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		<title>By: Buttercup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buttercup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last! The truth is out. Front page - HSSD have lied to the public about the staffing problems at the PEH. This has been so badly managed......questions need to be asked about the management at the PEH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last! The truth is out. Front page &#8211; HSSD have lied to the public about the staffing problems at the PEH. This has been so badly managed&#8230;&#8230;questions need to be asked about the management at the PEH.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sarnia expat) Let&#039;s hope that History can repeat itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sarnia expat) Let&#8217;s hope that History can repeat itself.</p>
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		<title>By: sarnia expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarnia expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one goes into nursing without a modicum of sympathy, empathy and a huge sense of humour - especially black humour.  Nurses love humour..... which is why a hospice can be a really happy place to work, despite its grim overtones for example.  Where I think the girls get unhappy has little to do with their patients, and more to do with the disorganised &quot;Boards&quot; who understand little on what it is like to work on the coal face, and who are constantly told one thing, only for the complete opposite to be piped through to the media.  Honesty should be the watchword for HSSD 2013.

Interesting that you too left the &quot;sinking ship&quot;.  Wonder why that was and what made you come to that conclusion?

I know that when I trained as a nurse back in the 1980&#039;s, the PEH was THE place to be, but then we had good ward sisters, a good matron, good doctors and a good board of health to be proud of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one goes into nursing without a modicum of sympathy, empathy and a huge sense of humour &#8211; especially black humour.  Nurses love humour&#8230;.. which is why a hospice can be a really happy place to work, despite its grim overtones for example.  Where I think the girls get unhappy has little to do with their patients, and more to do with the disorganised &#8220;Boards&#8221; who understand little on what it is like to work on the coal face, and who are constantly told one thing, only for the complete opposite to be piped through to the media.  Honesty should be the watchword for HSSD 2013.</p>
<p>Interesting that you too left the &#8220;sinking ship&#8221;.  Wonder why that was and what made you come to that conclusion?</p>
<p>I know that when I trained as a nurse back in the 1980&#8242;s, the PEH was THE place to be, but then we had good ward sisters, a good matron, good doctors and a good board of health to be proud of.</p>
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		<title>By: Oilcan Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oilcan Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst not exactly keeping to the main theme of this thread, can I reassure the people of Guernsey that there are nurses who are happy in their jobs! Admittedly I do not work for HSSD, left that sinking ship a long time ago, but still working at the coal face .
Nursing is still a great job and one I have no regrets doing for the last 30 years.
Today at work I chatted with,laughed with ,cried with,  hugged and even gave one patient a kiss! Perhaps not very PC these days but a hug often goes a long way to make someone feel better.
The problems facing our Health Care are vast but the vast majority of patients are still happy and grateful for the care they receive from us worker ants on the shop floor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst not exactly keeping to the main theme of this thread, can I reassure the people of Guernsey that there are nurses who are happy in their jobs! Admittedly I do not work for HSSD, left that sinking ship a long time ago, but still working at the coal face .<br />
Nursing is still a great job and one I have no regrets doing for the last 30 years.<br />
Today at work I chatted with,laughed with ,cried with,  hugged and even gave one patient a kiss! Perhaps not very PC these days but a hug often goes a long way to make someone feel better.<br />
The problems facing our Health Care are vast but the vast majority of patients are still happy and grateful for the care they receive from us worker ants on the shop floor!</p>
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		<title>By: Island Wide Voting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Island Wide Voting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can,but I won&#039;t be voting at all next time if island wide voting is stifled again</description>
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		<title>By: Taff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience is that a well-run organisation decides how best to operate, defines the processes, and trains the staff as necessary. There should be no UK way, or Guernsey way, but the &quot;best way&quot; for that particular organisation. As defined by management.

Which reflects the job to be done and the skills of the staff available. It should be the basis of how that organisation is managed. Which appears noticeable by its absence in recent events. HSSD being a prime example. 

I have worked professionally in the UK, Spain, France, Holland, Germany, and the USA, and was often recruited to define better working standards and practices and train staff to use them. And the only real problems I encountered were those of language. 

My experience is that good staff react well to being taught to do things properly, and they often taught me things as well. The learning process is continuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience is that a well-run organisation decides how best to operate, defines the processes, and trains the staff as necessary. There should be no UK way, or Guernsey way, but the &#8220;best way&#8221; for that particular organisation. As defined by management.</p>
<p>Which reflects the job to be done and the skills of the staff available. It should be the basis of how that organisation is managed. Which appears noticeable by its absence in recent events. HSSD being a prime example. </p>
<p>I have worked professionally in the UK, Spain, France, Holland, Germany, and the USA, and was often recruited to define better working standards and practices and train staff to use them. And the only real problems I encountered were those of language. </p>
<p>My experience is that good staff react well to being taught to do things properly, and they often taught me things as well. The learning process is continuous.</p>
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		<title>By: Local Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Local Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our experience seems to back that up Dave.  When we had our baby a few years back some of the experienced midwives told us off the record they were annoyed by all the new fangled stuff imposed on them.  When it comes to so called best practice I&#039;d rather listen to a midwife with years of coal-face experience delivering babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our experience seems to back that up Dave.  When we had our baby a few years back some of the experienced midwives told us off the record they were annoyed by all the new fangled stuff imposed on them.  When it comes to so called best practice I&#8217;d rather listen to a midwife with years of coal-face experience delivering babies.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel 

One of the biggest issues was the “Agenda for Change” that was visited upon our local health service and staff. It changed at a stroke the pay scales of our nurses and auxiliaries many of the auxiliaries received a reduction in their pay and a change to bog standard NHS working conditions. This was a prime example of a piece of NHS practice cut a pasted into our Health service with little or no consultation with local staff and which led to lots of local people who had worked for the Board of Health, leaving after many years service.

One of the arguments used was that it was needed so there would be a smoother transition from staff recruited in the UK into our health system. The Banding system of nurses was well understood. It was complete and utter rot in my view, as many of our nurses were recruited from Scandinavia, The Philippines, Portugal, India and other places completely outside the NHS. It was just that the mangers who wanted it came from the NHS by and large.

We also have lots of posts now that we happily lived without for decades, from infection control specialist nurses to pain control nurses. We have them because we are told it is NHS best practice.

When l when I was in our Hospital back in the 90’s and before, infection control was monitored by Matrons and Ward sisters who patrolled the wards looking for potential sauces of infection and eradicating them as soon as the showed up. 

Well trained nurses looked after individual patient infection by regular changing of dressings and again close monitoring of wounds. Now of course I am not saying that does not happen today but we didn’t need a dedicated person dealing with it. 

The same with pain control. My pain control regime was dictated to the senior ward sister by my surgeon, who in turn made sure her nurses followed the regime to manage any pain I might experience but again we didn’t need a dedicated specialist to this task. 

All these dedicated positions are all very and they are great people of that I have no doubt, but they do cost a lot of money and it may be that is what happens in the NHS but it doesn’t mean with a much smaller health budget, that we have to mirror these practices here. 
I don’t recall not having them in the past, resulting in huge problems in the hospital and I have spoken to several nurses who worked there in those days and they agree. 

There are others but I will leave it there, if you want to know more talk to staff they will tell you of the dedicated NHS doctrine they are forced to follow on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel </p>
<p>One of the biggest issues was the “Agenda for Change” that was visited upon our local health service and staff. It changed at a stroke the pay scales of our nurses and auxiliaries many of the auxiliaries received a reduction in their pay and a change to bog standard NHS working conditions. This was a prime example of a piece of NHS practice cut a pasted into our Health service with little or no consultation with local staff and which led to lots of local people who had worked for the Board of Health, leaving after many years service.</p>
<p>One of the arguments used was that it was needed so there would be a smoother transition from staff recruited in the UK into our health system. The Banding system of nurses was well understood. It was complete and utter rot in my view, as many of our nurses were recruited from Scandinavia, The Philippines, Portugal, India and other places completely outside the NHS. It was just that the mangers who wanted it came from the NHS by and large.</p>
<p>We also have lots of posts now that we happily lived without for decades, from infection control specialist nurses to pain control nurses. We have them because we are told it is NHS best practice.</p>
<p>When l when I was in our Hospital back in the 90’s and before, infection control was monitored by Matrons and Ward sisters who patrolled the wards looking for potential sauces of infection and eradicating them as soon as the showed up. </p>
<p>Well trained nurses looked after individual patient infection by regular changing of dressings and again close monitoring of wounds. Now of course I am not saying that does not happen today but we didn’t need a dedicated person dealing with it. </p>
<p>The same with pain control. My pain control regime was dictated to the senior ward sister by my surgeon, who in turn made sure her nurses followed the regime to manage any pain I might experience but again we didn’t need a dedicated specialist to this task. </p>
<p>All these dedicated positions are all very and they are great people of that I have no doubt, but they do cost a lot of money and it may be that is what happens in the NHS but it doesn’t mean with a much smaller health budget, that we have to mirror these practices here.<br />
I don’t recall not having them in the past, resulting in huge problems in the hospital and I have spoken to several nurses who worked there in those days and they agree. </p>
<p>There are others but I will leave it there, if you want to know more talk to staff they will tell you of the dedicated NHS doctrine they are forced to follow on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: St Peter Port South</title>
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		<dc:creator>St Peter Port South</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do I. Not that I would, I&#039;d just like to be able to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do I. Not that I would, I&#8217;d just like to be able to.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(To Disgruntled). Try changing your surname to Smith, or Jones, that might work!allthough I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(To Disgruntled). Try changing your surname to Smith, or Jones, that might work!allthough I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: West</title>
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		<dc:creator>West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could vote for Dave Jones</description>
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		<title>By: Disgruntled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disgruntled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter is local.  She and her peers qualified in September, around 12 of them.  Jobs were not guaranteed and indeed proved to be very scarce. She is surrounded by non local staff who get the plum jobs.  You wonder why morale is low?  

Whilst writing, can someone please explain to me why De Sausmarez is constantly being described as a ward which has been closed because of staffing issues?  De Sausmarez had a full contingent of staff - it is the medical wards that have the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter is local.  She and her peers qualified in September, around 12 of them.  Jobs were not guaranteed and indeed proved to be very scarce. She is surrounded by non local staff who get the plum jobs.  You wonder why morale is low?  </p>
<p>Whilst writing, can someone please explain to me why De Sausmarez is constantly being described as a ward which has been closed because of staffing issues?  De Sausmarez had a full contingent of staff &#8211; it is the medical wards that have the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, can you please give a few examples of NHS practices which you think should be abolished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, can you please give a few examples of NHS practices which you think should be abolished?</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark B

I don&#039;t have any &quot;inside knowledge&quot; at all. All the information I glean is from talking to people and, re the pension scheme, from studying the scheme info which is all online and from my 30 years of running financial services businesses. There are lots of subjects that I know zilch about and so you won&#039;t see me commenting on those, unlike Spartacus who willingly exposes her ignorance, but on issues like management, tax and pensions I will put myself up alongside anybody locally (with one or two exceptions).</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t have any &#8220;inside knowledge&#8221; at all. All the information I glean is from talking to people and, re the pension scheme, from studying the scheme info which is all online and from my 30 years of running financial services businesses. There are lots of subjects that I know zilch about and so you won&#8217;t see me commenting on those, unlike Spartacus who willingly exposes her ignorance, but on issues like management, tax and pensions I will put myself up alongside anybody locally (with one or two exceptions).</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin 

Absolutely not! I&#039;m an owner of my own company, I work 80 hours a week and so I a, able to spend whatever time I like doing what I want (within reason).  I couldn&#039;t afford to waste 4 years or more of my peak earning years on politics, having invested 30 years of my life to get where I am now. In 10 years time my circumstances might be right, but I&#039;ve got zero interest in being part of a body of which I cannot directly exert control or make change, and I just know that I&#039;d never last 6 months at it.

Spartacus 

I have never sat on any States Committee of any sort. The closest I have got to that was sitting on a couple of informal working groups about 10 years ago.</description>
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<p>Absolutely not! I&#8217;m an owner of my own company, I work 80 hours a week and so I a, able to spend whatever time I like doing what I want (within reason).  I couldn&#8217;t afford to waste 4 years or more of my peak earning years on politics, having invested 30 years of my life to get where I am now. In 10 years time my circumstances might be right, but I&#8217;ve got zero interest in being part of a body of which I cannot directly exert control or make change, and I just know that I&#8217;d never last 6 months at it.</p>
<p>Spartacus </p>
<p>I have never sat on any States Committee of any sort. The closest I have got to that was sitting on a couple of informal working groups about 10 years ago.</p>
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