Not sure they’d be ready for biogas in the outer reaches. They’ve only recently cottoned on to bottled gas according to my cousin

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Is it possible then to create a biogas site in a more secluded location in Guernsey ? Are there fields out in the parishes of Torteval or St Pierre DuBois that are not currently being used and are at a safe distance from human property ?

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It’s a nice idea. I just think the location you’ve chosen would be wrong. There are lots of fields. You’ve only chosen Oatlands because you don’t like their tent.

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I asked it before and shall again, how in the hell are we supposed to pay for this grand scheme?

We’ve got global recession, the shrinkage of the finance industry and god knows what else coming at us over the next ten years, with little more to assist us in developing plan b to the plan a, which has been finance finance and finance for the past 30 years, other than St Kev telling us we need to be innovative and enterprising, being a clear indication, imo, that despite access to various resources and the ability to bring in an expensive raft of imported experts to tell us which way us up, he has no plan b, so expects us to somehow pull one out of our collective *sses and one of the hugest projects that this islands seen in many a year, i.e.. the airport, being far from over, thus, we can safely assume, neither is the spending on the aforementioned….

and now this, a scheme, that I am sure, for those who presented it, looks mighty fine on paper, but which will cost squillions that we haven’t bl**dy well got.

There’s a lot of amazing things we could all do that would benefit us personally, the island, and nay, the planet, but most reasonable human beings appreciate that much of that activity takes large amounts of cash, and that the lack of it is therefore a bit of a sticking point…..

of course, we, unlike our establishment, don’t have access to a very substantial amount of everyone else’s money.

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What about biogas crops in the fields adjacent to Oatlands- forget about any kind of irrigation.

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Many people can’t live without these basic commodities that during the passage of time have become necessities.

I think your idea is daft with or without purified fish tank water. Why would we need to go to this effort for irrigation? It rains quite a lot on this island. If irrigation were truly necessary that can be set up in the field in which you have the crops.

As for asking a company to shut itself down for your idea. Daft. You clearly don’t like Oatlands very much.

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Put you proposals on HOLD.Look into other forms of natural energy closer to home.

Solar heating,wind power,tidal power,Electric vehicles,

What is needed is a rig outside as an emptying port for fuel to be discharged under all tidal conditions high/low tides.Tankers alongside rig emptying.

The biggest concern should be the safety of businesses surrounding the fuel depots at Bulwer Avenue

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We are not ( as far as I am aware) in the business of manufacturing cars, power cables and paint. It is up to the jurisdictions that do to decide how they generate their energy and the materials they use. I gather that Germany, who do make these things, have progressive plans to be 50% dependent on renewable energy by 2020 and 100% by 2050. The future is not in furthering our ability to continue using fossil fuels, which are only going to get more expensive, but in looking at how we can improve our self sufficiency in energy needs, thus also reducing our vulnerability to outside influences.

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Replacing an oil fired water & heating system with an air source heat pump and solar PV’s will reduce yearly energy costs by approx 80%. The average pay-back time is between 6 & 9 years.

Prior to doing any of that tho’ should be insulation, insulation and then some more insulation. By far the cheapest and most effective way to reduce energy bills.

I agree with all your suggestions.

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At least I acknowledged what I said was ludicrous, butbdon’t you think that the biogas idea (disregard using purified fish tank water) has some degree of rationality ? I change it from primitive to simple lifestyles as, that way, we can still have flushing toilets.

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Re: your Oatlands comments. The most ludicrous, naive and weird comment I’ve ever read on TIG. Which says a lot.

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It is simply not possible to make cars, houses and most moder commodities without fossil fuels. Where do you think the electricity comes from? Where do you think the plastic around power cables comes from? Where do you think the paint in your house comes from? Short of living in cold huts, living off the land with stone tools, we do not have a technology to be fossil fuel free.

Most technologies (nuclear power stations, wind turbines, wave and tidal generator) require fossil fuels to be built (think plastic and paints as above).

Now, as a policy objective, to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels and explore alternatives is a very good idea, but eliminating entirely is not within our reach. Our ancestors managed, over 4000 years ago, but they didn’t exactly have iPhones and cars!

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