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		<title>By: Kittycat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kittycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. Well if they&#039;re luxury flats then they could at least make them attractive and unintrusive, there&#039;s no need to upset the neighbours by making them taller then they need to be.

I just don&#039;t understand why they&#039;re not keeping some of the existing building - I can&#039;t think of anything cooler then living in a converted brewery! Far more interesting than living in another glass and concrete box. It&#039;s an old area of town too, I don&#039;t see how they can justify that as being sympathetic to the surrounding area. I wish they would think about something other than money, for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. Well if they&#8217;re luxury flats then they could at least make them attractive and unintrusive, there&#8217;s no need to upset the neighbours by making them taller then they need to be.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand why they&#8217;re not keeping some of the existing building &#8211; I can&#8217;t think of anything cooler then living in a converted brewery! Far more interesting than living in another glass and concrete box. It&#8217;s an old area of town too, I don&#8217;t see how they can justify that as being sympathetic to the surrounding area. I wish they would think about something other than money, for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kittycat

wwwguernseypropertyprices.com shows that the Brewery was sold for £1,835,400 in August 2007

Add five years worth of interest to that sum,add a six figure sum for architects fees,add cost of demolition,add cost of rebuilding and you would have to cram a hell of a lot of genuinely affordable flats in there just to break even</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kittycat</p>
<p>wwwguernseypropertyprices.com shows that the Brewery was sold for £1,835,400 in August 2007</p>
<p>Add five years worth of interest to that sum,add a six figure sum for architects fees,add cost of demolition,add cost of rebuilding and you would have to cram a hell of a lot of genuinely affordable flats in there just to break even</p>
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		<title>By: Kittycat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kittycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with this... If they could keep the original facade of the building and convert it into genuinely affordable housing, we would all be behind them. Why does it need to be any taller than it is anyway? It&#039;s like they&#039;re going out of their way to upset people.

And I really don&#039;t hold with this view that they would be in some way inhibiting progress by being more traditional. Some modern architects are capable of designing beautiful, creative buildings which are sympathetic to their surroundings. Many more are lazy and stick to building bland, utilitarian style boxes. Contemporary does not always equal good. St Peter Port is one of the most beautiful port towns in all of Europe in my opinion, but being so small that can easily (and irreversibly) be ruined by destroying iconic old buildings and replacing them with ugly rubbish.

Also, to all those labelling the above people as nimbys, consider how you&#039;d feel if a development was announced near you that reduced the value of your property considerably. Add in that this is actually rather unnecessary and shouldn&#039;t have been given permission in the first place, considering the trouble us normal folk have in getting permission to, I don&#039;t know, build a conservatory. I know I&#039;d be upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with this&#8230; If they could keep the original facade of the building and convert it into genuinely affordable housing, we would all be behind them. Why does it need to be any taller than it is anyway? It&#8217;s like they&#8217;re going out of their way to upset people.</p>
<p>And I really don&#8217;t hold with this view that they would be in some way inhibiting progress by being more traditional. Some modern architects are capable of designing beautiful, creative buildings which are sympathetic to their surroundings. Many more are lazy and stick to building bland, utilitarian style boxes. Contemporary does not always equal good. St Peter Port is one of the most beautiful port towns in all of Europe in my opinion, but being so small that can easily (and irreversibly) be ruined by destroying iconic old buildings and replacing them with ugly rubbish.</p>
<p>Also, to all those labelling the above people as nimbys, consider how you&#8217;d feel if a development was announced near you that reduced the value of your property considerably. Add in that this is actually rather unnecessary and shouldn&#8217;t have been given permission in the first place, considering the trouble us normal folk have in getting permission to, I don&#8217;t know, build a conservatory. I know I&#8217;d be upset.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen

Do you work in a Library and feel the need to shout after work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen</p>
<p>Do you work in a Library and feel the need to shout after work?</p>
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		<title>By: KAREN</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAREN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOBODY DESERVES A VIEW ,THERE IS NO LAW STATING YOU CAN KEEP YOUR VIEW ,OR YOUR SKY ,SUN OR ANYTHING ELSE MY NEIGHBOUR SOLD HIS GARDEN TO DEVELOPERS SO THE VIEW I HAD HAS GONE I NOW HAVE NEW VIEW 88 HOUSES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOBODY DESERVES A VIEW ,THERE IS NO LAW STATING YOU CAN KEEP YOUR VIEW ,OR YOUR SKY ,SUN OR ANYTHING ELSE MY NEIGHBOUR SOLD HIS GARDEN TO DEVELOPERS SO THE VIEW I HAD HAS GONE I NOW HAVE NEW VIEW 88 HOUSES</p>
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		<title>By: DCM</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfectly right Devils Advocate, if Woody is saving all of his money or spending all of his money on a roof over his head then there is none for me, the travel agent, the airline pilot,the car salesman,the hotelier, the barmaid. and we would all like a nice car, a holiday, a drink down the pub but were all being made redundant because What disposable income Woody has he is either saving for a roof over his head or trying to pay for it.

The rest of us in commerce and industry are suffering because of Greedy estate agents and landlords. The situation is being masked by cheap emigrant labour living outside the real Guernsey economy, very often in subsedised accommodation paying very little or no tax.

At the same time we in our 40s and 50s have our kids in their 20s and sometimes 30s living with us because they can&#039;t afford a roof of their own on what they earn, or worse they can&#039;t get work.

Recsession always starts with high property and high energy prices, government too slow to respond and ends with high unemployment.

I certainly don&#039;t agree that a working person should have to choose between affording a life or a home. There is plenty of wealth to go round now as there always has been, it just needs to be a little more evenly disstributed. In my view it is the job of government to ensure that it is.

I hope deputy Jones has a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly right Devils Advocate, if Woody is saving all of his money or spending all of his money on a roof over his head then there is none for me, the travel agent, the airline pilot,the car salesman,the hotelier, the barmaid. and we would all like a nice car, a holiday, a drink down the pub but were all being made redundant because What disposable income Woody has he is either saving for a roof over his head or trying to pay for it.</p>
<p>The rest of us in commerce and industry are suffering because of Greedy estate agents and landlords. The situation is being masked by cheap emigrant labour living outside the real Guernsey economy, very often in subsedised accommodation paying very little or no tax.</p>
<p>At the same time we in our 40s and 50s have our kids in their 20s and sometimes 30s living with us because they can&#8217;t afford a roof of their own on what they earn, or worse they can&#8217;t get work.</p>
<p>Recsession always starts with high property and high energy prices, government too slow to respond and ends with high unemployment.</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t agree that a working person should have to choose between affording a life or a home. There is plenty of wealth to go round now as there always has been, it just needs to be a little more evenly disstributed. In my view it is the job of government to ensure that it is.</p>
<p>I hope deputy Jones has a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sugars Brazil Nut</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go and view the planning application info. The idiot responsible for the glass box idea is identifiable from that, and despite recent events (both commercial and personal) leading to changes in company name, personnel etc it&#039;s no real surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go and view the planning application info. The idiot responsible for the glass box idea is identifiable from that, and despite recent events (both commercial and personal) leading to changes in company name, personnel etc it&#8217;s no real surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Pets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Pets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My arguement isn&#039;t about who can afford them but what complete idiot designed it. I thought modern architects would have a bit of imagination. Same old crap as admiral park . I think that the whole front facade should be retained . Surely an old building which is a GY landmark shouldn&#039;t be bulldozed and replaced with glass and a boxy facade. Sack yhe idc or at least find out if any of them will come out of this deal with a little thankyou...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My arguement isn&#8217;t about who can afford them but what complete idiot designed it. I thought modern architects would have a bit of imagination. Same old crap as admiral park . I think that the whole front facade should be retained . Surely an old building which is a GY landmark shouldn&#8217;t be bulldozed and replaced with glass and a boxy facade. Sack yhe idc or at least find out if any of them will come out of this deal with a little thankyou&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they will be higher (by two stories)if the pics. are anything to go by.
No, they will not be affordable to your average Guernseyman,even to those who are able to sell their existing home to purchase one of these.
Some( who may be consided as reasonably well off) are already planning to move out from Apartments in Admiral Park for example.
Even if you have the funds to purchase one of these places,you have to consider the &#039;ongoing&#039; CHARGES which do not start low and slowly increase, but can and will, start high and keep rising.
 I can see many of these new &#039;Investments&#039; standing empty for years to come,unless our States are prepared to put a stop to this. nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they will be higher (by two stories)if the pics. are anything to go by.<br />
No, they will not be affordable to your average Guernseyman,even to those who are able to sell their existing home to purchase one of these.<br />
Some( who may be consided as reasonably well off) are already planning to move out from Apartments in Admiral Park for example.<br />
Even if you have the funds to purchase one of these places,you have to consider the &#8216;ongoing&#8217; CHARGES which do not start low and slowly increase, but can and will, start high and keep rising.<br />
 I can see many of these new &#8216;Investments&#8217; standing empty for years to come,unless our States are prepared to put a stop to this. nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Havelet Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Havelet Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only issue with this new design is that it will completely take away the view of the people involved. Pay Attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only issue with this new design is that it will completely take away the view of the people involved. Pay Attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Sugared Brazil Nut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sugared Brazil Nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>INteresting edit of Woody&#039;s post at page 31 of the Press today. Seems we don&#039;t need Mr Logic (aka Ed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>INteresting edit of Woody&#8217;s post at page 31 of the Press today. Seems we don&#8217;t need Mr Logic (aka Ed).</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live onni Guernsey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live onni Guernsey</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed

Step in and sort this out mate</description>
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<p>Step in and sort this out mate</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;d live on Australia, on Greenland and on Vancouver..</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an island, noob....I live ON this island, country or not, ON an island...thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an island, noob&#8230;.I live ON this island, country or not, ON an island&#8230;thanks</p>
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