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Comments on: Cancer cure claim sparks heated debate at seminar http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/ Guernsey News, Sport, Community & Lifestyle Thu, 23 May 2013 20:56:55 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Koira http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-237891 Koira Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:48:18 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-237891 C'mon, why should they tell you this? Do you know how many potential patients would be put-off by telling you this? In case you haven't realised, although GcMAF might indeed work, Immuno Biotech is absolutely a 'for-profit' business, not a charity; and David Noakes is neither a philanthropist nor the Maria Theresa of Calcutta he paints himself as. He is in fact owner or director of 33 companies, from printers to publishers, from marine salvage to tug boats and from web-design to civil engineering. What any of this has to do with medicine or saving lives I don't know. So why the hell should he miss a chance to make a 'few' quid by not telling you the whole truth on what GcMAF can and can't do? As Trevor says, "David has never said GcMAF cures cancer." So what is all this fuss about then? It's time you all woke up. C’mon, why should they tell you this? Do you know how many potential patients would be put-off by telling you this?
In case you haven’t realised, although GcMAF might indeed work, Immuno Biotech is absolutely a ‘for-profit’ business, not a charity; and David Noakes is neither a philanthropist nor the Maria Theresa of Calcutta he paints himself as. He is in fact owner or director of 33 companies, from printers to publishers, from marine salvage to tug boats and from web-design to civil engineering. What any of this has to do with medicine or saving lives I don’t know. So why the hell should he miss a chance to make a ‘few’ quid by not telling you the whole truth on what GcMAF can and can’t do?
As Trevor says, “David has never said GcMAF cures cancer.”
So what is all this fuss about then? It’s time you all woke up.

]]> By: Felix Shmidel http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-237707 Felix Shmidel Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:27:35 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-237707 It is unfortunate that gcmaf.eu tells the story of GcMaf one-sidedly and not objectively. For example, I have read the story of the prostate cancer patient who found that the GcMaf had not cured his cancer (though he thinks it benefited him). Still his nagalase has dropped from high to healthy level. Why gcmaf.eu does not tell that the GcMaf may not cure the cancer, but nevertheless is beneficial, since it always reduces the activity of Nagalese? Patients still could buy it for that reason. It is unfortunate that gcmaf.eu tells the story of GcMaf one-sidedly and not objectively. For example, I have read the story of the prostate cancer patient who found that the GcMaf had not cured his cancer (though he thinks it benefited him). Still his nagalase has dropped from high to healthy level. Why gcmaf.eu does not tell that the GcMaf may not cure the cancer, but nevertheless is beneficial, since it always reduces the activity of Nagalese? Patients still could buy it for that reason.

]]> By: Alison http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-236961 Alison Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:58:59 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-236961 GcMAF has been discovered for many years. Thats yet another lie people make in the autism community. GcMAF has been discovered for many years. Thats yet another lie people make in the autism community.

]]> By: OccupyTauCeti http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-236659 OccupyTauCeti Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:03:19 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-236659 Thanks for posting this link, sounds interesting. What we need in Guernsey is a proper industrial park just for business startups, otherwise how are people supposed to start up when Housing and the IDC nuke them from orbit? Its impossible to even get them to approve change of use for a greenhouse, when there are hundreds standing idle that could be growing hemp for biofuel and other natural products. I ran into a similar problem with my chemistry research, even though it is not specifically prohibited. "change of use, blah blah".. have a few goodies here but dare not build anything useful in case the rent-a-cops come knocking. Thanks for posting this link, sounds interesting.

What we need in Guernsey is a proper industrial park just for business startups, otherwise how are people supposed to start up when Housing and the IDC nuke them from orbit?

Its impossible to even get them to approve change of use for a greenhouse, when there are hundreds standing idle that could be growing hemp for biofuel and other natural products.

I ran into a similar problem with my chemistry research, even though it is not specifically prohibited.
“change of use, blah blah”.. have a few goodies here but dare not build anything useful in case the rent-a-cops come knocking.

]]> By: koira http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-236579 koira Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:34:38 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-236579 Sorry. not seeing my post appear I just repeated it. Pls ignore if you see it again. Sorry. not seeing my post appear I just repeated it. Pls ignore if you see it again.

]]> By: koira http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-236574 koira Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:20:19 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-236574 Interesting to know that Immuno Biotech has organized the world's first ever GcMAF conference in Frankfurt on 20-21 April. Here is the link: http://gcmafconference.org/ Curious to read any articles in the press about it. Interesting to know that Immuno Biotech has organized the world’s first ever GcMAF conference in Frankfurt on 20-21 April. Here is the link: http://gcmafconference.org/
Curious to read any articles in the press about it.

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]]> By: rosie http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-236423 rosie Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:38:31 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-236423 Sadly, I suspect Guernsey will be too late by then to benefit from any positive outcome. I heard yesterday that they were in Dubai last week where apparently there was a great deal of interest shown in the concept. I can't imagine that Immuno Biotec will hang around to see if Guernsey will change it's mind to hold clinical trials if somewhere else offers to do so first. Sadly, I suspect Guernsey will be too late by then to benefit from any positive outcome. I heard yesterday that they were in Dubai last week where apparently there was a great deal of interest shown in the concept. I can’t imagine that Immuno Biotec will hang around to see if Guernsey will change it’s mind to hold clinical trials if somewhere else offers to do so first.

]]> By: koira koira http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-236369 koira koira Fri, 08 Feb 2013 23:56:04 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-236369 I hear Immuno Biotech will hold a convention on GcMAF in Frankfurt 20-21 April with illustrious speakers from Italy, Germany and USA. Let's wait for the outcome. Something new might come up. I hear Immuno Biotech will hold a convention on GcMAF in Frankfurt 20-21 April with illustrious speakers from Italy, Germany and USA. Let’s wait for the outcome. Something new might come up.

]]> By: Rosie http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-234833 Rosie Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:01:47 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-234833 So... excellent! It would appear that we are all in agreement. Clinical trials are needed to verify the benefits or not of gcMAF. That is also what Immuno Biotec want. Let’s hope that Guernsey’s innate conservatism does not prevent us from being the place to hold those trials. As far as I can see, the downsides in our holding the trials would be zero but the possible up-side could be considerable. So… excellent! It would appear that we are all in agreement. Clinical trials are needed to verify the benefits or not of gcMAF. That is also what Immuno Biotec want.

Let’s hope that Guernsey’s innate conservatism does not prevent us from being the place to hold those trials. As far as I can see, the downsides in our holding the trials would be zero but the possible up-side could be considerable.

]]> By: Trevor http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-234486 Trevor Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:58:30 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-234486 Hi Terry - you have voiced many opinions regarding alternative cancer therapies, an open debate is very healthy. However sometimes it is too easy to go on the attack without offering anything positive. Can you please tell us which cancer therapy you deem to be the most successful and why? I look forward to hearing from you. Hi Terry – you have voiced many opinions regarding alternative cancer therapies, an open debate is very healthy.

However sometimes it is too easy to go on the attack without offering anything positive.

Can you please tell us which cancer therapy you deem to be the most successful and why?

I look forward to hearing from you.

]]> By: Dot Comma http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-234360 Dot Comma Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:10:33 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-234360 Hmmmm, no apology from the GEP then. Read in to that what you will, and I'm sure you will!!! Hmmmm, no apology from the GEP then. Read in to that what you will, and I’m sure you will!!!

]]> By: dorothy http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-234238 dorothy Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:17:22 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-234238 I was at the talk and the press as usual reported an inaccurate version of the presentation. Well done Guernsey press. Perhaps your journalist should urgently apply for a job in the lower class national papers. I spoke to Mr Noakes after the talk. He wants clinical trails to happen. In Guernsey preferably but they are in progress in other countries. Hopefully the clinicians will publish their findings. The company releases its product to any research scientists interested in its mechanisms. Chemo therapy and radiotherapy probably started in a small lab somewhere. Give the guy a break. Get your press to report the facts. This was a scientific presentation. Your journalist failed to understand the very basic concepts. Yes it needs more clinical trials. Yes Mr Noakes asked for them. No he did not used the word "cured". I thought the word "recovery" was used. Yes his PA told me his lab is helping research scientists worldwide. The video he showed us showed something happening to the cells. Apparently they are working on the findings and will publish their findings. It is a small young company requesting help. Instead of all of the accusations, perhaps we as an island should offer a supporting hand instead of a knife in their back. Everyone needs to start somewhere. Let it be beautiful Guernsey I was at the talk and the press as usual reported an inaccurate version of the presentation. Well done Guernsey press. Perhaps your journalist should urgently apply for a job in the lower class national papers.
I spoke to Mr Noakes after the talk.
He wants clinical trails to happen. In Guernsey preferably but they are in progress in other countries. Hopefully the clinicians will publish their findings.
The company releases its product to any research scientists interested in its mechanisms.
Chemo therapy and radiotherapy probably started in a small lab somewhere. Give the guy a break. Get your press to report the facts. This was a scientific presentation. Your journalist failed to understand the very basic concepts.
Yes it needs more clinical trials.
Yes Mr Noakes asked for them.
No he did not used the word “cured”. I thought the word “recovery” was used.
Yes his PA told me his lab is helping research scientists worldwide.
The video he showed us showed something happening to the cells. Apparently they are working on the findings and will publish their findings.
It is a small young company requesting help. Instead of all of the accusations, perhaps we as an island should offer a supporting hand instead of a knife in their back. Everyone needs to start somewhere. Let it be beautiful Guernsey

]]> By: Lesley http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-234193 Lesley Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:08:08 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-234193 Hi Occupy, paranoid conspiracy junkie you are not, eyes wide open you are! Too many people think Coronation Street is true, and reality TV is their only form of education. We are now in a world where millions die from pharmaceuticals (drug related deaths are recorded as the 3rd leading cause of death in the US), yet natural remedies are on the verge of being banned, thanks to Codex Alimentarius (could this be because many, and more effective cures can be found in nature?) We have our cousins in America to thank for many of our food and drug laws, so the FDA's influence is extremely important to be aware of. The FDA started life as the Division of Chemistry, later changed to the Bureau of Chemistry and then, in 1913, to the FDA, to hide its chemical industry agenda. However, it continues to be run by, and for, the chemical industry, as show by the revolving door appointments between it and the industries, notably Monsanto (Michael Taylor, Margaret Miller, Suzanne Sechen etc). This is not a regulatory body to protect the consumers, this is a regulatory body to protect the chemical industry. And the UK (and Guernsey, it would appear) follow slavishly all its recommendations. Anyhow, we digress, but it is important to be aware that all is not what it seems. The title conspiracy theorist, to me, means someone who is not as gullible as the rest. Hi Occupy, paranoid conspiracy junkie you are not, eyes wide open you are! Too many people think Coronation Street is true, and reality TV is their only form of education.

We are now in a world where millions die from pharmaceuticals (drug related deaths are recorded as the 3rd leading cause of death in the US), yet natural remedies are on the verge of being banned, thanks to Codex Alimentarius (could this be because many, and more effective cures can be found in nature?)

We have our cousins in America to thank for many of our food and drug laws, so the FDA’s influence is extremely important to be aware of. The FDA started life as the Division of Chemistry, later changed to the Bureau of Chemistry and then, in 1913, to the FDA, to hide its chemical industry agenda. However, it continues to be run by, and for, the chemical industry, as show by the revolving door appointments between it and the industries, notably Monsanto (Michael Taylor, Margaret Miller, Suzanne Sechen etc). This is not a regulatory body to protect the consumers, this is a regulatory body to protect the chemical industry. And the UK (and Guernsey, it would appear) follow slavishly all its recommendations.

Anyhow, we digress, but it is important to be aware that all is not what it seems. The title conspiracy theorist, to me, means someone who is not as gullible as the rest.

]]> By: Lesley http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-234184 Lesley Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:46:08 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-234184 Hi Terry, the colon cancer patient who wrote the thread on your post is using a different product, a home made yoghurt kit called MAF 314. Obviously I have no connection to MAF 314, neither do I have any connection to Burzyinski, so can offer nothing but my opinion. I would prefer to stick with facts that I know can be verified, which is that each batch of First Immune GcMAF goes through many tests, costing an awful lot of money each time, to ensure that each and every vial of this product is active. I'm not sure a home made yoghurt is going to have the same quality control. Hi Terry, the colon cancer patient who wrote the thread on your post is using a different product, a home made yoghurt kit called MAF 314. Obviously I have no connection to MAF 314, neither do I have any connection to Burzyinski, so can offer nothing but my opinion. I would prefer to stick with facts that I know can be verified, which is that each batch of First Immune GcMAF goes through many tests, costing an awful lot of money each time, to ensure that each and every vial of this product is active. I’m not sure a home made yoghurt is going to have the same quality control.

]]> By: rosie http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/24/cancer-cure-claim-sparks-heated-debate-at-seminar/#comment-234083 rosie Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:40:51 +0000 http://www.thisisguernsey.com/?p=171029#comment-234083 Terry. So I am presuming that since you think that gcMAF is as yet unproven, you would like to see some trials being conducted to discover its efficacy or not? Am I also right then to think that you would welcome Guernsey conducting those trials...... which really is all that this is about. And if not, where do you think should trial it? Terry. So I am presuming that since you think that gcMAF is as yet unproven, you would like to see some trials being conducted to discover its efficacy or not? Am I also right then to think that you would welcome Guernsey conducting those trials…… which really is all that this is about. And if not, where do you think should trial it?

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