Comments on: Not enough staff to reopen closed wards

Comments on: Not enough staff to reopen closed wards http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/ Guernsey News, Sport, Community & Lifestyle Sun, 19 May 2013 07:13:51 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jeff http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-224213 Jeff Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:14:08 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-224213 Interesting how the 'get rid of Hunter Adam' brigade have gone quiet - sound like the same tune being played in HSSD to me! The only way I can effectively see this department organised properly is for Deputy Storey, the rest of the board and the top Civil Servants at HSSD to get up from their desks and spend a few months on the 'shop floor' and see what things are really like and what needs and surpluses are. Nursie's post above is spot-on; the unbelievable wastage that goes on just in buying basic disposables is unreal. A very good friend of mine used to be involved in an engineering position at the hospital and he said the unbelievable waste he saw when buying parts (i.e. not shopping around or using sheer buying power to get discounts) as well as what was purchased, would make anyone angry. The amount of computer equipment that is simply dumped without repairing (i.e. faulty hard drive and the whole laptop is binned) beggars belief. When it comes to spending tax payers money, the public does have a right to get annoyed at these things as The States are custodians of our cash and should be spending it wisely. I think all this shouldn't be seen as a criticism of the great job the staff do but the blame has to sit squarely with upper management and finance directors as ultimately it is their job to ensure the tax payer is getting good value for money. Interesting how the ‘get rid of Hunter Adam’ brigade have gone quiet – sound like the same tune being played in HSSD to me!

The only way I can effectively see this department organised properly is for Deputy Storey, the rest of the board and the top Civil Servants at HSSD to get up from their desks and spend a few months on the ‘shop floor’ and see what things are really like and what needs and surpluses are.

Nursie’s post above is spot-on; the unbelievable wastage that goes on just in buying basic disposables is unreal.

A very good friend of mine used to be involved in an engineering position at the hospital and he said the unbelievable waste he saw when buying parts (i.e. not shopping around or using sheer buying power to get discounts) as well as what was purchased, would make anyone angry.

The amount of computer equipment that is simply dumped without repairing (i.e. faulty hard drive and the whole laptop is binned) beggars belief.

When it comes to spending tax payers money, the public does have a right to get annoyed at these things as The States are custodians of our cash and should be spending it wisely.

I think all this shouldn’t be seen as a criticism of the great job the staff do but the blame has to sit squarely with upper management and finance directors as ultimately it is their job to ensure the tax payer is getting good value for money.

]]> By: Paule (Guern in UK) http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223861 Paule (Guern in UK) Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:07:05 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223861 Peter Have to agree with you there, where i work it is often communication breakdown when thngs go wrong or mistakes are made, which are magnified in healthcare. When taking handover for a patient from recovery or A&E over the telephone, it is sometimes difficult to gather the information relevant due to the language barrier. These nurses are taken on by the NHS ( we could not function in our hospital without them)but unfortunately some, not all cannot deliver a good enough standard of english to communicate to other members of staff and moreso to the patients themselves. I am not saying all foreign nurses but some, but some will always be too many in the health care service. Some are fantastic who work alongside me and i trust and depend on them as well as british born colleages, so as not to be accused of xenophobia.All the same it is problem that is all to common at the NHS trust where i work and i imagine in most hospitals. Peter

Have to agree with you there, where i work it is often communication breakdown when thngs go wrong or mistakes are made, which are magnified in healthcare. When taking handover for a patient from recovery or A&E over the telephone, it is sometimes difficult to gather the information relevant due to the language barrier. These nurses are taken on by the NHS ( we could not function in our hospital without them)but unfortunately some, not all cannot deliver a good enough standard of english to communicate to other members of staff and moreso to the patients themselves.
I am not saying all foreign nurses but some, but some will always be too many in the health care service.
Some are fantastic who work alongside me and i trust and depend on them as well as british born colleages, so as not to be accused of xenophobia.All the same it is problem that is all to common at the NHS trust where i work and i imagine in most hospitals.

]]> By: GG http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223790 GG Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:37:52 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223790 Ed is right... one quick google of 'PB Falla Guernsey' after spotting the word on another forum brought several examples to light... May I remind you of the non firing canon in June... Ed is right… one quick google of ‘PB Falla Guernsey’ after spotting the word on another forum brought several examples to light… May I remind you of the non firing canon in June…

]]> By: Peter http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223648 Peter Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:36:33 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223648 Thank you for that correction. I will have to change my spell check software. A friendly local nurse and matron is worth more to a local born and bred Guernsey man when they wake up from an operation than some foreigner speaking butchered English. Thank you for that correction. I will have to change my spell check software.
A friendly local nurse and matron is worth more to a local born and bred Guernsey man when they wake up from an operation than some foreigner speaking butchered English.

]]> By: No More Waffle http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223529 No More Waffle Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:27:21 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223529 Watcher, I too listened with interest and increasing anger. I was particularly enamoured of Deputy Storey's ill conceived notions of why the nurses on De Sausmarez had morale issues. He reckoned it was because they were not all au fait with the new computer system. What? NO MATE its because people like you who have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about presume to try and pull the wool over people's eyes. You are as transparent as you are ill informed. I would love you to spend a day on a busy ward and, having put your calculator down for two seconds, done a bit of hard labour with the caring profession. He then went and suggested that if you have private insurance you will get treated exactly the same as us plebs who don't have gold fenced plans, give us a break mate! As for the no problem of dirty surgery beds versus clean surgery beds issue, which Deputy Storey managed to fudge his way through - puerile waffle once again Mr Storey. Try and get your facts right. Watcher, I too listened with interest and increasing anger. I was particularly enamoured of Deputy Storey’s ill conceived notions of why the nurses on De Sausmarez had morale issues. He reckoned it was because they were not all au fait with the new computer system. What? NO MATE its because people like you who have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about presume to try and pull the wool over people’s eyes. You are as transparent as you are ill informed. I would love you to spend a day on a busy ward and, having put your calculator down for two seconds, done a bit of hard labour with the caring profession.

He then went and suggested that if you have private insurance you will get treated exactly the same as us plebs who don’t have gold fenced plans, give us a break mate!

As for the no problem of dirty surgery beds versus clean surgery beds issue, which Deputy Storey managed to fudge his way through – puerile waffle once again Mr Storey. Try and get your facts right.

]]> By: Phil http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223518 Phil Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:07:23 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223518 I would also visit - I am a dyslexic carnivore. I would also visit – I am a dyslexic carnivore.

]]> By: Ted http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223496 Ted Mon, 07 Jan 2013 13:00:18 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223496 I would definitely visit the stake park. I've always had an interest in lumps of wood sharpened at one end. I will not try to compete with either PBF or Ed in the use of clichés. I would definitely visit the stake park. I’ve always had an interest in lumps of wood sharpened at one end.

I will not try to compete with either PBF or Ed in the use of clichés.

]]> By: Watcher http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223417 Watcher Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:12:45 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223417 On the Sunday "moan-in" Deputy Storey, quite obviously out of his comfort zone and nervous in the spotlight, was put on the rack by the presenter and revealed that HSSD was engaging in a significant recruitment campaign and would be attending some big event in the UK in March. March ? We are in the first week of January, March is some eight weeks away; why are HSSD not pulling out all the stops to recruit staff members who can facilitate the re-opening of the wards? Assuming they do get some interest in March it would be months before the selected staff could actually take up the posts. I am reliably informed that existing staff have been told, no, ordered, not to speak to the media and I guess that explains the lack of informed public input on Sunday morning. Why are the staff being gagged? What are HSSD so afraid of? The new Board, despite Deputy Dorey's fine words on his election, seem totally powerless to either sort out the problems or to take back control of the organisation. It will all come out eventually and I for one hope the Press will dig deeper to get at the truth, despite the drawbridge being raised and barriers being so swiftly erected by HSSD. On the Sunday “moan-in” Deputy Storey, quite obviously out of his comfort zone and nervous in the spotlight, was put on the rack by the presenter and revealed that HSSD was engaging in a significant recruitment campaign and would be attending some big event in the UK in March. March ? We are in the first week of January, March is some eight weeks away; why are HSSD not pulling out all the stops to recruit staff members who can facilitate the re-opening of the wards? Assuming they do get some interest in March it would be months before the selected staff could actually take up the posts. I am reliably informed that existing staff have been told, no, ordered, not to speak to the media and I guess that explains the lack of informed public input on Sunday morning. Why are the staff being gagged? What are HSSD so afraid of? The new Board, despite Deputy Dorey’s fine words on his election, seem totally powerless to either sort out the problems or to take back control of the organisation. It will all come out eventually and I for one hope the Press will dig deeper to get at the truth, despite the drawbridge being raised and barriers being so swiftly erected by HSSD.

]]> By: Jean Pierre http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223360 Jean Pierre Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:04:01 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223360 PB FALLA 1-0 Ed PB FALLA 1-0 Ed

]]> By: Paule ( Guern in UK) http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223333 Paule ( Guern in UK) Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:39:39 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223333 Peter How would employing more matrons help matters instead of auxillary nurses?, a hospital cannot run without auxillary staff, they are the heartbeat of the ward and much valued and we could not do without them. You know Auxillary not Axillary as you mention which relates to the armpit area. Peter

How would employing more matrons help matters instead of auxillary nurses?, a hospital cannot run without auxillary staff, they are the heartbeat of the ward and much valued and we could not do without them.
You know Auxillary not Axillary as you mention which relates to the armpit area.

]]> By: Paule ( Guern in UK) http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223330 Paule ( Guern in UK) Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:34:18 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223330 Craig Nurses do not wear dresses , it is nowhere near easy and yes you will be required to clean up vomit and faeces. You total and utter idiot, if you work on a hospital ward as i do, you will realise it is not a matter for derision. Craig

Nurses do not wear dresses , it is nowhere near easy and yes you will be required to clean up vomit and faeces.
You total and utter idiot, if you work on a hospital ward as i do, you will realise it is not a matter for derision.

]]> By: Ed http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223294 Ed Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:07:23 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223294 Are you sure ? I am almost 100% sure I've seen this phrase posted under your nom de plum on several occasions prior to this one. The use of the word 'gob' is suggestive of a coarse mouth. There is, therefore, no need for the negative connotation as it's a native trait of human nature to make inferences from existing material, the manner in which the individual makes the conclusions in notwithstanding. Are you sure ? I am almost 100% sure I’ve seen this phrase posted under your nom de plum on several occasions prior to this one.
The use of the word ‘gob’ is suggestive of a coarse mouth. There is, therefore, no need for the negative connotation as it’s a native trait of human nature to make inferences from existing material, the manner in which the individual makes the conclusions in notwithstanding.

]]> By: A.J. http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223274 A.J. Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:10:31 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223274 I know of an Agency Nurse who couldn't wait to be asked back time and time again,because of the fantastic salary she was paid.She was here so often she even signed up for membership in a local Gym. Why aren't we training local Nurses? Anyone know the answer? The laws of physics tells us if something is 'topheavy' at some time soon, it is bound to go ti..up. I know of an Agency Nurse who couldn’t wait to be asked back time and time again,because of the fantastic salary she was paid.She was here so often she even signed up for membership in a local Gym. Why aren’t we training local Nurses? Anyone know the answer? The laws of physics tells us if something is ‘topheavy’ at some time soon, it is bound to go ti..up.

]]> By: PB FALLA http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223246 PB FALLA Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:41:46 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223246 Get a grip Oh u probably do already Get a grip

Oh u probably do already

]]> By: PB FALLA http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/04/not-enough-staff-to-reopen-closed-wards/#comment-223245 PB FALLA Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:40:21 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=166355#comment-223245 Wrong on all fronts im afraid Ed i omly post under pb falla and my earier post is the FIRST TIME IVE USED THAT PHRASE Engage brain before opening GOB Cu Placere Wrong on all fronts im afraid Ed i omly post under pb falla and my earier post is the FIRST TIME IVE USED THAT PHRASE

Engage brain before opening GOB

Cu Placere

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