Requete leader not surprised as original vote stands
Wednesday 24th November 2010, 2:29PM GMT.
CIGARETTE vending machines will be banned in around 18 months’ time.
The States yesterday rejected an attempt to overturn its decision in June to outlaw the machines.
Dave Jones (pictured) led the requete calling for the decision to be annulled and another report prepared.
He believed the move had been approved without enough information and a lack of consultation with the businesses it would impact on.
‘I’m disappointed, but I don’t believe it was unexpected,’ he said.
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The only disturbing thing here is why it’s going to take 18 months to get this very necessary health measure in place.
Six months is more than enough ‘consultation’ time to give to businesses that are, let’s face it, perfectly happy to profit from a product that results in awful diseases and premature deaths for hundreds of island residents.
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@Martino: I agree with you whole heartedly. Except to say that the agreed ban on ‘killer stick’ vending machines can be put into place in about ten seconds…by pulling the plug out of the power socket. Why must it take 18 months?! Do it now. Help many more islanders to becoming a non-smokers. And perhaps whomever is in charge of the deparment responsible for implementing this ban will please explain to us here on this post source precisely why it will take 18 months ?
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Martino and Expat. Smokers can use something called a shop to purchase cigarettes, this won’t stop smoking at all. I’m surprised the States are actually removing them, it makes them a lot of money through taxes.
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Taxation on Cigarettes is huge hence the soon to be implemented Tax hike of 14Pence a packet. This is the same vein as Don’t drive your car but we need the tax on petrol and we won’t upgrade the frequency of buses. On the outside it looks as if this is for the good of the public and an incentive to stop doing something, instead as rightly pointed out people will have to go to a shop or pubs will have to sell them from the bar. I very much doubt many people have started smoking because they have seen a vending machine if we look at the rate that STD’s are increasing it would appear vending machines have little impact on people purchasing an item or not. I used to smoke gave up and manage to succesfully walk past a vending machine without buying cigarettes.
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Well Zippy I always look at vending machines and wonder which cigarette i would choose – if I smoked… which i dont… But just having them on display makes it easy if ever I was in a “to hell with the world” mood they would be there and ready. I like the machines – the little pictures and buttons….. I also always find myself staring at all the cigarettes behind the counters at Service stations. Why do you think companies spend so much money on advertising? It works! (and I dont believe your little -advertising doesnt effect me chant for one second). The ban is a good decision. Out of sight out of mind.
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Well said Zippy. And if anyone wants any more food for thought just take a look at this latest study on the effects of passive smoking, which shows why one of the next moves must be to protect children who are exposed to poisonous smokers’ fumes in cars etc…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11844169
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Sorry I meant well said Wil not zippy !
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Martino.
I’ll give you food for thought.
More children die every year due to malaria, due to HIV, due to TB and due to poverty.
If all cigarette production stopped tomorrow 1000′s of people in the third world, which is where the majority of these deaths occur, would loose their jobs, thus increasing child poverty, thus increasing infant mortality!
What is your sanctimonious back-side doing about those scourges of the third world?
Incidently 6000 coal miners (very topical) die annually what are you going to do about that?
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A vending machine is no more convenient than a shop – you have to have change for a start! WHO are the States to tell us what we can and cannot buy from a vending machine anyway?
With you on this one Zippy, and like your point on STDs very much!
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Wil
Pull the other one,
you just made all that up because you know you will get the thumbs up from the anti`s.
Nobody will give up smoking because of this and i have never met anyone who has started because of them either,
Just ban them and have done with it, instead of all this bull about the state trying to help people give up or to stop people from starting.
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Another Guernsey shambles
Reminds of communism
Wake up and smell the coffee
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Every measure possible should be made to make smokers as uncomfortable with their habit as possible.
It was acceptable up until just recently, so was drink driving not so long ago.
I have heard stories of the cops even escorting drunk drivers home if they had one too many & knew the offender.
Ten years from now people will be glad of this.
I am a smoker. I wish I never started.
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@ Paul. Why don’t you stop smoking?
Would removing vending machines make it easier for you to stop? If not what, in your opinion, would get you to stop smoking?
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Hello
Easier said than done.
Removing the machines would make it much harder for under age smokers to obtain them.
I used them on numerous occasions when I was too young to get served in shops. Many are tucked away near the rest rooms in hotels & easy for kids to make sneaky purchases.
Even when caught red handed, a story about them being for somebody else was all that was needed.
If I knew what was needed to stop smoking I already would have. Many others would too.
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Removing vending machines is one step in helping prevent kids from buying cigarettes.
That is all. As you were.
Jo
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I hope Barry Paint has more success with getting the widows back their pension with his planned requete as this is a sensitive subject.I wonder how many he has got on his side.
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What`s this about a requete?
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I should have read Mondays press properly eh Ann. BP said he was in the process of contacting other deputies to see if they were of the same view.’What I would like to see happen is for SSD to present their side of the story to us so people can decide , fairly’,he said. ‘Then if we aren’t satisfied we can try and persuade the department by numbers to change it’s mind.’
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