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		<title>By: Longtime Sark Visitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longtime Sark Visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sark&#039;s current population was set up to  prevent the island being used by pirates/privateers hostile to the UK ... thus the feudal set-up, with 40 parcels of land inherited by the eldest son ... to ensure 40 &quot;Men with Muskets&quot; for the defence of the island against enemies  of the English Crown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sark&#8217;s current population was set up to  prevent the island being used by pirates/privateers hostile to the UK &#8230; thus the feudal set-up, with 40 parcels of land inherited by the eldest son &#8230; to ensure 40 &#8220;Men with Muskets&#8221; for the defence of the island against enemies  of the English Crown.</p>
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		<title>By: Outsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can no one from either side see how damaging this is? The Panorama programme uncovered some sordid practices, but was obviously personal. Private Eye continues to focus on Barclays damaging the island, but no comment on any benefit.
I meet people on both sides of the fence and have no idea who is less in the wrong. All I know is I would be reluctant to visit given the poor publicity.
Sit down and discuss before it&#039;s too late for all concerned!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can no one from either side see how damaging this is? The Panorama programme uncovered some sordid practices, but was obviously personal. Private Eye continues to focus on Barclays damaging the island, but no comment on any benefit.<br />
I meet people on both sides of the fence and have no idea who is less in the wrong. All I know is I would be reluctant to visit given the poor publicity.<br />
Sit down and discuss before it&#8217;s too late for all concerned!!!</p>
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		<title>By: razzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>razzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@glass houses

Sigh. The endless innuendo and pursuit of personal vendettas that seeps from behind the protection of the cash-mountain is keeping businesses and employment away from Sark.

It&#039;s also going according to plan  poisoning some of the more feeble minds in the community. But not enough to make a democratic difference.

The economic plight of Sark seems to be inexorably entangled with the impression of life on Sark that the Island Pariah (NOT Parish!) and the SNL conveys to the outside world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@glass houses</p>
<p>Sigh. The endless innuendo and pursuit of personal vendettas that seeps from behind the protection of the cash-mountain is keeping businesses and employment away from Sark.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also going according to plan  poisoning some of the more feeble minds in the community. But not enough to make a democratic difference.</p>
<p>The economic plight of Sark seems to be inexorably entangled with the impression of life on Sark that the Island Pariah (NOT Parish!) and the SNL conveys to the outside world.</p>
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		<title>By: glass houses</title>
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		<dc:creator>glass houses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Razzer wrote &quot;Some of the personal comments made about Paul Arditti in past issues (SNL #18 in particular) appear carefully designed to do more than merely “inform”.&quot;

Two words, Razzer. SMOKE, FIRE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razzer wrote &#8220;Some of the personal comments made about Paul Arditti in past issues (SNL #18 in particular) appear carefully designed to do more than merely “inform”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two words, Razzer. SMOKE, FIRE.</p>
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		<title>By: razzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>razzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreeing and amplifying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreeing and amplifying</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Le P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Le P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Razzer not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razzer not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me?</p>
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		<title>By: David Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Would this be permissible in the UK?&quot;

Yes it would, at least in England. (I know this because I am a school governor). Schools are empowered by law to offer community functions its called being an &quot;extended school&quot; This would include being able to run a licensed bar subject to the conditions that would be imposed by the licensing authorities. 

Schools also frequently get special licences for particular occasions, and school PTA&#039;s frequently sell alcohol on social occasions.

My son&#039;s school in London serves wine to parents at various receptions..

And so forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would this be permissible in the UK?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes it would, at least in England. (I know this because I am a school governor). Schools are empowered by law to offer community functions its called being an &#8220;extended school&#8221; This would include being able to run a licensed bar subject to the conditions that would be imposed by the licensing authorities. </p>
<p>Schools also frequently get special licences for particular occasions, and school PTA&#8217;s frequently sell alcohol on social occasions.</p>
<p>My son&#8217;s school in London serves wine to parents at various receptions..</p>
<p>And so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Razzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam

If you are victim of the 2% of bent coppers, then you will take little comfort from stats.

I am not alluding to corruption on Sark, where as you rightly say, the chance of anyone &quot;getting away&quot; with anything always was slim; but with all the paraphernalia of modern technology and Sam the Spy lurking in the bushes, it is now nigh-on impossible! 

It&#039;s the Motherland that bothers me. Whitehall (apparently now patrolled by 2% liars with guns) is being presumptuous on the matter of telling Sark how it should operate and merely wants Sark to go away and stop being a nuisance. If the government wanted to get stuck in and resolve the key issue facing Sark, it should not have put a career waffler like Lord McNally in charge. 

Here he is - talking inter-alia of the PCC of all things!

http://youtu.be/vEHhrKMUQh0

And here is on the matter of &quot;unlocking disputes&quot;

http://youtu.be/qyXtUuDd8mQ

You could not make it up, could you?

We must not so lightly dismiss the SNL. I know for sure that its intemperate ranting has driven people and would-be investors from coming to the island.

Sticks and stones maybe, but a weekly vat of boiling bile and venom amounts to more than a few sticks and stones. What assurance is there for an incoming businessperson that their lives will not be investigated if their business does not happen to suit the new feudalism of the SEM? Some of the personal comments made about Paul Arditti in past issues (SNL #18 in particular) appear carefully designed to do more than merely &quot;inform&quot;.

We must make no excuses for not taking the matter straight to the Barclays and forcing them to face their responsibilities at last. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam</p>
<p>If you are victim of the 2% of bent coppers, then you will take little comfort from stats.</p>
<p>I am not alluding to corruption on Sark, where as you rightly say, the chance of anyone &#8220;getting away&#8221; with anything always was slim; but with all the paraphernalia of modern technology and Sam the Spy lurking in the bushes, it is now nigh-on impossible! </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Motherland that bothers me. Whitehall (apparently now patrolled by 2% liars with guns) is being presumptuous on the matter of telling Sark how it should operate and merely wants Sark to go away and stop being a nuisance. If the government wanted to get stuck in and resolve the key issue facing Sark, it should not have put a career waffler like Lord McNally in charge. </p>
<p>Here he is &#8211; talking inter-alia of the PCC of all things!</p>
<p><a href="http://youtu.be/vEHhrKMUQh0" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/vEHhrKMUQh0</a></p>
<p>And here is on the matter of &#8220;unlocking disputes&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://youtu.be/qyXtUuDd8mQ" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/qyXtUuDd8mQ</a></p>
<p>You could not make it up, could you?</p>
<p>We must not so lightly dismiss the SNL. I know for sure that its intemperate ranting has driven people and would-be investors from coming to the island.</p>
<p>Sticks and stones maybe, but a weekly vat of boiling bile and venom amounts to more than a few sticks and stones. What assurance is there for an incoming businessperson that their lives will not be investigated if their business does not happen to suit the new feudalism of the SEM? Some of the personal comments made about Paul Arditti in past issues (SNL #18 in particular) appear carefully designed to do more than merely &#8220;inform&#8221;.</p>
<p>We must make no excuses for not taking the matter straight to the Barclays and forcing them to face their responsibilities at last.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Razzer,
Many years ago I was told some statistics and although I no longer have the exact figures, they covered the percentage of some form of crime and corruption in every 100 members of society. One or two people in every hundred will be corrupt in one way or another, One or two will be dishonest, no matter what their occupation. It is up to the honest one&#039;s to root out corruption and dishonesty.

Now my guess is that those figures have increased over the years, so in a force the size of the metropolitan police, there will always be corruption and dishonesty, but 98% will be honest, so we must not let things get out of proportion just because media make big play on the dishonest or corrupt ones.

Sark&#039;s Chief Pleas has been voted in democratically, everybody knows those on the committee, the chance of corruption, looking at the above figures, is very small and would not be tolerated for very long.

The SNL is a rag and should just be dismissed out of hand. It&#039;s fighting a losing battle so just ignore it. Difficult I know when you are the subject of its venom, but it&#039;s not worth the paper it&#039;s written on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razzer,<br />
Many years ago I was told some statistics and although I no longer have the exact figures, they covered the percentage of some form of crime and corruption in every 100 members of society. One or two people in every hundred will be corrupt in one way or another, One or two will be dishonest, no matter what their occupation. It is up to the honest one&#8217;s to root out corruption and dishonesty.</p>
<p>Now my guess is that those figures have increased over the years, so in a force the size of the metropolitan police, there will always be corruption and dishonesty, but 98% will be honest, so we must not let things get out of proportion just because media make big play on the dishonest or corrupt ones.</p>
<p>Sark&#8217;s Chief Pleas has been voted in democratically, everybody knows those on the committee, the chance of corruption, looking at the above figures, is very small and would not be tolerated for very long.</p>
<p>The SNL is a rag and should just be dismissed out of hand. It&#8217;s fighting a losing battle so just ignore it. Difficult I know when you are the subject of its venom, but it&#8217;s not worth the paper it&#8217;s written on.</p>
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		<title>By: Musty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he should call himself &quot;Sarkmouse&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he should call himself &#8220;Sarkmouse&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Musty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - I can tell you write from the heart with more sincerity than many here, and your contribution gains value accordingly.

However, I can assure you that investors and businesses have been scared away from Sark by the endlessly bilious tripe spouted from the Sark News Letter.

No credible person could trust a word of what Delaney and his masters say. John Sweeney&#039;s exposure of the real encounter in the SEM office set against Delaney&#039;s hysterical reporting was surely the final nail in the coffin of his already marginal credibility. 

Sark needs to resolve the conflict - but you must understand that the SEM plans always were and remain fundamentally unsustainable. There never was or can be a sustainable tourist economy on the necessary scale - unless the Bs have been praying very hard and making such huge donations to the Catholic church that Sark wakes up one day to find itself magically transported some 400 miles south east.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; I can tell you write from the heart with more sincerity than many here, and your contribution gains value accordingly.</p>
<p>However, I can assure you that investors and businesses have been scared away from Sark by the endlessly bilious tripe spouted from the Sark News Letter.</p>
<p>No credible person could trust a word of what Delaney and his masters say. John Sweeney&#8217;s exposure of the real encounter in the SEM office set against Delaney&#8217;s hysterical reporting was surely the final nail in the coffin of his already marginal credibility. </p>
<p>Sark needs to resolve the conflict &#8211; but you must understand that the SEM plans always were and remain fundamentally unsustainable. There never was or can be a sustainable tourist economy on the necessary scale &#8211; unless the Bs have been praying very hard and making such huge donations to the Catholic church that Sark wakes up one day to find itself magically transported some 400 miles south east.</p>
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		<title>By: Razzer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are too kind, Nick! Who said the UK was democratic? The entire government is being wagged by its Libdem tail, who are lower in the polls than UKIP.

While we are speaking of corruption, let&#039;s ask Andrew Mitchell if he shares Kevin&#039;s blind faith in the &quot;official police&quot;. 

Overall, I am bemused why a corrupt minority UK administration and its politicised &quot;enforcers&quot; should be so presumptuous as to tell Sark how to conduct its affairs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are too kind, Nick! Who said the UK was democratic? The entire government is being wagged by its Libdem tail, who are lower in the polls than UKIP.</p>
<p>While we are speaking of corruption, let&#8217;s ask Andrew Mitchell if he shares Kevin&#8217;s blind faith in the &#8220;official police&#8221;. </p>
<p>Overall, I am bemused why a corrupt minority UK administration and its politicised &#8220;enforcers&#8221; should be so presumptuous as to tell Sark how to conduct its affairs?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Le P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Le P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 15:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the son of a Sarkee, whose family used to work for La Dame, and having much affection for the island the issue I have is this -
the Barclay brothers we well aware of how Sark was (Feudal) and that Brecqhou was a part of it, if they didn&#039;t like that they should have left well alone and bought an island somewhere else.  

Instead they have sought to challenge long held and established traditions and done so by using the power of cash to invest in the island. I am sure that was welcome but it now amounts to &quot;we&#039;ve invested so you should change&quot;. The SNL amounts to not much more than a weekly poison pen letter and to think it is not supported by the brothers is naive.

It is also naive to think that Chief Pleas is any more corrupt than any other Government. You only need to look at the abuse of expenses, cash for questions etc etc here in the democratic UK to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the son of a Sarkee, whose family used to work for La Dame, and having much affection for the island the issue I have is this -<br />
the Barclay brothers we well aware of how Sark was (Feudal) and that Brecqhou was a part of it, if they didn&#8217;t like that they should have left well alone and bought an island somewhere else.  </p>
<p>Instead they have sought to challenge long held and established traditions and done so by using the power of cash to invest in the island. I am sure that was welcome but it now amounts to &#8220;we&#8217;ve invested so you should change&#8221;. The SNL amounts to not much more than a weekly poison pen letter and to think it is not supported by the brothers is naive.</p>
<p>It is also naive to think that Chief Pleas is any more corrupt than any other Government. You only need to look at the abuse of expenses, cash for questions etc etc here in the democratic UK to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
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		<description>Sarkman,
You mean to say that &quot;Sarkman&quot; is your real name, or are you just hiding as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarkman,<br />
You mean to say that &#8220;Sarkman&#8221; is your real name, or are you just hiding as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Larky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larky</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;an island that will provide the dignity of labour for all&quot;

What condescending nonsense. The SEM plan always was unsustainable without changing the entire character of Sark - that 2008 disaster manifesto enshrined the inescapable and inconvenient truth of the thinking behind the plot. And even then it was a long shot given the random climate.

Delaney hides behind an impenetrable shield of others&#039; cash. The attempt to bankrupt the Hall trustees was a shameful but carefully calculated opening shot, and it worked.

The SNL even seems to be able breach BBC and GP copyright with sneering impunity as it continues to peddles bile, bullying, innuendo, insolence and intimidation.

This maybe the season of good will, but obviously hired agents provocateurs make it quite hard to remain Christian about it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an island that will provide the dignity of labour for all&#8221;</p>
<p>What condescending nonsense. The SEM plan always was unsustainable without changing the entire character of Sark &#8211; that 2008 disaster manifesto enshrined the inescapable and inconvenient truth of the thinking behind the plot. And even then it was a long shot given the random climate.</p>
<p>Delaney hides behind an impenetrable shield of others&#8217; cash. The attempt to bankrupt the Hall trustees was a shameful but carefully calculated opening shot, and it worked.</p>
<p>The SNL even seems to be able breach BBC and GP copyright with sneering impunity as it continues to peddles bile, bullying, innuendo, insolence and intimidation.</p>
<p>This maybe the season of good will, but obviously hired agents provocateurs make it quite hard to remain Christian about it all.</p>
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