John T’s idea was a little bit better but we’re in the middle of a recession.

I’ve already said that I think an armoured vehicle is over the top. In fact I said that in the post just before your last one.

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Ill suggest that Guernsey needs a military spec armoured vehicle… I bet the response would be “ridiculous for our island”

So how is an air ambulance any more so? As for landing, this is just for arguing but how do they pick up patients from the sea? Now you will say “oh so we should use a helicopter for every minor incident” you mean like they use the tank for every minor incident?

As for the X5 not being armoured, my point is the standard X5 weighs 2.25 ton. Any vehicle over 2 ton is supposed to keep to 25mph. Why buy such a heavy motor just to cart personel around in? It has no more seats than the 3 searies saloons, so whats the benefit?

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They have one armoured vehicle, which I agree is pointless and a waste of money.

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An air ambulance would be ridiculous for our island. SH, CSR answered the points you raised about my post perfectly.

John T, would a helicopter still be able to fly in terrible conditions? It would be worth considering IF we weren’t in the middle of a recession.

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Air ambulances need somewhere to land once they’ve reached the area of the patient, so how many open spaces large enough and with no obstructions are there within walking distance of the Church Square? I would suggest none… so how long would it take a paramedic to reach a patient taken seriously ill in the High Street assuming that a heli could land on the North Beach… you do the maths, I would suggest that the patient would be past caring!

If an air evac is required to the UK, then there is an existing arrangement with Aurigny for that to happen. I also think that the heli operated by the Barclay brothers is also available if it was felt necessary to airlift from another island in the Bailiwick to Gy where the patient could be transferred to a more conventional ambulance.

You have a bee in your bonnet about the Police vehicles, fair enough, but please stick to that and don’t bring in irrelevant matters to try and justify your fragile argument.

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How delusional is an air ambulance compared to military spec amoured vehicles for GUERNSEY…..

An air ambulance would get to patients quicker on island and also take emergency cases off island and would get genuinly used every week and not just tken for a run out, unlike the slow, pointless, offroad, tanks.

If ever a theres an armed robbery in a muddy field, or some pirates invade Belle Greve, those toys might come in handy…

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Plus, the X5′s are no less safe than their smaller counterparts, its just that the legislation covering 2tonne+ vehicles was drafted when they were the exception rather than the rule.

The ‘vans’ are generally used for transporting ‘wrongdoers’ to the custody suite, so again you wouldn’t really want them having access to firearms.

Please see my response to your delusional aspirations for an air ambulance – post 28

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Like I said, if we are talking about a genuine need for the emergency services then a helicopter air ambulance is far more important.

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Just because the guns are in the vehicle doesn’t mean that they will be taken out for routine incidents. They will be deployed the same as before (mundane issues involving a potato peeler and angry wife/husband).

This mass hysteria is ridiculous they’re hardly carrying the guns on their person.

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These posts are about the Police vehicle not an ambulance!

Any way, do you have any idea how much a helicopter costs ? You must be delusional to think it is a) cheaper to buy, b) cheaper to operate or c) can access everywhere in the island (quicker than an ambulance or paramedic first line response vehicle) as it has to have somewhere to land!

For instance, where would one land to pick up a patient taken ill in the High Street? Also, compare the wages of a heli pilot to an ambulance driver.. who do you think commands a higher wage?

You really haven’t thought this though have you?

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If you have a serious accident you’d hope the ambulance gets there quickly they weigh over two tonnes. If your house caught fire you’d want a quick response. Fire engines must be well in excess of two tonnes, just with the water alone.

If someone genuinely attacked you, you’d want a quick response. If they drove at 25mph you’d be dead before they got there. Surely that would be pointless. It’s an emergency response vehicle.

There are loads of vehicles on our roads that weigh about the same. They’re involved in no more crashes than your average car. I’m not sure why you think they’re so dangerous.

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