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Comments on: Skatepark ‘is too close to pitch’ http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/ Guernsey News, Sport, Community & Lifestyle Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:12:45 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Dan http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-217685 Dan Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:05:57 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-217685 how long has it taken for us to get this park built and when it finaly happens someone has to try and take our joy away. The one thing this island seriously needa to do is take a long hard look at its self the people have nothing better to do then moan about sReomething that can only benifit this place u can play football anywhere u like but u cant ride or skate because u get penalized this is a purpose built facilty which is far far over due because the state wouldnt help as usual so we with the ki.d help of local busnisses mananged to do it ourselves so if u are worried about the size of the pitch so much y dnt u diy theres plenty of places over here for football wat about the vale school playo.g feilds whens that ever used can u imagine prifessial bmxers skaters coming over to c a new park thats had to b restricted in size because if a football we would b the laughing stock get a life get over it how long has it taken for us to get this park built and when it finaly happens someone has to try and take our joy away. The one thing this island seriously needa to do is take a long hard look at its self the people have nothing better to do then moan about sReomething that can only benifit this place u can play football anywhere u like but u cant ride or skate because u get penalized this is a purpose built facilty which is far far over due because the state wouldnt help as usual so we with the ki.d help of local busnisses mananged to do it ourselves so if u are worried about the size of the pitch so much y dnt u diy theres plenty of places over here for football wat about the vale school playo.g feilds whens that ever used can u imagine prifessial bmxers skaters coming over to c a new park thats had to b restricted in size because if a football we would b the laughing stock get a life get over it

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]]> By: John le page http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-217653 John le page Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:29:18 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-217653 What a loser. Get a life. Give the skaters a park it's very cool. What a loser. Get a life. Give the skaters a park it’s very cool.

]]> By: Alex Cross http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-217300 Alex Cross Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:15:01 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-217300 I appreciate he shouldn't be attacked personally, however the point remains that plans have been available for some considerable length of time, and that our development permission notice was up on the site for months. I really don't think ignorance can be claimed here. As for the not being the best site, as i have said - this is far from the first site we tried to secure, there's always somebody who wants to make a complaint about our plans, it just happens this was one where (to my knowledge) no complains were ever raised. I appreciate he shouldn’t be attacked personally, however the point remains that plans have been available for some considerable length of time, and that our development permission notice was up on the site for months. I really don’t think ignorance can be claimed here.

As for the not being the best site, as i have said – this is far from the first site we tried to secure, there’s always somebody who wants to make a complaint about our plans, it just happens this was one where (to my knowledge) no complains were ever raised.

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]]> By: Andy http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-217047 Andy Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:12:19 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-217047 I have known Rod for years and feel the criticism he has received here is unfair. It was generally understood by many that the skatepark would be where the old playground was but it has expanded much closer to the football pitch meaning it is more likely people will get hit - and if they're travelling on a skateboard or bike at the time, then injuries could happen. Rod is not saying there should not be a skatepark but just that it may not be in the best place. To those who say, the footballers should get the ball in the goal, even Lionel Messi misses sometimes! A fence is all well and good but how high will it be? There will be many stray balls flying over the top of it. Yes, he is trying to look after his own sport, which he should in his position which takes up a huge amount of his time, but he is also trying to look out for others so should not get the personal abuse some have left here. I have known Rod for years and feel the criticism he has received here is unfair. It was generally understood by many that the skatepark would be where the old playground was but it has expanded much closer to the football pitch meaning it is more likely people will get hit – and if they’re travelling on a skateboard or bike at the time, then injuries could happen. Rod is not saying there should not be a skatepark but just that it may not be in the best place. To those who say, the footballers should get the ball in the goal, even Lionel Messi misses sometimes! A fence is all well and good but how high will it be? There will be many stray balls flying over the top of it.

Yes, he is trying to look after his own sport, which he should in his position which takes up a huge amount of his time, but he is also trying to look out for others so should not get the personal abuse some have left here.

]]> By: chris http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-216845 chris Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:02:04 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-216845 haha here check this out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNV3BsaoBig haha here check this out,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNV3BsaoBig

]]> By: Tron http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-216773 Tron Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:31:24 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-216773 I think the sports should combine to create a mega sport called 'skateballs'. "Poor old Rod" would be dipped in honey and covered in cornflakes and would be presented to the winners of the 'skateballs' championship! I think the sports should combine to create a mega sport called ‘skateballs’. “Poor old Rod” would be dipped in honey and covered in cornflakes and would be presented to the winners of the ‘skateballs’ championship!

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]]> By: spongedave http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-216328 spongedave Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:48:30 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-216328 might be better if the players could stick the ball in the net rather than blazing miles high and wide.... might be better if the players could stick the ball in the net rather than blazing miles high and wide….

]]> By: mista joon http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-216289 mista joon Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:59:44 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-216289 Alex Look at my reply above to Luke However, once we have ignored the sensationalism, there is no reason why both sports cannot co-exist on that site Alex
Look at my reply above to Luke

However, once we have ignored the sensationalism, there is no reason why both sports cannot co-exist on that site

]]> By: chris http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-216245 chris Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:08:20 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-216245 i can see where your comming from but hes angered alot of people by running to the press and potentialy jeopardizing years of planning and "private" funding for what? because he thinks its to close to a goal post? and the parks to big? who is he to say that? i bet that guys never actualy seen a skate park! or know what there about, the issue he seems to have can easily be resolved with the GXSA without the need to go to the press with words like "saftey hazard" and "dangerous" just to grab the attention of someone that has the power to do something in his favour! pathetic! and very very selfish concidering beausy has other football pitchs on that same site! i honestly dont think any skate park user will have a problem with footballs, the biggest worry is the concrete but crashing is part of skatepark sports and thats something everyone accepts everytime they enter the park. if someone had of done something because of his little tantrum in the guernsey press , with planning permission and finding another site it might be another 4+ years of waitng! how longs enough? theres enough football pitchs on this island not to mention you can play football in most peoples back gardens + on the common, even if they have to sacrifice one football pitch in the grand scheme of things its nothing, i can see where your comming from but hes angered alot of people by running to the press and potentialy jeopardizing years of planning and “private” funding for what? because he thinks its to close to a goal post? and the parks to big? who is he to say that? i bet that guys never actualy seen a skate park! or know what there about, the issue he seems to have can easily be resolved with the GXSA without the need to go to the press with words like “saftey hazard” and “dangerous” just to grab the attention of someone that has the power to do something in his favour! pathetic! and very very selfish concidering beausy has other football pitchs on that same site!
i honestly dont think any skate park user will have a problem with footballs, the biggest worry is the concrete but crashing is part of skatepark sports and thats something everyone accepts everytime they enter the park. if someone had of done something because of his little tantrum in the guernsey press , with planning permission and finding another site it might be another 4+ years of waitng! how longs enough? theres enough football pitchs on this island not to mention you can play football in most peoples back gardens + on the common, even if they have to sacrifice one football pitch in the grand scheme of things its nothing,

]]> By: Alex Cross http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-216241 Alex Cross Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:36:20 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-216241 A fence is already in our plan. With all due respect to Mr Hamon, if he had looked at the plans before spades were in the ground he would be well aware of that, the size/location of the park have hardly been a secret. I appreciate he wants to protect his sport on the island, this just really seems to be a non-issue when there is room for both parties to safely exist at the same site, as many have said already, who would be more at risk, teenage/fully grown skaters, or toddlers? A fence is already in our plan. With all due respect to Mr Hamon, if he had looked at the plans before spades were in the ground he would be well aware of that, the size/location of the park have hardly been a secret.

I appreciate he wants to protect his sport on the island, this just really seems to be a non-issue when there is room for both parties to safely exist at the same site, as many have said already, who would be more at risk, teenage/fully grown skaters, or toddlers?

]]> By: QDB http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-216144 QDB Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:54:17 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-216144 Wow! Person A shows concern over a "risk" to Person B....Person B abuses and feels open derogatory remark is his divine right. Come on people, anyone can raise a concern, but if it is unfounded then a polite response is all that is needed, not personal unfounded and inaccurate judgement in an open forum. For decades we have wanted a bike/skate park that will fit in the community. Yes it is a great achievement and the fund raising should not be put into question. Yet when the first person shows concern, many here seem happy to suggest the other community sport move on or resort to simply defaming it! What happens in the future IF, and only IF (to give you another scenario) somebody gets an injury in the park after getting hit by a ball? Clearly a civil and intelligent communication between these parties is severely lacking and puts at risk a civil resolution to that scenario. What’s going to happen? Will you end up suing each other and close down either or both facilities? There appears to be an “if you don’t like it then move on attitude” from those who seem to be supporting, or possibly heavily involved in the Skate park on this forum. That is not what has been campaigned for all of these years. Yes it has been frustrating and a long, long time in coming but if it wasn’t Mr H raising the concern should you not be raising it yourselves and looking for a resolution? Put up some fencing, remove the risk or alleviate the concern through decent conversation and arrangement. Simple and decent behaviour, end of. Wow! Person A shows concern over a “risk” to Person B….Person B abuses and feels open derogatory remark is his divine right.

Come on people, anyone can raise a concern, but if it is unfounded then a polite response is all that is needed, not personal unfounded and inaccurate judgement in an open forum.

For decades we have wanted a bike/skate park that will fit in the community. Yes it is a great achievement and the fund raising should not be put into question. Yet when the first person shows concern, many here seem happy to suggest the other community sport move on or resort to simply defaming it!

What happens in the future IF, and only IF (to give you another scenario) somebody gets an injury in the park after getting hit by a ball? Clearly a civil and intelligent communication between these parties is severely lacking and puts at risk a civil resolution to that scenario. What’s going to happen? Will you end up suing each other and close down either or both facilities?

There appears to be an “if you don’t like it then move on attitude” from those who seem to be supporting, or possibly heavily involved in the Skate park on this forum. That is not what has been campaigned for all of these years. Yes it has been frustrating and a long, long time in coming but if it wasn’t Mr H raising the concern should you not be raising it yourselves and looking for a resolution?

Put up some fencing, remove the risk or alleviate the concern through decent conversation and arrangement. Simple and decent behaviour, end of.

]]> By: mista joon http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-215954 mista joon Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:57:25 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-215954 Luke The real issue here is that while the plans were available for anyone who could be bothered to make the effort to go to Frossard House, the information in the GEP article at the time merely referred to the skatepark being on the site of the former children's playground. As I recall, no mention was made regarding the park actually being bigger than the playground. Hence once construction work starts, those who feel they have been misled will naturally want to have their say, and the best way to do this is via the GEP. Luke

The real issue here is that while the plans were available for anyone who could be bothered to make the effort to go to Frossard House, the information in the GEP article at the time merely referred to the skatepark being on the site of the former children’s playground.

As I recall, no mention was made regarding the park actually being bigger than the playground.

Hence once construction work starts, those who feel they have been misled will naturally want to have their say, and the best way to do this is via the GEP.

]]> By: PLP http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-215752 PLP Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:32:57 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-215752 The "skatey types" have managed to raise a quarter of a million pounds during an economic slowdown for a project that isn't exactly mainstream. Frankly I'd say they've done pretty well. "Poor old Rod" as you call him had plenty of time to make submissions, it's not like the skatepark idea just appeared out of thin air last week. The “skatey types” have managed to raise a quarter of a million pounds during an economic slowdown for a project that isn’t exactly mainstream. Frankly I’d say they’ve done pretty well. “Poor old Rod” as you call him had plenty of time to make submissions, it’s not like the skatepark idea just appeared out of thin air last week.

]]> By: CSR http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-215697 CSR Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:39:32 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-215697 "Grown men kicking a bag of wind around! Get a life!" Sounds just like recent States meetings :-) “Grown men kicking a bag of wind around! Get a life!”

Sounds just like recent States meetings :-)

]]> By: Luke Vidamour http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/12/14/skatepark-is-too-close-to-pitch/#comment-215554 Luke Vidamour Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:56:07 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=162219#comment-215554 250,000 privately raised in how long? 5 years? i think thats not a bad effort at all! It is that time and commitment which is the reason so many people involved feel strongly about defending the plans and building of the project. especially when this issue could have been addressed during planning stages in the appropriate manner with the appropriate parties involved, not running to the paper. Its just totally the wrong way to go about it. The fact it has taken until building has begun is ridiculous. Anyway, it doesn't really matter as its been privately funded & planning approved. This park will be used 7 days a week not for 90 minutes on a saturday. That pitch is one of three on the premises, and its use isn't even compromised by the new skate facility. As the image above shows there is a clear 25+ foot of grass between the goal and the area that has been turfed for construction, and there will be a perimeter fence around the park that from what i hear will be about chest high? Im sure hes a nice guy but what a poor attitude to approach this whole situation in. The league uses the pitch for a few hours on a saturday. The park is 30 foot from the goal line. I really cant see what there is to complain about? 250,000 privately raised in how long? 5 years? i think thats not a bad effort at all! It is that time and commitment which is the reason so many people involved feel strongly about defending the plans and building of the project. especially when this issue could have been addressed during planning stages in the appropriate manner with the appropriate parties involved, not running to the paper.

Its just totally the wrong way to go about it. The fact it has taken until building has begun is ridiculous.

Anyway, it doesn’t really matter as its been privately funded & planning approved. This park will be used 7 days a week not for 90 minutes on a saturday. That pitch is one of three on the premises, and its use isn’t even compromised by the new skate facility. As the image above shows there is a clear 25+ foot of grass between the goal and the area that has been turfed for construction, and there will be a perimeter fence around the park that from what i hear will be about chest high?

Im sure hes a nice guy but what a poor attitude to approach this whole situation in. The league uses the pitch for a few hours on a saturday. The park is 30 foot from the goal line.

I really cant see what there is to complain about?

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