Handicaps would be the end of the Siam as we know it
Saturday 21st May 2011, 2:30PM BST.
IT’S the end of the Siam as we know it. Or is it?One record stuffing has dispatched rugby officials back to the bars to discuss how Jersey can be tamed and, at the same time, find a formula to preserve the competition as it was meant to be – an equal contest.
The trouble is, quite clearly and despite the modern record in which Guernsey and Jersey have posted three wins apiece in the six games prior to last Saturday, this is no longer an even contest between two clubs set up decades ago along similar lines, representing similar values and fed by similar populations and resources.
Jersey, to their huge credit, have left Guernsey behind and, unless the JRFC headquarters at St Peter is shaken by an earthquake, they plainly are not going to come back towards us in the foreseeable future.
Like those beautiful balloons once sung about by The Fifth Dimensions, Jersey are Up, Up and Away.
Guernsey are not going to catch them.
All week I have been trying to get my head around this Siam Cup thing and what it would mean to place handicaps on one side or the other, which is what the preliminary suggestions indicate might happen?
And when you have done the analysis, surely the only conclusion can be from a Siam that would have a set of match-day rules which handicap one club and not the other, is that the heart of the competition is punctured and as good as dead.
The Siam might not be an official inter-insular like football’s Muratti and instead a tribal battle between two age-old clubs, but it is perceived as one and perception is often as important as reality.
The Siam Cup is rugby’s Muratti, forget that other game between second-strings. That does not really count.
In rugby, this is the big one, the one that is definitive in making the annual decision as to which island is best at rugby.
It is because it is viewed as a full inter-insular that crowds the size of last Saturday’s 3,000 at St Peter are drawn, and regularly around 2,000 when the game is at Foote’s Lane.
My fear is that, as dangerous as Jersey’s impressive ambition to reach for the sky is to the future health of the Siam, even more so is the suggestion that rules will be put in place to negate Jersey’s fearsome strength and give little Guernsey a sporting chance.
Not a big one, but a chance.
In my mind, introducing handicaps must not happen.
Better, surely, would be for Guernsey to move mountains to significantly raise their own standards and/or Jersey to realise that there is no need to play all their big guns come Siam day and leave their final selection down to the generosity of the Jersey coach at the time.
But even that latter thought leaves me feeling empty at the very thought.
I always want to see the best of Guernsey play the best of Jersey, no matter where they come from originally and whether they are paid.
While a succession of results such as 73-5 will soon kill off interest in the Siam as a first-team game, so too will the knowledge that one team is, in effect, being heavily handicapped to make it a game.
What next?
Give Guernsey an agreed points start?
This is not the Norman Wale Snooker Handicap boys, it’s the Siam, for heaven’s sake.
No, the only proper solution is to leave all alone when it comes to the qualification rules – and that includes keeping the pros involved as, after all, they are part of Jersey Rugby Club – and for Guernsey to somehow come forward with a sporting plan of their own which will take them closer to Jersey and, on near-future Siam days, hope the Caesareans take us too lightly.
I fully realise it will be very difficult for Guernsey to push on in the manner of the sister isle’s superbly run club, but that must be the target.
To simply accept Guernsey can never again rival Jersey on the rugby fields would be sad and inadmissible.
Come on Guernsey, fight back with a plan.
NOT sure where or from whom Jersey Rugby Club’s inspiration to reach the top came from, but the soon-to-be-born Guernsey FC would do well to aim similarly high.
And for all those decreasing doubters of the project, may I remind them what game AFC Wimbledon are playing today and the relevance of it.
Just nine years, after angry Wimbledon fans set up the club as an alternative to losing their club to Milton Keynes and its new set of ‘Dons’, AFC Wimbledon are just one victory away from reaching the Football League having started out, where Guernsey FC will, in Division One of the Combined Counties League.
It was as recently as August 2002 that AFC Wimbledon played their first game against Sandhurst Town [these days in the CCL Premier] and should they beat Luton today in the Blue Square Premier play-off final, it would be their fifth promotion in less than a decade.
They have an average crowd of 3,500 and, thanks to 300 volunteers in a real community effort, they need just six non-playing staff to operate.
It just goes to show what can be achieved by aiming high, good management, keeping the faith and working hard.‘To simply accept Guernsey can never again rival Jersey on the rugby fields would be sad and inadmissible’
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wimbledon can be proud of where they are. but is gsy.f.c. going to pay the same wages for players to play at a higher level.and will these players be local. on another subject, are all those in oppossition to your views and i quote. talking claptrap.
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Much as I agree with the dream that Guernsey rugby could somehow emulate Jersey rugby, the reality is that it would cost in the region of an extra £500k per annum so its just not likely to happen. As soon as any of Jersey rugby’s major sponsors drop out its likely to come crashing down like a deck of cards if they don’t manage to replace it.
I don’t really want to watch Guernsey play rugby against a team of professional imports. Take out the professionals and the integrity is maintained. If both teams employ loads of professionals then let them play each other with the professionals included for a separate trophy -but not the Siam. Amateur Jersey residents v amateur Guernsey residents – what can be simpler or fairer than that?
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“NOT sure where or from whom Jersey Rugby Club’s inspiration to reach the top came from”
Was it not the late Jack Walker and his millions?………
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Ponderous
Yes – that’s where it started but its also gained a lot of momentum since then. It does need something like that to kick it off though.
I think they also now charge either £3 or £5 to watch their home games at which they regularly get 2,000-plus spectators. If you play 18 home games a season that’s probably around £150k a year in gate revenues from creating something that people want to go and watch and are willing to pay for (note – Guernsey FC).
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I agree it is great to see AFC Wimbledon succeed and make it to the football league. They did start again from the CCL, where Guernsey will start, but dont forget they had huge financial backing and public support. All of their players have been continually paid through their rise from the CCL and they consistently had gates and a following that really helped the small teams in the CCL, so in their elevation they have helped a lot of clubs financially.
Again Mr Batiste I question your comments. If these types of scores involved youth teams then there would be a child protection issue. What do teams learn by losing by this much? I agree that you need to play better sides to improve but this is a none contest and in my opinion is unhealthy for the sports.
I keep saying it but Guernsey football will now come up against this issue in all inter insular games, outside of the muratti because Guernsey FC will represent Guernsey in that.
As sports look to improve to these levels it will obviously hurt local levels. It is time we remembered that we are a small Island and kept our long term objectives acheivable and realistic.
I think Guernsey FC is a very, very selfish project. What is left of Guernsey football cannot be the next AFC Wimbledon and rise from the ashes and beleive me the word ‘ashes’ is very accurate
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Well, Tom Scott is investing a wedge of cash into redeveloping the Garenne Stand (hopefully a proper bar figures into these plans somewhere?!) – why can’t this be the kick-start GRFC need? I fear that a lack of belief and long term ambition may be a factor in GRFC’s pleas for eligibility laws in the Siam Cup.
JRFC did not become the force they now are overnight – it took many (many) years, and was started by an injection of cash to build new facilities (I remember watching an England Legends vs JRFC 1st XV match when I was a young’un to celebrate the opening of the new clubhouse etc). It seems to me the GRFC are now in a very similar position, but cannot foresee equal success, and instead fear having to take a stuffing for a few years while they develop and progress.
One heavy defeat and all of a sudden it’s not a fair contest and the rule need to be changed – disappointing.
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Why not make a simple rule? To qualify for a place in a Siam Cup team you must be born a Channel Islander.
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Native Hooker
Under your rule somebody who wasn’t born here, came here as a very young child and has lived here for say 25 years would not be eligible. On the other hand somebody who was born here but left as a young child and has never since returned would be eligible. Doesn’t sound remotely logical or fair to me.
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