Comments on: We’d buy iPads for all if we could – minister

Comments on: We’d buy iPads for all if we could – minister http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/ Guernsey News, Sport, Community & Lifestyle Tue, 21 May 2013 10:47:26 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Walrus http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204743 Walrus Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:46:59 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204743 Yes but who funded these ipad's or whichever devices and how much are they over there? I had to save up my rubbish wages over several months to afford this "item of luxury" and won't be particularly happy if my taxes have to go to buying these for "other people's children" only for them to break them within ten minutes, or for the class bully to smash someone else's or try flush it down the bog! Yes but who funded these ipad’s or whichever devices and how much are they over there?

I had to save up my rubbish wages over several months to afford this “item of luxury” and won’t be particularly happy if my taxes have to go to buying these for “other people’s children” only for them to break them within ten minutes, or for the class bully to smash someone else’s or try flush it down the bog!

]]> By: Dan http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204543 Dan Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:03:54 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204543 After following the debate on secondary pupils having IPads for a few days now, I feel it would now be appropriate for a member of the Education Department be given the opportunity to explain to the public how they envisage this equipment being used in schools. It seems there is a common (false) belief that the teachers want the pupils to have IPads to avoid teaching. As a primary teacher with a keen interest in using ICT to ENHANCE teaching, I believe this is a great initiative - particularly as the pupils will have access to the educational software used in schools. In addition to this, the Virtual Learning Environment that has already been piloted by some schools will be incorporated into the use of the IPads. After following the debate on secondary pupils having IPads for a few days now, I feel it would now be appropriate for a member of the Education Department be given the opportunity to explain to the public how they envisage this equipment being used in schools. It seems there is a common (false) belief that the teachers want the pupils to have IPads to avoid teaching. As a primary teacher with a keen interest in using ICT to ENHANCE teaching, I believe this is a great initiative – particularly as the pupils will have access to the educational software used in schools. In addition to this, the Virtual Learning Environment that has already been piloted by some schools will be incorporated into the use of the IPads.

]]> By: Rustylink http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204367 Rustylink Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:46:22 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204367 That rate of redundancy indicates just how fast traditional education needs updating. The restless evolution of technology applications is changing the nature of society and the economic opportunities that are opening up for the younger generation, and those adults prepared to recognise that change is already present. That rate of redundancy indicates just how fast traditional education needs updating. The restless evolution of technology applications is changing the nature of society and the economic opportunities that are opening up for the younger generation, and those adults prepared to recognise that change is already present.

]]> By: Stone age man http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204363 Stone age man Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:42:39 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204363 Cant believe you are just thinking about this issue now my wife works in the primary education system in Australian and the kids here have been using tablets for some time now, the kids with learning problems seem to get a lot of benefit from using them. Surly Guernsey cant be that far behind the times ......but then i guess that's why I left the place in the first place Cant believe you are just thinking about this issue now my wife works in the primary education system in Australian and the kids here have been using tablets for some time now, the kids with learning problems seem to get a lot of benefit from using them.
Surly Guernsey cant be that far behind the times ……but then i guess that’s why I left the place in the first place

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]]> By: Ben http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204266 Ben Fri, 23 Nov 2012 18:11:07 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204266 My son plays with our iPads all the time. He is 2 years old, and thanks largely to the educational games we have downloaded for him, can count proficiently, recognise patterns and he has fantastic motor skills and hand-eye coordination. I'm not sure they are the way to go for secondary pupils, I would suggest they are better for a slightly younger generation, before moving on to a "proper" computer for secondary school. No matter how much apple, google and microsoft fight it out in the next few years, we are all still going to be using traditional keyboards and mice at work for the foreseeable, and training kids up to use them makes more sense to me. My son plays with our iPads all the time. He is 2 years old, and thanks largely to the educational games we have downloaded for him, can count proficiently, recognise patterns and he has fantastic motor skills and hand-eye coordination.

I’m not sure they are the way to go for secondary pupils, I would suggest they are better for a slightly younger generation, before moving on to a “proper” computer for secondary school.

No matter how much apple, google and microsoft fight it out in the next few years, we are all still going to be using traditional keyboards and mice at work for the foreseeable, and training kids up to use them makes more sense to me.

]]> By: Le Andre http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204262 Le Andre Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:47:57 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204262 If only Newton and Einstein had had these - they would have been so much cleverer. If only Newton and Einstein had had these – they would have been so much cleverer.

]]> By: Disgruntled http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204213 Disgruntled Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:14:27 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204213 No doubt we have a business man running education with no experience of education. It's time Guernsey schools had a board of governors to oversee what is going on, they would be able if set up properly to assess ideas like this round of silliness and chuck it out. I do have a lot of experience of technology In both school and colleges it only works if properly thought out is educationally justifiable, and has appropriately trained staff. It seems to me this is a whim that is only half thought through. No doubt we have a business man running education with no experience of education. It’s time Guernsey schools had a board of governors to oversee what is going on, they would be able if set up properly to assess ideas like this
round of silliness and chuck it out. I do have a lot of experience of technology
In both school and colleges it only works if properly thought out is educationally justifiable, and has appropriately trained staff. It seems to me this is a whim that is only half thought through.

]]> By: j http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204203 j Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:55:16 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204203 E-textbooks are a huge potential saving. The only problem being that you can't read the text book and make notes on the table at the same time E-textbooks are a huge potential saving.

The only problem being that you can’t read the text book and make notes on the table at the same time

]]> By: Neil http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204187 Neil Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:22:09 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204187 P.S. Apple is similar to Jersey Royals, starch and marketing. There are better potatoes out there! P.S. Apple is similar to Jersey Royals, starch and marketing. There are better potatoes out there!

]]> By: Neil http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204186 Neil Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:20:42 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204186 With Primary and Juniro school children, I'm struggling to agree with that they should move to tablets. Writing to a reasonable standard and being able to 'think' through numeracy, I would have thought would be better. Secondary school up, no problem. We are in the digital age. With Primary and Juniro school children, I’m struggling to agree with that they should move to tablets. Writing to a reasonable standard and being able to ‘think’ through numeracy, I would have thought would be better.

Secondary school up, no problem. We are in the digital age.

]]> By: Stiletto http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204160 Stiletto Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:21:28 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204160 Let's just think about this - public enterprise don't come up with funding; will said children who are already in possession of an iPad2 or similar be allowed to bring and, use them, into the classroom? I rather hope not since this could create a 'them and us' situation. Many parents struggle to buy blazers for their offspring and don't need further financial constraints on tight budgets. Why don't our Deputies kick start public enterprise and have a whip round at their Christmas Do? Let’s just think about this – public enterprise don’t come up with funding; will said children who are already in possession of an iPad2 or similar be allowed to bring and, use them, into the classroom? I rather hope not since this could create a ‘them and us’ situation. Many parents struggle to buy blazers for their offspring and don’t need further financial constraints on tight budgets.

Why don’t our Deputies kick start public enterprise and have a whip round at their Christmas Do?

]]> By: sarnia expat http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204154 sarnia expat Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:09:21 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204154 Thank you for remembering me Dani, yes, I saw this in the paper yesterday, and at the same time had a really nice email from the Salvation Army saying the same. It just goes to show that there are people with far more worries than wondering about iPads at schools. Thank you for remembering me Dani, yes, I saw this in the paper yesterday, and at the same time had a really nice email from the Salvation Army saying the same. It just goes to show that there are people with far more worries than wondering about iPads at schools.

]]> By: Dad http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204150 Dad Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:03:49 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204150 I have a couple of children in their first school year attending reception class. They have access to an ipad at home and it's wonderful for the learning apps available for their age group. The phonics and maths apps are providing a real boost to their schooling whilst feeling fun to them at the same time. I have a couple of children in their first school year attending reception class. They have access to an ipad at home and it’s wonderful for the learning apps available for their age group. The phonics and maths apps are providing a real boost to their schooling whilst feeling fun to them at the same time.

]]> By: J http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204147 J Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:00:13 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204147 IT's not about learning how to use the operating system. I'm guessing there are very few school kids who don;t knwo how to use a computer be it windows or mac os. The ipad environment is highly regulated so can be configured to provide a more secure system with greater safe guards. Managing antivirus and device security on 2000 windows pc's would be a nightmare, as would be managing software. With the right tools managing 2000 iPads is simple and if required the device could be locked down to a very tightly controlled level. IT’s not about learning how to use the operating system.

I’m guessing there are very few school kids who don;t knwo how to use a computer be it windows or mac os.

The ipad environment is highly regulated so can be configured to provide a more secure system with greater safe guards.

Managing antivirus and device security on 2000 windows pc’s would be a nightmare, as would be managing software.

With the right tools managing 2000 iPads is simple and if required the device could be locked down to a very tightly controlled level.

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/11/23/wed-buy-ipads-for-all-if-we-could-%e2%80%93-minister/#comment-204142 Devil's Advocate Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:46:04 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=156744#comment-204142 Can any education professionals point me to some evidence that tablets are better than books and pens? The only potential benefit I can see would be if all the childs textbooks are digitised and put on one thus negating the need to carry loads of books around. Can any education professionals point me to some evidence that tablets are better than books and pens? The only potential benefit I can see would be if all the childs textbooks are digitised and put on one thus negating the need to carry loads of books around.

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