can be raised against a landowner for preventing people (who have no legal claim) from using their land. Ironically, if anything Portholme would have more right to raise the Clameur against the residents for denying them use of the land (once they’d owned it for a year and a day of course).
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the residents are stuffed, methinks, as property developers, as usual, use their wealthy clout to achieve their goal. the non-wealthy residents are absolutely not whinging – they have lived in the street for a long long time (while the portholme faceless have no sense whatsoever of what it means to live in such a street) and these residents are part of the community – their community. they should not be treated as numbers, or peasants, as sarnia expat’s dismissive post makes them out to be. expat – are u really an expat? if so, why poke your nasty nose and slag off ordinary people in ordinary streets who have had the courage to standup to being railroaded by mega bucks? they are not asking for the world.
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ah this is stupid. Everyone that has purchased a property in this area or rents were made aware of the “turning” point! So stop moaning! I mean its a rubbish area so these people knew parking would be limited! They want to be able park between the hours of 5pm-7.30am well they cant really as the new builds going up will own the parking therefore they cant park there as cars will already be there, and as for children and pets in the road, good to know the parenting skills of the people that live up this road to allow their child to play out on a road, excellent!
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Oh Blah.. would the resi’s of Valdnorski let me park my bike on their front step? don’t think so. So why should they expect to be able to park their vehicles on other people’s land?
Yes they are whingers. Get over it and move on.
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Sorry blah but this has got nothing to do with “class struggle” – it’s simply a dispute between a landowner and a group of residents who want to use private land as a parking space. If I had lived in a house for 25 years and my newly moved in neighbour happened to build a swimming pool, I wouldn’t expect to be able to wander over and swim whenever I liked. This is no different, I’m afraid.
I wonder if you would be saying the same thing had a private individual bought the land? Also don’t forget that at some point the new builds will be sold and people will move in. Will they not be part of the community too?
By all means, if there is an concern about emergency access, raise it with the Environment Department. As for the car parking, as I said before, c’est la vie.
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plep – ok, not my best rallying call to the barricades i grant you. but the residents do not need the abuse some posters gave them – too easy an target, especially when the press lined them up so gently against the wall – last cigarette ladies? but listen, why are you so ridiculously reasonable? when are you gonna get angry then? goodness knows there’s enough stuff around to get passionate about? do you always just pass a perfectly rounded comment, and let it all happen, ‘cos god’s will be done’, and never try to change nowt? why not try to turn people’s comfort thinking zones on their heads sometimes? the majority of the perspectives expressed here are safe, stuck and born of self-interest.
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Have I been reading a different thread? Maybe “whingers” is a bit strong but other than that???
I’m only seeing abuse from one poster!
I think branding the residents as moaners is perfectly valid, the press have certainly lined them up, but from the limited information given, the residents seem perfectly happy to be making these quotes.
This is a cut and dried case, if they owned the land and there was a forced repossesion order then yes by all means complain away, clameur’s ahoy!!
But to moan when an item that isnt even yours is taken away……
Perhaps if many people around Guernsey didnt feel such false a sense of entitlement, such a sense of anger at not getting a piece of the pie, they would think rationally and arrange their own land to park on.
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Blah – it is precisely BECAUSE there are so many more important things going on in both our little world and the wider one which makes me despair at the narrowmindedness of some people. Why take on the Courts for something so pathetic as a lost parking space? Do something more valuable with your time – march for the end of the war in Afghanistan, or against poverty in this island for example.
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I find it quite comforting to live in a place so peaceful that the local Press has to fill their paper with such ‘stories’
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Blah – I loved reading your post! All I can say in response is you obviously have never met me, or my wife – who has to endure plenty a tirade from yours truly!
I actually get angry at quite a lot of things – child soldiers and blood diamonds are two of my pet hates, which I’m glad to say aren’t issues covered by the Guernsey Press. One day perhaps you will have the joy of reading a proper good old fashioned rant, but it’s unlikely to be about issues like this. :-)
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sarnia expat – fair enough, but there are common values in both the big and small stuff -it is all structural, not isolated. e.g. island poverty is linked to the level of distribution of wealth – and you might argue that wealthy property development companies could be more fairly taxed, to help alleviate that poverty? i concede that business has to thrive to some degree to be taxed in the first place, and that these residents have to lump it with the law clearly against them. but this is a small scale example of how change is brought about by economic forces with no social consequence factored in. admiral park is a bigger example and one which the island is still divided on.
plep – i’ll believe that when i see it (or when your wife backs you up). though i do slightly regret calling you boring during one of my old ‘lash out in all directions’ moments!
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