Pensioner crashes into Quay shop
Wednesday 30th November 2011, 2:15PM GMT.
Emergency services attend the scene at the seafront after a 90-year-old driver lost control of his car on the Crown Pier and crashed into the wall of Tapenade delicatessen opposite. (Picture by Steve Sarre, 1202907)
PEDESTRIANS in Town had a narrow escape yesterday after a car ploughed across a busy road and a pavement and smashed into the front of a shop.
The Quay was brought to a standstill during lunchtime as police closed off the thoroughfare.
A 90-year-old man was taken to hospital with rib injuries after driving his silver Toyota Yaris across the road, onto the pavement and into the wall of Tapenade delicatessen, beside Corkscrew.
Police said they believed the pensioner pressed the accelerator rather than the brake while exiting the Crown Pier.
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Another reason over 75s shouldn’t be allowed to drive.
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Could you make that over 80s ?
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How old are you? Not an OAP obviously. wait till you are you won’t want to be banned from driving I bet
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It’s about time the states brought in a test for older drivers.Say when you reach 70 if you fail you loose your licence it will also help to get some cars off our over crowded roads.No offence to our older drives but you know it makes sense
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None the less he will get away with it , unlike the young … this is where society fails itself
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I hope he goes to prison. At the very least he should never be allowed to drive again. The consequences here could have been horrendous.
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Good grief – prison’s a bit harsh for having a doddery moment and mistaking your accelerator for a brake don’t you think?!
I agree with the other sentiments though, there should be regular testing for people over a certain age. It’s not ageist, it’s plain common sense.
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That crossing is regularly packed with people. If he had killed/injured 15-20 people (which is a realistic possible outcome in this particular situation), would you still think its a bit harsh? It was so lucky that the people standing there managed to get out of the way.
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Think before you talk, how does your brain quantify this……….
an 89 year old man has a minor stroke and loses control of a car while unconcious and you want to put him in prison.
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DB > There is NO mention that this person had a stroke whilst driving. When medical evidence can be proved that he had a stroke at the wheel let’s just say that this elderly and doddery risk to people around him shouldn’t be driving at all.
If you can’t count or distinguish between 2 pedals as to which you should be depressing, then maybe they should go work for the States Treasury department, we’d all be MUCH richer….
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Simply mistaking the wrong peddle is a bit of an understatement. That road is roughly 4 lanes wide plus a pavement, if he didn’t realised he was moving forward in that amount of time, there is no way he should be allowed to drive…. EVER
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pause for a moment to consider the outcry if a teen had done this.
If you shut your eyes you can almost hear the calls for a public lynching.
but as a 90 year old im sure there will be no ban :)
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Yet people still moan about young drivers.
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How do you cope with visitors arriving with their cars? Passport/ Driving licence check on disembarking, then impound their keys and car until they leave the island? Sounds like a good idea to cut down the retired visitor short break holidays.
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Dave,
you would treat them in the same way as the UK or France deal with you when you turn up at their ports, you do nothing. If the person is eligable to drive in their country of origin then they can drive here. Are we required to change the stearing wheel to the other side of the car when we alight from the boat in St Malo or are we required to replace the illegal black and silver number plates when we turn up in Poole or Weymouth, no. Therefore the same applies to those visiting Guernsey. And before you say anything about it not being the same they are all traffic laws.
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not true.
countries have different drink drive limits but they are bound by ours when they are in Guernsey.
the drive age limit in France is 18.
So even if a 17 year old with a full Guernsey licence goes over there, they cant drive.
However at midnight on their 18th birthday they can (although i imagine would be in no fit state to)
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People that age shouldnt be able to hold a license, its a miracle no one was killed or badly injured
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No disrespect or ageism intended – but people over a certain age need to take a safety test to prove that they are still capable of driving and MOST Important – safely.
Yet another accident today involving an older gentleman. When will the powers that be realize this is the cause of quite a few of the accidents recently?
I would personally welcome a safety test being brought in for everyone to renew after they have passed their driving test say after 10 years then every 5 or 2 years over a certain age. I would happily take this test every 10 years if it meant that I knew I was safe enough to drive.
Also Traffic has increased and will continue to increase as years go by so how many more mature people will get frightened by the speed and number of cars on the roads?
Its more a confidence thing than anything and should involve or be based on ‘Confidence and competence on local roads’, to ensure that everyone has the ability to drive safely.
I’m not saying its the answer but could certainly reduce the number of accidents and unsuitable drivers on our roads be they old or young.
What are everyone’s thoughts?
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Agree totally with the idea of regular re-testing for all and more frequently as you get older. The test should also include reversing down a country lane and how to use a roundabout!
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I totally agree with you about using a roundabout! Seriously, do the instructors not teach people how to navigate around a roundabout before people get their license? The police should just sit up near Jefferies and with the amount of people they would catch mis-using the roundabout, it would take them about a day to fill the black hole :)
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You are allowed to drive over a painted roundabout for example Jefferies, Top Of the Terres, Northside.
You can drive accross a raised round about for example, Weighbridge, Red Lion.
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Sorry, I meant Cannot drive accross a raised
Can drive accross a painted
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Ooft can you please site a source for where it states you can legally drive over a painted roundabout (ie mini-roundabout) in a normal sized vehicle? I’m sure if you revise your rule book you will see it is in fact illegal. If other cars are present when one person drives through the centre it is downright dangerous. Roundabouts (and mini-roundabouts) are specifically designed so that two cars are able to use it simultaneously – how can this happen if you drive recklessly through the middle?
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Hoe cool is the fire brigades new kit? It’s the same colour as the sand!
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Let’s hope they’re not called to an emergency on the beach- we’d never find them!!! But yes,it is kinda cool, very calming colour.
Just the thing if you’re trapped in a car wreck under the vehicle of a 90 year old careless driver.
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Stop people driving at that age its not rocket science
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Nathan.
Do you mean the ambulance?
Agree with tests for elder people & people with oversize cars, these are also sometimes dangerous, witnessed one last week who actually closed her eyes as she passed, Crazy
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Nope i think he means fire brigade, it says fire and rescue on their vests.
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Let’s hope Frankieforman goes to Specsavers to get his eyes tested or we could be reading about a rear end shunt involving himself.
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Old people are more dangerous than young drivers (except for the irresponsible young ones, which thankfully are few and far between). Most elderly people suffer from slower reaction times, loss of confidence on the road (yet still drive!) and frequently cause accidents such as these.
I’ve lost count at the number of times I have followed a car going slowly along a main road at 15-20 MPH and then passing straight over a filter at the same speed without stopping; and also crossing a centre line when cornering.
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You can teel that old(er) people cannot drive, and you can tell that young people cannot drive. Both can be true. My own dad is nearly 84 an still driving, even in Amsterdam without any problem. I think every case is different. Here in Holland every one above 75 years is testing by doctor too see if your allowed still to drive.
Regards,
Bella Schellinkhout
Amsterdam
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Bella
Was your father tested on his hill starts?
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Amsterdam is a little different…all the drivers are so stoned that they’re really careful about driving over 20 mph, pulling out on Bikers and Cyclists and love everyone on the roads so much they don’t want to hurt them by causing an accident…!! ;))
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Regular testing should be brought in for all drivers of all ages not just older people. Driving is the most dangerous thing we all do every day and passing one test in the whole of our lives is grossly inaderquate when compared with the consequenses of bad driving.
Yes I know we’re all the worlds best driver, thats why I’m not bothered about being tested.
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It does seem to me that to still be driving at 90 on todays roads is a bit dodgy, I know it takes away the persons independence, but your reflexes, cannot be 100% and I do agree that a test should be taken when you get over a certain age. I saw an elderly person trying to park on the Bridge and it was an absolute pantomine, I dont think they could even turn their neck and ricochet of the pavement many times to get in the parking space, unbelievable. Also it is worth bearing in mind that an awful lot of elderly people drive automatic cars and it seems what is happening in these accidents is they are putting their foot on the accelerator rather than the brake,which can happen to anyone driving an automatic car, but then it all comes down to reflexes.
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Thank goodness no one was seriously injured including the driver. Personally I think the problem here is that the car was automatic. I know of at least 4 other incidents over here in the last few years where this type of accident has occured because the wrong pedal has been stepped on and in the ensuing panic I think the drivers just hit the pedal even harder thinking they are on the brake, but they are on the accelorator so the car just jolts on even faster. Perhaps its a case of not banning the over 70s, 80s or whatever but banning the type of vehicle! I know of many over 80s driving very very safely so it would be a shame to exclude them from our roads. I certainly hope when I am in that age bracket that I can still enjoy the independence of driving, subject of course to my mental and physical health!
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How long is it going to take before something is done to stop these older persons from getting behind the wheel and becoming rolling timebombs ??. It’s about time there was a compulsary retirement age for driving. There have been a few incidents lately that could have been a lot worse than what they were.An automatic car is no excuse because if you get confused over 2 pedals and press the wrong one you should be nowhere near the driving seat and just proves the point.
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In todays world of equality I hope this man faces the full force of the law. This is driving without due care and attention and could of been much worse. You can bet a 17 year old would be up in court for this and have to retake their test so the same should apply here. I’ve been saying for years that there should be a retest at a certain age, due in part to the fact that 3 people I know in the last year have had their cars written off by over 70s. One of them was even crosseyed! unreal.
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Im sure that there are a lot of ealderly drivers that are still fine, my parents are both in there mid 70s and drive and are very safe on the roads.
I think you have to take each person as an individual, it was a bad mistake but they do happen even to the best of drivers at times.
You cannot put a blanket ban on a certain age as this affects their human rites. I do agree that maybe when you reach 80 its time to be tested again.
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You are right the may be some driver that are stiil very good (and probably better) driver than the younger people on the roads.
Human rights – what about the human rights of people NOT to get run over – by ANYBODY!!! We can put a blanket ban on an age group – you cannot hold a car licence until you are 17 – that is putting a blanket ban on the under 17′s, so why can’t we put a blanket ban in place???
As people get older their reactions slow down and sorry but that is a fact. With Guernsey roads as crowded as they are (and as small as they are) you do need you wits about you when driving on them. I have several friends from England come over and ave said that if you can drive Guernsey roads you can drive most other places as they are the most difficult.
Oh and just one more point – why the over 80′s and Not the over 70′s may I ask??????
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Ages of man I’m afraid; you can’t tell nippers anything because they know everything and you can’t tell pensioners anything because they’ve done everything. The only sensible people on the planet are all us lot in the middle. ;-)
It’s likely that this chap will have to go through a medical and it’s quite likely that either via family pressure or through the doctor he will be asked/forced not to drive again.
You can stand down the village lynch mob now – all is well.
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Speaking from personal experiance, an elderly gentlman mowed straigt into an aquantance not so long ago, the damage to the car was awful, the elderly gentleman claimed he did not see the car- he was on top of it by the time he stopped. Dispite several attempts to get this man off the roads (and at the least have an eye test) nothing came of it. A week later he was seen plouging down a lane and making two pedestrians jump in the hedge- how bad does it have to get before something can be done?
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Never knew our Island had so many conceited barrack room lawyers. Come on, everyone makes mistakes and this guy might have just made his first after 72 years driving. Who is the more dangerous or stupid – the nonogenerian who will be embarrassed by his unintended error or the Kev run idiots. I know which one
I would choose to ban for life if I had the authority to do so. Come on guys, a little bit of compassion would not come amiss !
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Rather than banning the oldies from driving, why not introduce compulsory euthanasia at age 70? Solves the driving problem and the affordability of pensions in one hit, not to mention freeing up housing. It’ll also give the economy a boost as the people who inherit will go on a spending spree. Come on deputies, you know it makes sense, I bet none of them is willing to stick their neck out and propose the idea though………
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Shhh!! Don`t give them such ideas.
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Ancient Squaddie, would you have had compassion for this chap had he killed a child whilst having this “unintended error”. The chap concerned should have hung up his keys years ago.
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…to SS (hope that doesn’t stand for anything related to a certain point in German military history?)
Well as Paul Le page said a doddery moment…but what the hell, let’s get as many as we can..I know an 97 year old woman who lost her wallet in the Pollet and had the audacity to ask the police to help her find it..turned out she had it in her handbag all along….talk about wasting police time…five years at least, on bread and water…bet she won’t misplace that wallet again.
Let’s get the oldies!!!
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Possibly a exodus member,couldnt get away fast enough.
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The problem for a lot of elderly people is that their vehicle is their only form of independance. I know elderly people who go out in their car each day to the local shops etc simply to actually see and speak to someone, otherwise they would just be on their own in their house for days on end.
It can take cases such as this for them to finally admit to themselves that maybe it’s time to hang up the keys and send back their driving licence.
I’m sure the person involved in this accident must realise how lucky he was not to hit anyone, and maybe he will then decide of his own accord to give up driving.
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Though personal experience is ‘invaluable,’ it might be unwise to dictate driving regulations based on it.
Table 31 of ‘Reported Road Casualties Great Britain 2009′ (Dept of Transport) shows car drivers >80 years report lower rates road traffic injury than any other age group (apart from those <15 years old).
Drivers in the 16-30 age range have the highest rate of road traffic injury, indicating they are the most dangerous.
If safety is of concern, the minimum age to drive should be 30.
(http://www2.dft.gov.uk/adobepdf/162469/221412/221549/227755/rrcgb2009.pdf)
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Does this take into account the total number of driver in each age category? I image there are a lot more under 30 then over 80.
In the case of this story, I would hope even a 17 year old would have found the correct pedal (or even steering wheel) before they made it all they way across one of the widest roads on the island
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It’s reported as a rate (per million) in each age group.
Though it is not really subject to the problem you stated, I accept it could present bias in that there are probably a larger proportion of under 30s driving compared to over 80s.
Though it would help if number of drivers were accounted for, it does not solve all the problems with this data. The patterns of driving may be different, for example. Under 30s may drive more often and at times where accidents are more likely.
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Mr Lee, do you really think it is only oldies who make that mistake and hit the accelerator instead of the brake pedal or are you too blinkered to even consider that. Yes, had that accident resulted in the sad death of any individual, I would still have had compassion for that driver and for the bereaved family. Indeed, the driver would have been devastated himself. Look up accident in your Oxford dictionary “unintention act; unfortunate esp.
harmful act.” Shame that you feel the need to rant over one man’s misfortune and as for “What if…” you left out the ending “pigs could fly” !
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So you’d have compassion for the driver if he was old, but not if he was young or a kev?
Double standards and prejudiced.
It was luck that this man didn’t kill several people. He should go to prison and never be allowed to drive again.
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Everyone has a right to own a car, but the right to drive one is subject to passing test showing your competent to do so.
Watch how many drivers ignore roundabouts just doing a sharp right and, driving across them. Most of them will tell you that they don’t have to drive around a roundabout, illustrating their total ignorance of the law.
Can these people be called competent drivers,retest everybody every six years . As I said in my first post. Driving is the most dangerous thing we all do every day and passing one test in the whole of our lives is grossly inaderquate.
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Agree Pete, Oofts response to my comment above on the same issue perfectly illustrates the point. Many people just have no idea about roundabouts. You have to go *around* a roundabout – there are no exceptions! Seems so simple doesn’t it? Another favourite of mine is when people change lanes from the inside lane to the outside lane upon exiting a roundabout, often cutting in front of the car in the outside lane as they do so – happens on the town roundabout all the time. Retesting should be mandatory so that people can get updated on the latest road “technology” (ie, roundabouts) and new rules.
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This is the obvious consequence of a community that puts all its eggs in the private vehicle basket. We are all brought up to believe that driving yourself to and from every destination, all the time is the only way to get around. If we had a bus service that was more inclusive and viable for everyone, and more encouragement to use it, as well as cycling and walking, so that using the car was not always the primary choice of travel, then giving up your car as you get older wouldn’t seem such a big deal.
Who out of all these people clamouring for this guy to be lynched, is going to voluntarily hand over their car keys when they reach 70?
Having said that, I agree that re-testing of us all periodically, would be a good idea. It was a miracle and a blessing that no-one was hurt on this occasion!
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Remember the good old days,when people walked,cycled and everyone waved and had a smile on their face.
Those days may have gone forever
RIP The Old guernsey
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He’s only gone and done it again.
Laughed?
I could have cried.
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Please do not feed the troll, very tedious PB.
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Maybe we should all have to be tested on a frequent basis. Every couple years up to a certain age and then 6 monthly when you’re over 60 for example.
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There is a letter in today’s Press from
(presumably)a lady who wished to express her thanks to a young woman who followed her out of a shop car park for half a mile or so to warn her that she had left her handbag .. not on her car roof .. but on her bonnet!
That conjures up visions of one of the many little old ladies who creep along barely able to see over their steering wheels.That is probably twice as dangerous as talking on the phone while driving
There is an opening here for one of our beleaguered High Street shops to offer a good deal on booster seats for Christmas
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I agree. Everybody and by that I mean ‘all drivers’, should be tested every ten years,and those involved in an accident always made to retake their driving test. The main problem in this case appears to be partly attributed to the fact that like so many modern cars,it was fitted with an automatic gearbox, which ecourages those (who probably should not be driving in the first place) to drive with their ‘left foot’ constantly on the break pedal,which is an accident waiting to happen! For those of you who read this and drive an automatic,your left foot should remain resting on the floor and ‘never’,repeat ‘never’be used to stop the car. Allways use your ‘Right foot to operate either pedal. Now you know !
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There should be some testing for older drivers. I was a passenger in a horsebox on Saturday (not exactly and easy vehicle to miss) when an elderly lady pulled out in front of us coming out of Forest stores without even looking and missed up by inches. Horse nearly ended up with us in the cab we had to slam the brakes on so hard. We were only doing about 15 mph at the time luckily. Downright dangerous driving. She was TOTALLY oblivous to what she had done and just drove towards town in a world of her own. How she could miss a small lorry beggars belief but it is a good example of how reflexes and awareness sadly diminish as we get older. At a very minimum there should be an eye test. I spend alot of time on the roads because of my job and the older drivers and the ladies driving big wide cars are the ones that scare me the most. Many of them seem to love driving in the middle of the road forcing oncoming traffic onto the pavement or into the hedge while they just keep driving their tanks or little put puts as if they are the only ones on the road!
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I had an old dear almost kill me up in the Vale doing a similar manoeuvre while I cycled past (wearing luminous and reflective clothing). She mouthed “sorry” at me and drove off. I felt a mixture of absolute terror, livid anger, and disbelief. Perhaps I should have suggested she write that message on the condolences card for the funeral of the next person she comes across.
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And well done to the older lady in a silver mercedes putting on her lipstick at the St Martins filter this afternoon. UNREAL. Don’t worry love – doesn’t matter that it was school collection time, pushchairs and children everywhere. Putting your face on as you roll across the zebra crossing and still touching up your lips while you drove towards the filter using your rear view mirror for your make up. Being older and driving a Merc does not mean you can do what you like.
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I hope you got her number and gave it to the police. This should carry a mandatory ban as I believe it’s more distracting and dangerous than talking on a phone. At least if your on the phone you have your eyes on the road.
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I feel slightly vindicated now as a Biker who rides a GSXR 1000, I may exceed the speed limit every now and again to over-take when the oncoming traffic is clear. Compared to the idiots in 4 wheeled death dealers (of all ages but especially those 70) I’m a veritable safe bet to not injure myself and others or cause a severe accident and have the Emergency services called out.
As I’ve said before, car drivers are a danger to those around them and themselves. They feel too safe and fluffy in their little killer steel boxes on wheels.
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“I’m a veritable safe bet not to injure myself and others”
What a load of codswallop, more local ‘bikers’ have been scraped off Guernsey and French roads in the last decade or so than I’ve had hot dinners!
On one hand you are openly admitting to speeding past ‘idiots’ that drive cars and you are saying THEY are the dangerous ones.
There are probably at least 10 times more four wheeled vehicles on this island than there are bikes, if you bothered to look at the statistics I think you will find a much larger proportion of motorcycle riders get injured and are involved in accidents than car drivers.
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For the complete picture of road deaths/injuries over the last 10 years check this one out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15975720
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Loving your style Kevin….perhaps a politician in the making? “There are probably” “at least” “if you bothered” “I think”. Yes, truly persuasive argument there. I think I shall not even contemplate researching anything in future. I shall take your so very *assured* statements as gospel in future.
It is a known fact that anyone riding something with 2 wheels, as opposed to 4, is FAR more likely, should they be involved in a collision with another vehicle, is more likely to die than someone involved in a collision with said 4 wheel vehicle. It is for this precise reason that cyclists and bikers are FAR more road and safety aware, and why I would far prefer my children to walk to school if there were only 2 wheeled vehicles on the road.
Kevin: if you actually have statistics to bear out what is basic common sense, please reveal the source – could be a major news story and certainly an education for many of us.
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Thanks for your kind words Belinda,I probably could meet the criteria to be a politician as I am able to make a persuasive argument without researching anything at all.
You are the one that needs the education if you disagree that some motorcyclists have less brain cells than wheels,if you use Guernsey roads I challenge you to deny that you have never seen any totally stupid and reckless riding, if you can then I suggest you get yourself off to Specsavers pronto!
For living proof of certain bikers mentality you only have to read Blow in Boys post- in the space of a few sentences he admits to speeding, states that he is unlikely to be involved or cause a serious accident ( talk about tempting fate!) and BEST OF ALL then goes on to accuse car drivers of being the dangerous ones!!
Some cyclists and motorcyclists may be far more road safety aware but quite clearly there is also several that are not.
For the record I both drive and ride a scooter to work so I have seen it from both sides, I won’t try and play car drivers off against cyclists/motorcyclists as I have seen appalling driving and riding from both and being honest I would admit to having done some fairly stupid things at times.
I guess nobody is perfect.
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Kevin…..have you ever tried to overtake someone doing 35 mph AT 35 mph, this is an impossibility according to the laws of Physics and Mathematics. I admitted to exceeding the speed limit to do an overtaking maneuver, which is perfectly acceptable according to the highway code, as long as I slow down and obey the speed limit after pulling back in to lane.
I did NOT admit to driving at 100 mph everywhere, or at 45 mph on the pavement like 95% of ALL car drivers on this Island.
Let’s get this straight from 2 very recent experiences I’ve had within the last month (that’s 1 every 2 weeks).
1: I was travelling AT the speed limit from town up to Jeffries on Prince Albert Rd, when I had a 4×4 pull out dangerously in front of me from the junction of Les Ruettes Braye. As it was raining I backed off to a safer braking distance and sat behind him – as he CRAWLED up P.Alb Rd at FIFTEEN Mph. I know this to be the speed as my LCD speedo clocked him at this speed. Dangerous driving (driving TOO slow can also be seen as this) ??? NOT as dangerous as when he slammed on the anchors and then sat at the side of the Road chinwagging to the people inside. There was NO indication of a maneuver to pull in NEITHER was there an activation of his hazard lights as he was parked right on a bend that would cause other drivers to pull into the flow of oncoming traffic.
Now even though I had my headlight on full beam and I was wearing bright yellow leathers he didn’t see me. I know this because as I performed and emergency stop and sat there waiting for him to move off, 1000cc’s of sports engine burbling away, he still hadn’t checked his rear view mirror and NONE of the passengers acknowledged me. UNTIL I pulled my clutch in and revved the engine to about 10k RPM. I admit I could have been done for manslaughter if the driver had died of a coronary as he was about 75. I pulled alongside him, flipped my visor up, lowered the tops of my sunglasses, looked across, fixed him with a glare and shook my head.
2: When travelling back from waitrose on the Rohais to town I got to the Filter at the Junction of Rocquettes and De Beauvoir. A woman in a silver MX5 looked me square in the visor and as I was halfway across the Filter pulled out in front of me. AGAIN I had to perform an emergency stop, she mouthed sorry to me,put her head down sheepishly and pulled off. AGAIN another stupid driver driving stupidly.
Try this on for size from Shoosmiths of London >
Statistics released by the Government in its Reported Road Casualties Results 2009 reveal there were 472 motorcyclist deaths in 2009 – four per cent down on 2008.
The number reported as seriously injured also fell 4% to 5,350; whilst the total reported motorcycle user casualties for 2009 is 20,703 – another 4% down on 2008. This is despite motorcycle traffic rising by 2% over the same period.
Recent reports confirmed that in Hampshire and the Isle of Wight in 2008, 252 motorcyclists were killed or seriously injured, and 849 suffered an injury in road traffic accidents. 65% of all injuries resulted from collisions involving motorcycles or scooters at junctions, and 35% of those incidents were where the other driver failed to see the motorcyclist.
Now if you take the population of the Isle of Wight as 124577 alone (twice that of Guernsey at 65000) you’ll see that just that figure alone is minimal compared to the amount of deaths caused by 4 wheeled road users.
Similarly the number of motorcyclists killed or seriously injured on Norfolk’s roads fell from 102 in 2008 to 93 in 2009, an 8.8% drop. Norfolk had a population of 850800 in 2008.
SOURCE> http://www.access-legal.co.uk/legal-news/biker-deaths-down-in-2009-lu-2448.htm
Now instead of your pure conjecturing are these cold hard statistics and experiences starting to get through to you as to which is the safer mode of transport?
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And why would it be necessary to overtake someone doing 35mph anyway?
That’s our speed limit in case it had escaped your attention.
I suggest you also go back and revise your highway code, nowhere will you find it saying that it is acceptable to break the speed limit regardless of if you are overtaking or not. The speed limit is the MAXIMUM at which any vehicle should travel.
As for your statistics I would take them with a pinch of salt because they are UK statistics and bear no relation to Guernsey, Norfolk may have a population of 850800 and ‘only’ 93 were seriously injured or killed but how many people out of those 850800 ride bikes?
If 800 have bikes the proportion of injuries/ deaths is very high, conversely if 250,000 ride bikes then the proportion is very low, get my point??
If you feel the need to convince me then I’d be interested to know the local statistics of both car and motorcycle accidents locally in relation to how many of each are registered with the VRLD.
That would give the true picture.
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THE OTHER THING WORST THEN OLD DRIVERS ARE ALL THE STATUS SYMBOLS DRIVERS BATTER KNOW AS A 4X4.MOST PEOPLE WHO OWEN THESE THINGS CAN NOT DRIVE ,PARK OR REVERSE THEM.I THINK THEY SHOULD PAY A £600 AYEAR ROAD TAX.THESE CARS SHOULD NOT BE ON GUERNSEY ROADS
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Perhaps you are a true guern … terrible spelling and punctuation,a bee up your bum about 4×4′s and SHOUTING ALL THE TIME!!
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I dare say Jeremy Clarkson will have a punishment, involving firing squads, lined up.
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Sorry chaps it is an ambulance. My eyesight must be good, if you look above the windscreen you will see ambulance. Fire Brigade were sanding the road.
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wow three older drivers had an accident in one month ,okay how many younger drivers also had accidents ,
i bet this will show that older drivers are the ones who have accidents less than younger drivers .i agree a test from a certain age would be okay ,but also i think some younger drivres would also benefit from a re test as well .when they are behind you in a car they follow you so close ,this again is very dangerous ,so younger take note you one day will be that age [you hope ].
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Unless you know the circumstances behind the crash, I don’t think anyone has the right to comment!
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Shut up then!
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Guerngirl
Coming from a female thats hilarious
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