Centralising computer system means 30 fewer States roles
Friday 4th January 2013, 8:30AM GMT.
MORE than 30 posts have been cut following the implementation of the new States-wide computer system, SAP, the Policy Council has confirmed.
The new system, which has included the creation of a Shared Transactional Service Centre to bring administrative work done by individual departments under one roof, went live this year.
It was originally expected that the financial transformation programme initiative, which is expected to save £1.7m. a year, would see the loss of roughly 50 civil service posts.
The Policy Council could not say whether it was likely that the number of posts cut would reach that number as the project bedded in. It is unclear how many actual staff have been cut.
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Any chance we can buy a piece of software that can reduce the number of States members?
I thought the States used the old but popular bookeeping program MYOB (Mind Your Own Business) – ironically titled really :)
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Perhaps membersof the Polilcy Council will be good enogh to provide exact figure of posts actually cut as a result of impplementing the new STates-wide coputer system.
What actual (including when), and future expectations, of staff/CS reduction do they have.
Cuts in CS posts are of little use if staff remains in another guise.
The public and members of the Assembly are entitled to hear from the responsible Minister or Deputy Harwood making these details explicit.
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Headline .. ‘Centralising computer system means 30 fewer States roles’
Bottom line .. ‘It is unclear how many actual staff have been cut’
Hmmm. It seems we may have to purchase another Guernsey Press on another day to get to the truth
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Its nice you are doing something that will improve the present system.
Hope it will help to improve other departments to improve their efficencies such as income tax who need more support in budgeting and extra staff for the very large backlog of tax returns.
Centralization is well overdue instead of duplication throughout departments.
Hopefully it will bring down the public pension schemes deficit too.
Its the way foreward to decreasing 4700 public servants from doing dupicate task.
We will watch this space with interest
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how many actually lost there jobs? i know of a couple who have lost there post, and they created another one, with more pay, that is fact.. please enlighten me.
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Perhaps the GP could find out how much this has actually cost to implement, I believe its millions which does not include the time spent testing by staff etc
So not much of a saving really, given this is the third Accounting software system the states have used in 10 years.
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would be fine if it worked but 3 days post live and it isn’t working properly and some people might have to be manually paid by cash / cheque!
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Silly headline grabbing press release.
1. SAP is an expensive system to set up, install and run (probably 3x more than the paper system used previously)
2. how much overtime has it cost the States to roll it out
3. 30 posts were HR manager who were transferred to Frossard House “Hub” under other names
I heard on the grapevine that currently:
1. the system isn’t working
2. payments can’t be made and there are worries about paying staff, contractors and suppliers
3. there is even more overtime needed to fix the problems
4. UK government got rid of SAP because it was a mess
All together, a waste of money! And who’s paying for it???
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Good one Binou
Well, there’s a half dozen ready made questions for any one of our budding newbie Deputies to ask at the next Question Time in the States
Question Time ,used properly ( i.e. by avoiding friendly planted Q’s)can be of more use to the general voting fodder than all the subsequent hours of waffle,constant repetition and interminable squabbling over the rules of debate which tend to pervade States meetings
Every States member should be forced to listen to a repeat of a whole States session so that they realise how often it descends into a Vicar of Dibley style farce
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Once again guernsey states get conned into investing into a crap system, we always seem to get lumbered with the rubbish the uk no longer want!!!!! Maybe that’s our problem there.
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Nice Headline, “…….30 fewer States Roles”. That means nobody lost their Jobs!
Good old States! Tax Payer will pick up the Bill!
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how many lost there jobs? please mr deputy, or civil servant let us know,
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Geezerboy. Learn to spell “Their” for God’s sake!
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non hobbit the reason for my spelling mistakes sometimes, is due to the damage caused by a severe stroke, but im getting there,think before you judge people
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I think the Guernsey press should look into this further.
Its all a complete sham.
Highly paid managers are now having to enter details into SAP which was previously the work of lesser paid administration staff.
THIS DOES NOT SAVE MONEY but costs the taxpayer even more.!
Come on Guernsey Press dig a little deeper.
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Watch this space for unwanted offices in Frossard house to rent.
Will we have a 2 weeks closure at Frossard House if each member of staff inputs their annual leave at the same time of year?
I believe the reduction of 30 staff was due to retirement and staff transferring into the private sector.
To reduce staff to a lower grade drops in stages between 1-3 yrs.Ideal for somebody coming up to retirement.
Redundancy payments 1 months pay for each year served
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