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		<title>By: ChrisM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I dislike Flybe for the many times I have been treated unfairly and over-charged, its a fact that air travel has become more expensive and also more frustrating because of all the crazy security etc.
I am sure many of us now try to choose other airlines and trip depending use the ferry where we can but sometimes there is no choice.

But we have to be careful what we wish for...

PS. I really like Blue Islands personally but they have no Gatwick flights so on many occasions I have no choice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I dislike Flybe for the many times I have been treated unfairly and over-charged, its a fact that air travel has become more expensive and also more frustrating because of all the crazy security etc.<br />
I am sure many of us now try to choose other airlines and trip depending use the ferry where we can but sometimes there is no choice.</p>
<p>But we have to be careful what we wish for&#8230;</p>
<p>PS. I really like Blue Islands personally but they have no Gatwick flights so on many occasions I have no choice!</p>
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		<title>By: WATM</title>
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		<dc:creator>WATM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a further comparison, I just checked the prices with Blue Islands, &amp; flights on the same dates &amp; times as those with FlyBe &amp; Aurigny are £126 return.  FlyBe gets my business on this occasion.  

One final note.  You would think the fact that Aurigny&#039;s flights used for the price comparison on the Southampton to Guernsey route are via Alderney (more fuel used, etc.) would explain the higher cost but no.  Direct flights are £268.....

There&#039;s no wonder Aurigny are haemorrhaging money when their two competitors are so much cheaper - and therefore probably attract more business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a further comparison, I just checked the prices with Blue Islands, &amp; flights on the same dates &amp; times as those with FlyBe &amp; Aurigny are £126 return.  FlyBe gets my business on this occasion.  </p>
<p>One final note.  You would think the fact that Aurigny&#8217;s flights used for the price comparison on the Southampton to Guernsey route are via Alderney (more fuel used, etc.) would explain the higher cost but no.  Direct flights are £268&#8230;..</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no wonder Aurigny are haemorrhaging money when their two competitors are so much cheaper &#8211; and therefore probably attract more business.</p>
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		<title>By: WATM</title>
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		<dc:creator>WATM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a fan of Fly(may)Be, but one reason for their sky high prices (no pun intended!) is the fact they have a monopoly on a lot of UK domestic routes.

I fly from Southampton to Newcastle about 3-4 times a year &amp; the prices have pretty much doubled in the last 18 months or so.  It can&#039;t be a complete coincidence that these increases have taken effect since Eastern Airways pulled out of the SOU-NCL route.....

However, looking at visiting Guernsey the second week of February, FlyBe&#039;s prices range from £85-£115 return (depending on the day &amp; time of travel).  Aurigny&#039;s prices for the same dates &amp; times are coming in at £206 MINIMUM.

I know which airline I will be using.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of Fly(may)Be, but one reason for their sky high prices (no pun intended!) is the fact they have a monopoly on a lot of UK domestic routes.</p>
<p>I fly from Southampton to Newcastle about 3-4 times a year &amp; the prices have pretty much doubled in the last 18 months or so.  It can&#8217;t be a complete coincidence that these increases have taken effect since Eastern Airways pulled out of the SOU-NCL route&#8230;..</p>
<p>However, looking at visiting Guernsey the second week of February, FlyBe&#8217;s prices range from £85-£115 return (depending on the day &amp; time of travel).  Aurigny&#8217;s prices for the same dates &amp; times are coming in at £206 MINIMUM.</p>
<p>I know which airline I will be using&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is a direct result of their dire service, which led the public away from them. I had to fly several times with them last year-3 or 4 times to Gatwick, spread quite evenly throughout the year. All of them didn&#039;t get off the ground until 1-2 hours after the scheduled time, with no reason given for the delays. Gutted I didn&#039;t learn my lesson the first time. Either they need a new fleet of planes that are more reliable, or they really are incompetent. 

Not only that, but their main competitor, Aurigny, is cheaper than them. I have to return from Manchester to Guernsey next month, so I checked the cheapest flight. The cheapest rate from aurigny was roughly £80, likewise flybe&#039;s cheapest rate was £120. For the flights I booked last year, I thought flybe was on the whole cheaper to book them, but turns out aurigny are cheaper and better now. 

Sorry to hear about the job losses though...not their fault the management of flybe clearly sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is a direct result of their dire service, which led the public away from them. I had to fly several times with them last year-3 or 4 times to Gatwick, spread quite evenly throughout the year. All of them didn&#8217;t get off the ground until 1-2 hours after the scheduled time, with no reason given for the delays. Gutted I didn&#8217;t learn my lesson the first time. Either they need a new fleet of planes that are more reliable, or they really are incompetent. </p>
<p>Not only that, but their main competitor, Aurigny, is cheaper than them. I have to return from Manchester to Guernsey next month, so I checked the cheapest flight. The cheapest rate from aurigny was roughly £80, likewise flybe&#8217;s cheapest rate was £120. For the flights I booked last year, I thought flybe was on the whole cheaper to book them, but turns out aurigny are cheaper and better now. </p>
<p>Sorry to hear about the job losses though&#8230;not their fault the management of flybe clearly sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Canuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol at &quot;the Jeff&#039;s&quot; made by bloney day :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol at &#8220;the Jeff&#8217;s&#8221; made by bloney day :)</p>
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		<title>By: jefferson_airport</title>
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		<dc:creator>jefferson_airport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, Jeff! After all these years....! *tearful Jeff sniff, sigh*

...does that make you my brother, my dad, or both...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, Jeff! After all these years&#8230;.! *tearful Jeff sniff, sigh*</p>
<p>&#8230;does that make you my brother, my dad, or both&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: son of Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>son of Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jefferson_airport

I think my mum knows your mum, they were courted by the Jeff twins from the vale. I think they ended up marrying the wrong ones but it was too late by the time they found out as they both were pregnant with twins - I think they named them Jeff, Jeff, Jeff and Jeff.</description>
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<p>I think my mum knows your mum, they were courted by the Jeff twins from the vale. I think they ended up marrying the wrong ones but it was too late by the time they found out as they both were pregnant with twins &#8211; I think they named them Jeff, Jeff, Jeff and Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: Martino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff off the lot of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff off the lot of you!</p>
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		<title>By: jefferson_airport</title>
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		<dc:creator>jefferson_airport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite agree, son of Jeff, just the other day I was saying to Jeff and Jeff, my neighbours, that all these other Jeffs coming in from other parts of the world is just confusing things.

I, my wife, Jeff, and two sons, Jeff and Jeff, have decided that sadly we are going to have to leave the island, just too many Jeffs, only problem is.......

there&#039;ll be no bloney planes to get us out of here, so I guess we&#039;ll be catching the ferry.

A la perchoine, 

Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite agree, son of Jeff, just the other day I was saying to Jeff and Jeff, my neighbours, that all these other Jeffs coming in from other parts of the world is just confusing things.</p>
<p>I, my wife, Jeff, and two sons, Jeff and Jeff, have decided that sadly we are going to have to leave the island, just too many Jeffs, only problem is&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>there&#8217;ll be no bloney planes to get us out of here, so I guess we&#8217;ll be catching the ferry.</p>
<p>A la perchoine, </p>
<p>Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: jerseynige</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerseynige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely 2 airlines operating at a loss on the same route isn&#039;t conducive to lower prices. At least, if prices by a single operator were not to come down substantially, that route would be more secure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely 2 airlines operating at a loss on the same route isn&#8217;t conducive to lower prices. At least, if prices by a single operator were not to come down substantially, that route would be more secure.</p>
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		<title>By: Son of jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Son of jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem is that there are just too many jeffs on the island.  

In the good old days before aviation spread its wings Guernsey had a few Jeffs in each parish and in fact they were well respected members of the community but as times changed more and more of them starting arriving by air on a daily basis and gradually  things got very confusing especially when they started  marrying young ladies from outside of their parish - for example my mother and father are called Jeff.

I didn&#039;t stand a chance and ended up at la mare de carteret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem is that there are just too many jeffs on the island.  </p>
<p>In the good old days before aviation spread its wings Guernsey had a few Jeffs in each parish and in fact they were well respected members of the community but as times changed more and more of them starting arriving by air on a daily basis and gradually  things got very confusing especially when they started  marrying young ladies from outside of their parish &#8211; for example my mother and father are called Jeff.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t stand a chance and ended up at la mare de carteret.</p>
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		<title>By: Chutters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need to safeguard inter-island routes?  They&#039;ll always be there, and competition will keep the prices down.  

The Gatwick slots need to be safeguarded as they could easily be given away to someone else.  That&#039;s why the states airline is running there and again competition keeps the prices down.  Also I don&#039;t want to lose Gatwick and have to fly past London to Stanstead to get to London.

As for UK routes (outside Gatwick, Manchester and Southampton), unfortunately there is not enough demand to run to each island separately.  That is why airlines will run a triangular service between islands.  If a passenger has to go via one of the islands then they can just wait on the plane.  With no transit facilities in either airport, I don&#039;t think any passengers will be too pleased at having to get their luggage, clear customs, re-check in and clear security just to get to their final destination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need to safeguard inter-island routes?  They&#8217;ll always be there, and competition will keep the prices down.  </p>
<p>The Gatwick slots need to be safeguarded as they could easily be given away to someone else.  That&#8217;s why the states airline is running there and again competition keeps the prices down.  Also I don&#8217;t want to lose Gatwick and have to fly past London to Stanstead to get to London.</p>
<p>As for UK routes (outside Gatwick, Manchester and Southampton), unfortunately there is not enough demand to run to each island separately.  That is why airlines will run a triangular service between islands.  If a passenger has to go via one of the islands then they can just wait on the plane.  With no transit facilities in either airport, I don&#8217;t think any passengers will be too pleased at having to get their luggage, clear customs, re-check in and clear security just to get to their final destination.</p>
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		<title>By: Hartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems extremely unlikely that they&#039;ll be laying off pilots (the core of the business), when they can probably afford to shed low-level office workers instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems extremely unlikely that they&#8217;ll be laying off pilots (the core of the business), when they can probably afford to shed low-level office workers instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nigel....the low cost model and in fact much of the airline industry sells cheap tickets early and as the flight gets more full, seats become more expense. The premise of this is that people booking late will often be booking because they have to travel and therefore will have to pay. 

I actually think flybe flights particularly the essentials are pretty good when booked in advance. Tip is to plan ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel&#8230;.the low cost model and in fact much of the airline industry sells cheap tickets early and as the flight gets more full, seats become more expense. The premise of this is that people booking late will often be booking because they have to travel and therefore will have to pay. </p>
<p>I actually think flybe flights particularly the essentials are pretty good when booked in advance. Tip is to plan ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Opinion....

FlyBE are going to reduce the number of existing routes and with it the number of smaller regional Dash 8 aircraft, and the staff to fly and service them and the routes which they operate on.

Ryanair will take over Aer Lingus, and will be forced to divest some of their routes and aircraft to another airline (probably FlyBE) as ordered by EU rules.

FlyBE then will be back at square one, BUT with larger, former Ryanair aircraft, operating to destinations which Ryanair can no longer operate.

These jets are Boeing 737 aircraft. They [FlyBE] have no interest in operating Embraer aircraft to the islands, so there is not a chance they will operate Boeings.

I anticipate FlyBE giving more threats to the Channel Island Governments, and eventually pulling out of being based in the islands altogether. 

And heres a thought.... FlyBE have already said they will operate aircraft on leases to other islands complete with crew. Hate to say it, but maybe this would suit Blue Islands or Aurigny?</description>
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<p>FlyBE are going to reduce the number of existing routes and with it the number of smaller regional Dash 8 aircraft, and the staff to fly and service them and the routes which they operate on.</p>
<p>Ryanair will take over Aer Lingus, and will be forced to divest some of their routes and aircraft to another airline (probably FlyBE) as ordered by EU rules.</p>
<p>FlyBE then will be back at square one, BUT with larger, former Ryanair aircraft, operating to destinations which Ryanair can no longer operate.</p>
<p>These jets are Boeing 737 aircraft. They [FlyBE] have no interest in operating Embraer aircraft to the islands, so there is not a chance they will operate Boeings.</p>
<p>I anticipate FlyBE giving more threats to the Channel Island Governments, and eventually pulling out of being based in the islands altogether. </p>
<p>And heres a thought&#8230;. FlyBE have already said they will operate aircraft on leases to other islands complete with crew. Hate to say it, but maybe this would suit Blue Islands or Aurigny?</p>
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