Beachwatch Grand Havre harvest includes bike, radio and clothing
Monday 20th September 2010, 2:29PM BST.
Joseph Dowinton, 8, and Holly Hepworth, 6, with the RBSI Beachwatch team. (Picture by Steve Sarre, 1029692)
A RADIO, a rusty mountain bike and various pieces of clothing were among the items recovered from just one of the island’s beaches over the weekend.
Volunteers were out in force clearing rubbish from the shoreline as part of the Marine Conservation Society’s annual Beachwatch initiative, a national event coordinated locally by the Environment Department.
One of the teams was made up from staff of the Royal Bank of Scotland International and its contractors, OCS Ltd and AFM.
About 15 people collected 20 bags of rubbish from Grand Havre beach and common in front of La Route de L’Islet.
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Good on them. This puts the unemployed and people on benefits to shame. Instead of giving these people money for doing nothing, maybe the states should only pay them for a decent days work, like cleaning beaches, roads etc. This would cut down on paying extra people to do this and at last the lazy will be putting back instead of taking out.
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matt l – ok let’s instantly turn a piece on the environment into a blunderbus and ignorant attack on unemployed people. unemployment benefit claimants receive that benefit if they have paid into the social insurance system, not otherwise. most are claiming because companies made them redundant.
your attack would be better focussed on the polluters – most are selfish beach users, shipping companies and fishing companies.
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blah. Obviously hit a nerve. What I was saying that it would be good before any money was given to the worthless drunks sat on the benches they contributed to society. Same goes to the Parents on the social, they can be contributing when their children are at school.
Any way, good on the folk which gave up their time to make improvements.
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Most people claiming benefits are single mums who dont work ‘as they dont have to’ as i have been told many times and teenage lads who would rather sit round all day and not get paid..
Most of them have never paid a penny to social insurance!
I agree with Matt L – Very good idea!!
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Oh dear blah, you haven’t much of a clue at all have you? I say you’re the ignorant one here.
The majority of those on unemployment benefits have never paid a stamp yet think it’s perfectly acceptable to scrounge, not otherwise.
Matt L has got a very valid point.
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Matt L. My sentiments entirely.
Too much is given to people that sit around doing nothing.
OK, this is not intended for the genuinely sick people but strictly towards the lazy, ignorant down an outs that think it is ok to sit around doing nothing.
Make them do something to actually earn there cash,like everyone else does………
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Matt L – Ironically enough, it is an attitude like yours that will ensure the present situation continues. I agree that welfare should be mixed with the discipline of personal responsibility however that has to start with the belief that everyone has value and potential – something that will never happen whilst people like yourself continue writing your fellow human beings off as worthless.
Yes it frustrates me that the welfare state is content to simply hand out money to people who then blow it on booze. In my opinion it is an abdication of responsibility by the state as they are basically paying drunks to shut up, stay out of the way and slowly kill themselves – rather than investing real time and effort into rehabilitation.
Is it really surprising that many long term alcoholics don’t think they can contribute to society when that is precisely the message they are being given week in week out?
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to the national socialist reactionaries – your rants against beneficiaries are nonsense, just poisonous opinion without any fact, science or proof. give me the numbers of the unemployed who have, and have not, paid the necessary contributions. give me the number on incapacity benefits who are not entitled (and the evidence why) and prove to me that most of the number of beneficiaries are single parents. if you cannot do these things, shut up with your offensive judgements. again – this was an environmenal article – the ranters will ultimately face more danger and more expense from environmental irresponsibility than from single mums and people laid off by woolworths.
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Blah. I could certainly provide a long list of the names of those who need to pull their fingers out and start working for a living. And yes there are far too many who don’t or have NEVER paid a stamp. It wouldn’t get publicised though. The scroungers out there do nothing to teach their offspring what life should be about I.E getting off your backside and earning a WAGE for the things you want in life. Did you walk through the Truchot this morning by any chance? It’s Thursday, handout day, so you would have seen for yourself who the majoirty of these “benficiaries” are.
Give us YOUR proof. How many of those laid off by Woolworths almost 2 years ago are still without jobs? How many people who have been made redundant are claiming unemployment benefit? I think you’ll find that those who have always worked for a living have pride and will take any job going until something better comes along rather than scrounge.
I agree that there are some people in genuine need of incapacity benefit but there are also some that swing the lead. One person I know of is on incapacity benefit but is able to ride a nice big shiny new motorbike. How is that right?
Matt L is right to say that the scroungers should be made to earn like the rest of us. If they were made to keep Guernsey’s beaches and public toilets clean and tidy and decided they didn’t like it then do like the rest of us and get a proper job.
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Oh here goes Blah……
Champion of the underdog!
Maybe if the underdog went to work, they would no longer be “under”.
Your last sentance, if trends continue, the UK modelled welfare state will collapse under its own weight, no money will be available for genuine hardship and black holes will increase.
A bike on a beach?? I can put that in a skip
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dear all – did the world wide ecomonic collapse of the last 3 years just pass you by, with its millions of jobless world wide? all doleheads and scroungers i suppose, or just those in the truchot? nowt wrong in taking on you daily mail mob who would tar and feather the poor for sport.
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Dear Blah. I see, when asked for proof you suddenly make your comments “world wide”. Has it escaped your notice that this has become a discussion about GUERNSEY scroungers?
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Cheesed Off
Blah has a history of changing the argument as it suits.
His comments are unfounded in the context of Guernsey, so he changes the ball park to “the world”! What next?? “the solar system”??
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dear all – how many of the 450 odd claiming unemployment benefit are scroungers then? 1%? 10%? 50%? 100%? you choose to see only a small minority who visibly and loudly pretend they are cool and uncaring about being without work and claiming benefits and you multiply it up to suit the theory that suits you – a simplistic ‘them and us’ theory. you have no idea of the very many different reasons people have to claim benefits – they ain’t gonna advertise their problems are they, when the likes of you are about. yes this is about guernsey and i have to inform you that guernsey is not the fantasy isle you’d like where you can beat on powerless people in order to feel more secure, but is in fact exactly the same as the rest of the world – it is affected by structural economic forces (a downturn brings about unemployment). luckily most people in guernsey can see beyond your local-yokel nonsense. the majority of jobless do not deserve to pick up after global or local pollution louts. they need decent jobs.
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@ Blah. I certainly do NOT choose to see only a minority and multiply it to suit any “theory”!!!!!
And you’re wrong, I DO have an idea why a large number of people claim benefits. They do not want to work and they get paid to laze around so there’s no incentive for them to work. Simples.
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