Man appeals as planners trim intended gateway by 30cm

Wednesday 12th January 2011, 2:29PM GMT.

A GRANDES Maisons Road resident is appealing a condition of a planning application concerning access to his home on safety grounds.

Liam Doherty was given permission to widen road entrance to Feldspar, a protected building. But he was permitted to increase the width from 3.5 to 3.7 metres, not to the four metres he had requested.

He took the Environment Department to an appeal tribunal on Monday.

The six-bedroom house is set behind a low wall with railings on top. It originally had a second access point but that was blocked off several years ago.

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  1. 1
    Hello

    I suppose a quick conversation and a compromise at 3.85M would have been just too easy for all concerned?

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  2. 2
    Mr G

    Oh no, 30cm! Environment Department need to grow up, or a simpler solution would be to sack them all!

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  3. 3
    Islander

    Long before the war we had a doctor in Guernsey he was Medical doctor for Guernsey. I think it was a Dr Mc’Glashan (spelling)
    Anyway he proposed that a wall be built all around Guernsey.

    I think the time has come to do that now.

    Either to stop the locals going beserk with the way they are treated by a load of has been that never was politicians,

    Or to stop the disease of restriction spreading further into this world.

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  4. 4
    coco

    This is a joke- I think these people just like to control and show authority-

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  5. 5
    Firestorm

    If its not signs its a few cm on entrances how much longer is the island going to put up with the incompetence of the Environment Department. Maybe its to try and draw peoples attention away from some of these large industrial units and other big projects swallowing up the Island.

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  6. 6
    Jeff

    That is nothing!

    They tried to get friends of ours, who were doing a new build, to put up a shed that was no more than 4 1/2′ HIGH!!?

    Also they refused final amendments because the chimney stacks were too high……. even though they were the ones that insisted on non-standard heights.

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  7. 7
    d

    couldn’t agree more firestorm !

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  8. 8
    Islander

    Is it true that you can only be a member of the ED if you have a tooth-brush moustache?

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  9. 9
    F

    Anybody wonder where guernsey States money is going? it’s going to 2 men in their suits to deliberate aaaaalll day about how just MAYBE a wall can be widened by 20 cm but not by 70 cm. a case file has to be prepared for all this junk, and unlike other states departments, this may be the only case they have on their desk, that’s why they can spend their lives pondering the question!
    having said this, i really don’t envy their jobs, boring boring boring…

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  10. 10
    Islander

    Any way; who invented and placed these brainless bodies into that ED,

    Someone must be responsible. so to whom has charge of these loose menaces get them tethered if you don’t want a riot.

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  11. 11
    Beanjar

    I think the Environment Department are doing a fantastic job in protecting us all from the menace of gateways wide enough to drive through and sheds you can stand up in. In fact I’m just about to tip them off about that bloney hideous yellow monstrosity some lunatic has built in La Charroterie …

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  12. 12
    Ray

    Beanjar

    I think E/D are already aware of that building.They recently had to grant a retrospective application to have some railings on the roof

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  13. 13
    Islander

    Not needed on the roof, but a very high wall with razor wire atop. not to stop entry, but to stop those inside mixing with those outside.

    Sort of to stop further contamination.

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  14. 14
    Ray

    Steady on Islander

    There are a few true Guerns working in there, albeit in the more lowly jobs

    My cousin,twice removed,is a red pencil sharpener operative in the planning department.He gives lectures on the subject and everything but unfortunately he cut his finger just before Christmas and has been told to stay off sick until Easter so that his deputy assistant can get some valuable experience in running the red pencil sharpener operatives team under his belt

    My cousin,who is no mug that’s for sure,is spending the time studying in the hope of being promoted to a trainee paper shredder,as he has learned on the grapevine that the chief paper shredder(an Englishman)is in line to take up a newly created, six figure salary plus car,post of A-Board Inspector

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  15. 15
    Islander

    Ah well Ray
    That does alter the circumstances quite a bit.
    You see I’m only a Guernsey man (I say only not in a disrespectful way)
    But those form up north love to hear how grateful we are to have them over here (explanation will follow)

    Yes they are welcome here because we Guernseys are warm (I don’t mean the clothing thing) and being in our nature to help others, those that abide in our fair Island, much to our chagrin, I must add, that being here will indeed help those poor souls in that never never land of mixed ideas.
    So you see our little Island does indeed help the world to go round. mind you those of whom I speak have been on that merry-go-round since they arrived in the 5Th century.
    But alas they are nomad no not mad nomad meaning to roam.

    just like having ants in their pants.

    Maybe they’ll get the wanderlust again and our Island will once again be that peaceful drowsy little Island that we as Guernsey folk loved so well.
    (I’m good with a rubber (English version eraser)
    Are there any openings in t’ yellow house.

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  16. 16
    donkey's Wotsits

    But then if the Dept turns a blind eye to 30cm on this occasion, someone else will try for a 60cm infringement.

    I believe the house at the centre of the fuss in 2010 was about 1 metre too big – so where do you draw the line?

    Rules are rules.

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  17. 17
    Islander

    Is that a fact ‘donkey’s wotsits’
    rules are rules eh.

    did they (I nearly said build) those monstrosities known as Admirals Park.when the ED had gone to bed?
    or because Rules are rules.?

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  18. 18
    gary

    You applied, you got turned down.
    GET OVER IT!!

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  19. 19
    Islander

    GARY!
    Normally I like your postings, but that defeatist attitude you just wrote is unworthy.
    In all walks of life one has to stand up, one can’t just accept what ever some says.
    That way might as well have the little brains we havbe removed at birth.
    I will nevber accept statements with out a query.
    Try it Gary.

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    nocon

    This problem could be easily sorted by the owners just re-opening the second access that they walled up.

    I have seen this property and if it`s a problem to get out of the gateway now why did they block the other entrance which must have given them easier access and egress?

    The blocked entrance would give safer exit towards the Bridge and the other, with caution,towards Town, end of problem.
    A hidden access sign on The Bridge side of the property would also help others and warn drivers of any need for extra awareness needed.

    I suggest that before people make their opinions public on here that they go and see the problem before commenting. It`s very obvious that most don`t and just like complaining about the planner`s decisions.

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  21. 21
    Betty Swollocks

    I’m with the Environment Department on this one. It is time we stamped out the evil menace of illegal gate-widening activities once and for all. Hangings too good for ‘em.

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  22. 22
    Sir Percy Blakeney

    Why is this in the GP? Must be a slow news day.

    Sounds like a simple dispute between a property owner and Environment. Must happen all the time – hardly a matter of ‘national’ interest.

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  23. 23
    Islander

    For goodness sake what’s so terrible about a wider opening, after all it’s nothing n’est pas?

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