Four hurt in Houmet crash
Thursday 16th September 2010, 11:30AM BST.
The roof comes off the Toyota so its injured driver can be removed. (Picture by Steve Sarre, 1028863)
FOUR people were taken to hospital last night after a silver Saab collided with a Toyota Starlet at 10.40pm on a corner near the Houmet Tavern.
The Saab 9-3 Aero had four people in while a 74-year-old woman was driving alone in the Toyota.
Firefighters had to cut her car’s roof off to free the woman who had back pain and concussion.
The front seat passenger in the Saab, a 21-year-old man, was complaining of back pain and was also put onto a spinal board.
Two rear-seat passengers, females aged 17 and 19, were also complaining of back pain and nausea. The driver of the Saab was unhurt.
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This artical is clearly seen as youngsters thinking they own the road once again!
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And the 74yr old women is now the proud owner of a convirtable!!! question how many daffodils does it take to cut and hold the roof of a car??? answers on a post card please…
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Approximately 10.30pm along that stretch of road – yup, an accident like this has been coming for a long time.
Same time just about every night young people, driving like nutters without a care for any other road users.
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Has anyone considered that maybe it was just vtec kicking in?
Hope all involved are ok
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I just love how everyone has jumped to the conclusion that it is the young drivers fault!
If it were a middle aged person and a 74 year old involved, the 74 year old would be blamed.
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Must be the young people’s fault, right? After all, since some speed, they all must, and therefore they deserve to be in some sort of crash?
Some young people do cause crashes, in the same way that some young people are anti-social. So do older people cause crashes and be anti-social. But the majority of young people going about their business lawfully and peacefully and helping neighbours doesn’t sell papers, so you won’t read it here!
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Once again people like L Brehaut, jump to conclusions.
Tell me, how was it growing up without teenage years, and being perfect your whole life.
People make bad decisions, accidents happen. All we can do is think of the people affected and hope all are well.
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I can assure you that there is absolutely no doubt who was to blame, and it wasn’t the 74 year old lady. I am sure this will become apparent when there is a prosecution – which there had jolly well better be!
The residents of the immediate area have been raising concerns about the standard of driving along this stretch of road from about 10.30pm onwards for some time now.
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Ah, how great it must feel to sit behind the rose-tinted windshield installed in the cars of the older generation…
Hope all involved are okay.
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Ah Eh, so your telling me that you ran a door to door survey and were told about the standard of driving?
Or have you taken as fact anything that is written in our local rag?
Im sure there will be an investigation, and possibly a resultant prosecution, but lets leave the finger pointing to the (more than) capable guernsey police.
who obviously due to the concerns and reports from the “residents of the immediate area” were patrolling the area regularly.
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i think my money is on Eh’s prediction, but he will need to take it back if the police investigation shows the alleged kevs were not the cause of the crash. but this could easily have been another fatal RTA. and the fact is most serious RTAs are caused by those in the 18 to 25 age group. it is easily supported by insurance companies – compare the average premiums of a 20 yr old and a 70 yr old and see who is the biggest risk.
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Like you lot have never broken the speed limit before. Just because it’s a young person you all automatically assume it’s kevs.
It could of happened to anyone, young or old.
Have you lot got anything better to do but to sit here and complain instead of thinking about the people involved and their
health
SORT IT OUT
Thinking of everyone involved.
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Eh:
With an attitude like that, I am glad you have nothing to do with our judicial system. Let’s face it, there absolutely is doubt that the younger driver caused the collision. We have no idea at all who caused it, do we.
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Glanstar – like the police have time to continually patrol everywhere where there are such issues! The residents have been asking for cats eyes and chevron signs etc to highlight the corner.
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Eh it’s not a fact of ‘we dont know there’s a corner there’ – i think those speeding around those roads are quite aware of the fact that the road has bends in it, and chevrons / cats eyes / any kind of additional road marking would be a total mis-use of funding.
Funny you mention police patrols though…
North Beach manages a patrol an average of around every 15-20 mins pretty much every single day of the week from around 9pm onwards, checking that the PARKED (that is to say ‘non-speeding, happy, sociable petrol-price-discussing) ‘kevs’ don’t have their foglights on, and that they’re parked in the relevant bays. They readily dish out fines for all manner of petty offences such as these, but seem to completely forget that these cars are sat there, causing no harm at all, with the occupants happily socialising amongst other friends.
Perhaps our local boys in blue need to get their act together and start making their presence felt along the infintely-more-dangerous coastal roads? It is an extremely rare occurance to see any kind of police vehicle anywhere on the coast after 7pm unless they are responding to an incident, and I think this is the ultimate reason behind many RTA’s. If motorists were aware of the fact that the Police were cracking down on those speeding anywhere other than from North Beach to the Bridge then maybe Eh might get a decent nights sleep.
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Look at the photo, for goodness sake. You wouldn’t get carnage like this if everybody was pootling along at 25mph. No wonder we have so many serious accidents when the kevs have so many supporters around the island. And when one of these young idiots writes himself off there are the inevitable ‘tributes’ saying what a wonderful young man he was. I’m just glad when they don’t take an innocent member of the public with them. This is our home not a race track!
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I would like to reply, but I think the person above has pretty much covered it all.
And I would share Truth Man’s sentiments completely.
Once again the finger pointing members of our public start throwing around accusations willy nilly.
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“compare the average premiums of a 20 yr old and a 70 yr old and see who is the biggest risk.” Insurance premiums are not a valid way of seeing who’s more of a risk, for example how many times has a coffin dodger pulled out in front of you? All ages can be dangerous behind 1 ton of metal.
The way that the press has reported it makes it sound like the yooof was the guilty party, but I wasn’t there….nor were any of you, so we can’t really pass judgement on it can we?
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Every one definately jumps to the conclusions that it is the young persons fault.
Fair enough some accidents are. But since none of these people commenting were there at the time….you cant judge.
so as someone said leave it to the ‘more than capable guernsey police’ to find out and think about the health of the people involved.
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I wish the Police would come down hard on these ‘Kevs’, yet again last night between 2030 and 2230 (although it is most nights) in the North Beach car park there must have been nearly two dozen cars being driven at speed in and out of the car park, back firing, wheel spinning and pulling doughnuts. The police need to get down there and once and for all sort these people out. How many more innocent road users need to be killed/injured before this problem is eradicated?
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I was there, I saw what happened and I can assure you 100% that the comments made by Eh are correct.
Having seen it, it is my opinion that this incident was entirely the fault of the young driver, who, approaching the corner way too fast, hit the elderly lady’s car forcing it off the road.
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Truth Man – I happen to know exactly what happened – I am not making judgements here.
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Of course we we mustn’t prejudge the outcome of the police enquiry. It might be that this 74 year old lady set off on a mad rampage in her Toyota Starlet and bounced off a car full of innocent youngsters on their way home from bible class. Or, since this was around pub closing time, possibly the Saab 9-3 Aero kevmobile full of youngsters was at fault? I know which I would bet on but we shall see.
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Saints:
I wish the Police would come down hard on these ‘Kevs’,… How many more innocent road users need to be killed/injured before this problem is eradicated?
Er, would that involve the police getting up off their backsides in the canteen? Forget it then.
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I wasn’t there so don’t know what happened. But I would like to make a suggestion of what might have happened, based on my experience of following behind elderly people driving.
It’s quite possible that the older person was pootling along in the middle of the road, no concept of what’s going on around them and glides around the corner in the middle of the road with the tyres straddling the white lines, not giving a though to the fact that there might be another car coming in the opposite direction.
My husband and I were following behind someone the other day who was going at about 15mph and still had to practically stop everytime a car came towards them. I’ve lost count of the number of times a car has pulled out in front of me off a yellow line (or the white ones on the Bridge) without looking to see if there is anything coming and they are normally elderly people behind the wheel. Don’t blame bad driving on the young, it happens to every one.
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Thats actually my Gran involved in that crash – Its Pretty obvious what happened when you see from the press artical.
All jokes a side, Of course when your teenagers you just dont have the respect as a middle or older person would have on the roads, its even more fun when you have a car full of friends with you to put your foot down!
Wishing my Gran a good recovery and hoping she manages to get to Exter to get the best treatment.x
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Eh, so you were there at the time of the crash? Pray tell you version of events.
Beanjar, so now were throwing round unfounded accusations of drink driving. Excellent.
And a saab, definately a kevmobile. My grandmother drives a saab, i can assure you that is no kevmobile.
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Eh:
Seeing as you know ‘exactly what happened’ would you like to please tell us all what happened from both perspectives at the momment of the incident? To just settle this once and for all.
I would also like to know how you were in the Saab and in the Toyota from before and after the incident took place? Can you care to explain where you got these magical powers seeing as you claim that you know ‘exactly what happened’.
Oh.. Wait.. I think you may also need to look up some definition of the word ‘Judgement’. I don’t think the comment ‘Same time just about every night young people, driving like nutters without a care for any other road users’ – I think that’s pretty judgemental eh?
Reminder to all: A RTA can be caused by anyone at any time at any place. Can everyone remember that before being so prejudice about the whole situation and blaming and accusion anyone, accident DO happen and you LEARN from your mistakes. I’m sure everybody involved has had a wake up call, the old lady, the young driver, the police, the residents etc…
Anyways, I look forward to hearing a reply from you.
Regards,
Eh Heh?
P.S. I’m not taking sides. I hope everyone involved are all safe and sound.
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VQ, well stated.
I don’t think we can make any assumption about anything. All I’m saying is that there is evidence both ways, and therefore we will have to wait for a conclusion from the police on what happened.
I just think that this finger pointing culture is not good on such a small island, and wild unfounded accusations, like the above made about drink driving, do nothing but fuel speculation.
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L Brehaut – Hope your Gran makes a full and speedy recovery.
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VQ, you are right that there are a large number of bad older drivers around. But when it comes to outrageously dangerous and suicidal antics that does tend to be where young drivers excel, you only have to see the death toll every year. Have you not seen how many young idiots lose control of their vehicles at speed and smash themselves against stone walls, parked cars and other road users?
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Oh the age old debate rearing its ugly head again – Kevs vs Coffin Dodgers.
Fact is, everyone screws up. Young people crash, old people crash, get over it.
Unless I’m talking to the cast of CSI or about 10 different Road Traffic Collision Investigation Officers from the Guernsey Police (God love ‘em) I dont think ANY of us are in a position to make judgements whether we have the claim to fame that we were there or not.
No one had a multi-angle super-slow-mo camera recording the event, so lets leave the trained professionals to finish off their meals in the canteen, and *hopefully* get some work done to give us a sound conclusion.
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The police are too busy stopping sex attackers.
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In what I have already stated, is my opinion, (the need to exercise caution with how one says something) it is quite clear and obvious what happened without having to be in both cars at the same time!
Yes road traffic incidents (accident is hardly the correct use of the word) happen to anyone, anywhere, BUT there is almost always someone at fault. I accept that sometimes both parties are at fault, but in this instance there is little doubt (in my opinion).
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I use the words ‘incident’ and ‘accident’ to cover both grounds.
Until a real conclusion is drawn, I will use both words as to whether it is either. I will use both terminology for now thank you.
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Recently i was driving behind a young lad in a fiesta by Perelle Garage and an old lady was coming the other way, she completly missed the corner and went straight into the guy infront of me…
Old persons fault!
The problem being the young are easiest to blame when yes alot do drive round like idiots but then again many old people arent capabale of driving properly either!
Also an old lady flipped their car going up victoria road… nothing happened! If this was a young driver they would have done time off the roads, very unfair laws due to age and it needs to be sorted out!
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Glanstar
… saab, definately a kevmobile. My grandmother drives a saab, i can assure you that is no kevmobile.
Is this the one your dear old Nan has?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI4PsP_BbEo
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At least that’s one less idiot I’ll hear screaming the t*ts off his/her car around the north of the island for a while. Well, probably 9 to 12 months anyway. This summer has been the worst for years but I have not heard a single police siren or seen a single set of blue lights flashing in pursuit. And, yes, before the youth chime in, some of our elderly drivers are pretty horrific too, but generally not in a high speed sense.
A shame that another driver had to suffer in this particular case.
But what are the deterrents? All the stuff that’s been discussed before: higher fines, lengthier bans, car confiscation, fixed speed cameras, on-the-spot fines, raise the age limit for driving, evidence to the VRLD of eyesight being checked when renewing a license, points system leading to time of the roads, police issuing notice to insurers of driving convictions….. the list goes on.
But what happens? Nothing.
SSDD – Same s**t, different day
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Can i just Add that 21 Is NO LONGER A TEENAGER !
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its always down to blaming young people which is so wrong i was riding a bike the other day when i was cut off by a guy in his 50′s owning the road in a Aston Martin
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Given the amount of money that insurance companies pay to analyse road safety figures, driving trends and such and such I’d say if there was any way of saying who is the greater (Overall) danger on the roads, insurance premiums would be a good place to start.
Afterall you dont go into the insurance business blind do you??
Bigger risk, bigger premium, simples!
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But Eh you have not stated it was your opinion you stated:
” I happen to know exactly what happened…”
and
“I can assure you there is absolutley no doubt as to what happened…”
You also referred to the “incident” as an accident.
You by all means can have your own opinion and that doesn’t need to be backed up by fact but yours posts eluded that you knew exactly what had happened without telling the rest of us how. Perhaps you should have preceeded any post with the words;
“I reckon…”
or
“I think…”
but hey this is just my opinion on the matter ;)
I’ll wait for a tad more info before I draw my own conclusions however.
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If the word ‘accident’ is not the correct use of the word, are you implying that the driver of the Saab made a beeline for the Toyota? Intending to hit her?
Once again, more excellently founded allegations.
I think a lot of points made here are sound and valid. But lets leave the investigation to the guernsey police please.
L Brehaut – Best wishes to your Gran, it is most unfortunate that she was involved.
And that is exactly what this is, an accident, bad luck.
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I love the fact that the very first post, targets the young driver! what about the 74 year old, could it not have been them?
I remember reading a report about the old man that ran down a lady with her pram along cobo RAN HER OVER but its alright he’s old, we’ll let him off! If I had done that being in my late 20′s I would be called a Kev, Wreckless, Dangerous all the names under the sun! OLD PEOPLE need to be seen to! I watched one fly thru a filter the other day, now that could have caused an accident but its alright their old!
People need to stop targeting younger people and wake up to the older generation!
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Beanjar
You are quite right that there have been a number of accidents involving younger people recently. However, the comment my husband made to me when we were driving behind the older person who kept slowing down when a car came towards him is very appropriate.
He said, you can just imagine that bloke in front boasting ‘I’ve never had an accident in my 60 years of driving’ To which I replied ‘No, but he’s caused hundreds’
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The car was overloaded. Look at all those firemen getting out of the boot.
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Every time I read a report of a collision attended by the fire brigade I find myself looking for the sentence … ‘ firemen had to cut the roof off to free the driver’
I wonder if sometimes they just like a real life practice with the tools in the box
Don’t get me wrong boys, if ever I get walloped by a Kev please feel free to separate his head from his shoulders
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I love the fact that someone knows exactly what happened. this would make me think that Eh must be one of the drivers? so please do enlighten us Eh! which car where you driving? the legendary kevmobile or the Toyota?
Or maybe you were standing right on that corner?
Agreed – younger ones are lot more reckless than elder people, but younger people usually have MUCH better sense of speed, direction and reactions!
not saying all old people are bad – I have seen many elder folk show signs of immaculate and brilliant driving; same applies to youngsters.
But in this case the younger person will be to blame; this has always been the case and always will!
L Brehaut – i wish your Gran fast recovery, hope everyone else is safe and sound too!
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tooxar – thanks for that, made me snort out loud!!
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I think that time will show who is right and who is in the wrong here. (I hope so anyway!)
I am tired of repeating myself now, off to a more interesting discussion!
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Food for thought dear readers – did anyone consider it could have been Glanstar’s gran taking her grandchildren home?
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So these Police… people moan about other drivers and want the Police to deal with them. But when it’s they who get dealt with, guess what? Why aren’t the Police catching the real criminals? As for sitting in the canteen all day and never going out, how often do you think the Police get to have a meal break? Not very, I reckon.
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Very true Spotted. It was not, but there has been no mention of the Saab driver, only of the passengers.
Eh, as far as im concerned there is no right and wrong, with regards to blame and fault.
Id claim more the way that comments on this article have been handled, and peoples speed to point fingers.
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@EH the debate wasn’t about who is right and who is wrong it was about jumping to conclusions and trying to pass something off as fact when it was only your opinion.
The youngster may very well be to blame but thankfully he’s not put on trial by you who would see him hung, drawn and quartered before considering the other side of the story.
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Beanjar:
Have you ever been in a police canteen?
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I can’t believe how so many judge young drivers! Not all of us speed around every night being stupid and not all of us are kevs just because we have decent cars! In fact in the 3 years iv been driving Iv not once had or seen a incident with a young drive but plenty with the elderly. Like tuesday wen a little old lady who couldn’t even see over the steering wheel must of thought her accelerater was her brake an tryed pinning me against the wall! How hard is it too look both ways when pulling out??? Common sense really!! But I suppose it would of been my fault since I’m young. Fire star is sooo right there are cameras in north beach so why do the police have to patrol there constantly when they obviously know that the ‘kevs’ are gonna be along the coast since so many people have already complained about it!
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Saints, exactly how many people have been killed or even injured by the kevs’ antics down the North Beach?
I’m not defending lunatic driving on the roads but pulling a few doughnuts and backfiring their cars on the North Beach when it’s generally only them and their mates around is not putting anyone in mortal danger.
Yeah it’s a bit childish and you could argue that judging by the state of some of their cars, a lesson in car aesthetics by the style police might be in order but I don’t see that it’s a priority for the real ones!
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All off you need to stop pointing fingers and give it a break. I was involved and to me all you lot do is moan about young people. Fair enough it was our fault but give it a break!! None of you know what it was like!!
And it wasn’t a 21 year old driving that was a passenger!
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Don’t you think it’s great how when there is a traffic incident in Guernsey everyone and their mum, their mum’s gran and their gran’s dog pipes up to put their point across when they clearly have no idea what happened. Most of the people on this thread must be middle aged as they automatically point the finger at the younger driver who is NOT always to blame in an incident!
If you’re going to going to make rash comments get your facts straight first…
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My girlfriend along with my freinds was in the saab and i think this beanjar person needs to get a grip !!!!! no 1 was drinkin at all jus because its young people again u automatically assume there is drink involved ur pathetic yes it was the younger drivers fault and he has held his hands up to it and said he deserves the punishment he gets fair play to him !! but like other people have said older people cause or nearly cause crashes too but the majority of people on here jump staright to the old “its kevs all kevs” u lot must think ur are so perfect in ur perfect little worlds and like my friend said a saab isnt a common car u’d see down north beach but u lot think cause it a young person oh its been lowered its got a exhaust blah blah blah ha ha u lot!! the driver was jus a normall young person hu works hard every week to earn his money and loves to cruz around in his car yes he put his foot down a bit hu hasnt?????? id love to actually meet these perfect people on here i really would I WANNA BE YOU GUYS!!!!
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i personally think when you get to 65 you should have to re-take your test every 5 years.
not only have the roads changed a lot since year dot. but when you get to that age your vision, hearing and reactions start to go.
Old people think they own the roads over here and think that because they have been using the roads longer than us they have the right to drive in the middle, pull out etc
OAPs have all day to drive slow whilst spending their pension. but we are all out working/ at school so the only time we get to go out and socialise is in the evening.
there is nothing else to do in this island than to go driving. if everyone is so worried about it why don’t we get a move on with building this big cinema?
stop complaining about the ‘KEVS’
(just for clarification i do not sit at north beach and i have a ford fiesta 1.2 with a broken clutch – so i don’t speed either)
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I think people need to consider both side’s of the story here! Yes the saab driver was probably inevitably speeding and yes was very foolish but there was an elderly lady involved, she very well could have been the wrong side of the road!
In regards to insurance premiums, its nutters like these people (who ever was to blame) that bump up our insurance each year! More police are needed!!
Also may i add, how many ‘kevs’ are going to learn from this? Not one of them, they will continue these ‘races around the island’ until when?? is it actually going to take for a member of the innocent public to be killed before anyone learns? When are the police going to step in and catch these ‘kevs’. They should be taken off the roads for alot longer than ‘the one month’ oooh think thats taught them!
I hope the saab driver has learnt there lesson about speeding.
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i think that slowly people are seeing the facts here, age is no valid reason for causing accidents i’m pretty sure for every one teenage Kev there is some in there are older people doing the exact same thing age makes no difference what so ever i speed my parents speed even my nan speeds !
the “older generation” just need to stop blaming kids cause its obviously not just us.
not every young driver who crashes is speeding most are just inexperienced ? Think about that !
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my my how twitchy you young drivers are. folk are not condemning all young drivers just making the point that a disproportionate (typed that straight off again!) percentage of young drivers cause rtas and end up in hospital. cheshire & merseyside stats 2004 / 2005 for one example – 35% A&E attendances following rtas were age 15 to 29, only 12% were 60 plus. ps – coffin dodgers is an offensive term.
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Hi.
Thanks L Brehaut.
We wish Gran well too. As for everyone else, this was the fault of the ‘younger’ driver being a berk! Funny how several people have said 10.30 is the time that they felt there would be an accident! I live at Rocquaine and some nights, usually around 9.30 the Kev run comes and I can tell you someone is going to die!
It’s high time the police monitor these areas in unmarked units to catch them. They know the times of when they are traveling. Shouldnt be too hard!!!??? High time a stinger was introduced also!
So my message to the police is…..pull your thumbs out of your … and start catching these maniacs instead of putting the radar on those of us traveling to work in the morning for an easy catch!
For everyone else…just take a look at the photo at the top…it doesnt take CSI to figure out who hit who! Grans car isnt even on the road!!!!!!!!
All the best Auntie P.
GD.
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Paul Le Page – You are missing the point. These ‘Kevs’ are congregating down at the North Beach car park then going off on their little circuits at speed around the island. I can think of quite a few people who have been rundown or struck by the Kevs and these ridiculous antics. Who ran into the seawall at Bordeaux last night?
I’ve seen quite a few very near misses involving speeding cars on the North Beach car park involving people driving/walking to get a ferry or collecting their car, and what a great first impression for any visitor coming off the Condor of an evening to hear these morons, not to mention the litter in the form of empty fast food containers they leave behind,plus the impromptu football matches they hold down there, anybody with mysterious dents in the panels of their cars who have parked there of an evening in the North Beach car park might like to know about these antics. It’s not people in their 60′s or 70′s doing these things, it’s the younger generation with their usual self centred attitude that are to blame.
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Ray, your comment is extremely ignorant and offensive to the fire service.
I am not a firefighter but I have used the life saving tools they use to remove roofs from cars for various training I have done, my dad is also a firefigter.
Maybe you would like to put yourself in the position of a driver after you had an accident which may well have been your own fault. If you are complaining of back and neck pain would you rather the ambulance and rescue staff tell you to get out of the car and stop moaning and risk leaving you in a wheelchair cos you have broken your neck? or would you live to suffer the inconvenience of writing to your insurance and buying a new car?
On most if not all occasions the decision to remove the roof of a car is made by ambulance and rescue because they feel it is necessary to prevent further injury to the patient. you probably cant imagine the amount of planning and skill that goes in to removing the roof of a car but then again you have probably never attended the seen of an accident to see the distress that people suffer.
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For the record, when I mentioned that the crash was ‘around pub closing time’ I never mentioned drink driving. In my mind’s eye I actually envisioned an immature youngster leaving a pub with his mate in the passenger seat and two young girls in the back who they were trying to impress with a bit of roadracing. Whilst I don’t profess to be psychic, nothing I’ve heard so far has indicated that I was far off the mark.
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Scott
I sincerely hope your firefighter dad is not quite so ‘precious’ as you seem to be
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Beanjar:
Your wrong pal.
I was the passenger in the front seat and one of the girls was my fiancee and best mate!
The driver is also my best mate and I no he didn’t have one sip of alcohol that night, he wasnt actualy trying to impress us with road racing!
Your not psyhic your judgemental!
You need to stop jumping to your silly little conclutions!
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I find the comments hear ammusing, yes it is correst that some young people drive like idiots but its also true some old people drive like idiots, as some1 already said it is true people should have to retake there test as they get older, but knowing all parties in this case i am pretty sure the 74 year old would have passed. some of the young drivers who are commenting on hear should also be very carefull as i dont think some of you realise how well you know people who are affected by this incident and how much your childish comments may upset them.
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Wow
I was going to wait until some official statement was made before I made any comment about proprtioning blame on this, but boom, all the hard work by young drivers defending their ilk has been blown right out of the water, so the saab was at fault then.
Thats it, regardless of how slow the old lady may have been driving, lets face it, if it was another similar bunch of kids going in the opposite direction, there would have been multiple deaths.
Theres no defending that, I’d even go as far as custodial sentences, lunatic drivers are the scourge of many of Guernsey roads around 11 at night, a precedent needs to be set, throw the book at these louts, none of this “well they have leart their lesson” PC garbage, throw the book at em, make other young kids think twice before hitting the throttle.
I remember being young, and having fun with my mates in the car but I dont remember being a comeplete idiot though and putting anyone elses life in danger, I must be soo boring to you adrenaline junkie “its only fun if were putting our own and other peoples lifes in danger” brigade
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So, you put other people in danger, caused what could have been a fatal car crash through irresponsibility and no lack of testosterone, and we are supposed to give you a break, what if one of your passengers had died, are we still supposed to give you a break??
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Sometimes I wonder if weaning a generation of kids on realistic video roadracing games was a good idea. Realistic, that is, up to the point where they cause a massive collision, everybody dies and the driver has to uses his ‘extra life’.
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You oldies are so funny, hilarious infact.
I bet none of you ever had a few pints and drove home when it wasn’t frowned upon ;)
You lot are the ones that continue going 25 in a 35, and moan about that you got over taken by some “kev”. hahaha
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oh my god, GG, who are you today?
Never mind my speed, I can never keep up with you, one minute you’re a responsible adult with (varying, it seems) professional careers/quals, sometimes you’re a girl, sometimes a boy (sometimes not sure…?) and today…*drumroll*…
you’re a wannabe Kev!
Seriously, it’s like you’re Mister Ben (that you may/may not remember, depending on how old you are today), every time you enter these forums, they miraculously change you into a different character.
For the record, I’m still me, still loathe Kevs and irresponsible, inexperienced idiots driving souped up cars they can barely afford the insurance on, let alone drive, and are incapable of driving under 60, and not a particular fan of people who are way past their sell-by date, who should have been off the roads years ago, can’t drive over 20, and should have started taking the bus years ago.
ps well wishes to the lady involved, hope she gets well soon x
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