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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it...... how would this encourage more people to cycle and walk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it&#8230;&#8230; how would this encourage more people to cycle and walk?</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray.  Dream on anticipating the 1950&#039;s if you want but for those of us living in the real world, the conflicts of increased population coupled with increased demand cannot be ignored for ever.  And the longer it is ignored the more painful the solution.  

A &#039;traffic problem&#039; is not just defined by how frequently you have traffic jams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray.  Dream on anticipating the 1950&#8242;s if you want but for those of us living in the real world, the conflicts of increased population coupled with increased demand cannot be ignored for ever.  And the longer it is ignored the more painful the solution.  </p>
<p>A &#8216;traffic problem&#8217; is not just defined by how frequently you have traffic jams.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m slighty concerned you might actually be serious - maybe if you are walking back from Town at 2 in the morning slightly worse for wear and stumbled off the pavement just around Morley Corner as I drive through you could then remind me that 60mph is perfectly safe once I&#039;ve finished scraping you off my windscreen!

Probably not one of your better ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slighty concerned you might actually be serious &#8211; maybe if you are walking back from Town at 2 in the morning slightly worse for wear and stumbled off the pavement just around Morley Corner as I drive through you could then remind me that 60mph is perfectly safe once I&#8217;ve finished scraping you off my windscreen!</p>
<p>Probably not one of your better ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Rosie

Let&#039;s all look forward to the 1950&#039;s

You keep walking,I&#039;ll keep driving and that way we&#039;ll cancel each other out

Problem solved</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Rosie</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all look forward to the 1950&#8242;s</p>
<p>You keep walking,I&#8217;ll keep driving and that way we&#8217;ll cancel each other out</p>
<p>Problem solved</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray:  Once again you are confusing a &#039;traffic problem&#039;  with a &#039;traffic jam&#039; when in fact the latter is merely one of the many consequences of the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray:  Once again you are confusing a &#8216;traffic problem&#8217;  with a &#8216;traffic jam&#8217; when in fact the latter is merely one of the many consequences of the former.</p>
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		<title>By: bcb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With that kind of mentality i would imagine YOUR dangerous at any speed :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With that kind of mentality i would imagine YOUR dangerous at any speed :).</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of those speeds are exactly fast, and certainly not dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of those speeds are exactly fast, and certainly not dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Langlois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Langlois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re a lunatic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re a lunatic</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d have to stagger it, so drop it down to 40 way before the school, and then down to 30, then down to 20.  After the school raise it to 40 and leave it there until you get to the bottom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d have to stagger it, so drop it down to 40 way before the school, and then down to 30, then down to 20.  After the school raise it to 40 and leave it there until you get to the bottom.</p>
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		<title>By: Glanzstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glanzstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So for Hougette school people would be jumping on the anchors down from 60 (or 50) down to 20mph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So for Hougette school people would be jumping on the anchors down from 60 (or 50) down to 20mph</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most coast roads, plaisance road, the road going past the mallard, and a couple of the larger arterial routes in the north of the islands, all 60mph.  Forest Rd plus some arterial routes of a medium size, 50mph.  Keep all the existing built up areas/25mph limits as they are, but make 100 yards either side of schools 20mph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most coast roads, plaisance road, the road going past the mallard, and a couple of the larger arterial routes in the north of the islands, all 60mph.  Forest Rd plus some arterial routes of a medium size, 50mph.  Keep all the existing built up areas/25mph limits as they are, but make 100 yards either side of schools 20mph.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Langlois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Langlois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having ridden with the velo club a lot, I have never heard anyone use language like that.  In fact, I&#039;ve never heard anyone shout to push another along - that is not part of the culture of cycling.  If the rider in front is tiring or going too slow, you move to the front, take the wind and pick up the pace yourself.  Maybe it happened once (probably in jest) and you were unfortunately in earshot, but it happens no more than you&#039;d hear in other walks of life (walking past a building site for example?), so a bit unfair to raise it as a general criticism.

Riding 3 to 4 abreast is wrong and the velo club gives clear instructions to its members not to do that, and to generally ride with consideration for other road users.  Again, I have very rarely seen this - maybe at the start of the larger events before the groups string out, but it is not general practice.

Of course, not every group of cyclists has anything to do with the velo club.  There are many informal groups of mates who get together for a ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having ridden with the velo club a lot, I have never heard anyone use language like that.  In fact, I&#8217;ve never heard anyone shout to push another along &#8211; that is not part of the culture of cycling.  If the rider in front is tiring or going too slow, you move to the front, take the wind and pick up the pace yourself.  Maybe it happened once (probably in jest) and you were unfortunately in earshot, but it happens no more than you&#8217;d hear in other walks of life (walking past a building site for example?), so a bit unfair to raise it as a general criticism.</p>
<p>Riding 3 to 4 abreast is wrong and the velo club gives clear instructions to its members not to do that, and to generally ride with consideration for other road users.  Again, I have very rarely seen this &#8211; maybe at the start of the larger events before the groups string out, but it is not general practice.</p>
<p>Of course, not every group of cyclists has anything to do with the velo club.  There are many informal groups of mates who get together for a ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Langlois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Langlois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - maybe this is not true of your comments, but most of the complaints that you see on these pages about (some) cyclists are not about whether they are putting themselves in danger but more along the lines of &quot;why can&#039;t they get out of my way, they&#039;ve held me up for 10 seconds and I have a greater right to the road than they do...&quot; 

the simple fact is that we all have a right to use the road, we all need a bit of give and take, we all need some basic courtesy, none of us should endanger anyone else, none of us should inconvenience others any more than is absolutely necessary.

most cyclists are drivers anyway, so this &quot;them and us&quot; attitude is misplaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; maybe this is not true of your comments, but most of the complaints that you see on these pages about (some) cyclists are not about whether they are putting themselves in danger but more along the lines of &#8220;why can&#8217;t they get out of my way, they&#8217;ve held me up for 10 seconds and I have a greater right to the road than they do&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>the simple fact is that we all have a right to use the road, we all need a bit of give and take, we all need some basic courtesy, none of us should endanger anyone else, none of us should inconvenience others any more than is absolutely necessary.</p>
<p>most cyclists are drivers anyway, so this &#8220;them and us&#8221; attitude is misplaced.</p>
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		<title>By: markB</title>
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		<dc:creator>markB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst  Cyclist are getting a bashing on this site ...Could I ask the cycle clubs and their members that use the roads for their race meetings  to stop shouting and swearing like Eastend Butchers with Piles.

I fully understand they are pushing each other to get good times etc  but “Get a move on you F’ing C- -T”   is not what I or kids what to hear as they pass by.

Also can they stop riding 3 to 4 abreast having a good old chin wag while the traffic is queued up behind them,  at least let the traffic  pass then carry on with the old chit chat....happy cycling!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst  Cyclist are getting a bashing on this site &#8230;Could I ask the cycle clubs and their members that use the roads for their race meetings  to stop shouting and swearing like Eastend Butchers with Piles.</p>
<p>I fully understand they are pushing each other to get good times etc  but “Get a move on you F’ing C- -T”   is not what I or kids what to hear as they pass by.</p>
<p>Also can they stop riding 3 to 4 abreast having a good old chin wag while the traffic is queued up behind them,  at least let the traffic  pass then carry on with the old chit chat&#8230;.happy cycling!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rosie

Your tram would only be useful for those who live on or close to that route

Not much use to commuters who live anywhere North of Braye Road</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rosie</p>
<p>Your tram would only be useful for those who live on or close to that route</p>
<p>Not much use to commuters who live anywhere North of Braye Road</p>
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